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Boyd

GT0007

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Personally, I thought Smith's performance in the Prelim against the Tigers was the reason we featured the following week...he was huge in that game!

I think he's been a great player and even though he was injured quite a bit you could tell how much better we were when he was on the field. Unfortunately I believe he will retire and not a good buy as he'll be 35yrs old next season
 

BennyV

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Would take Boyd, would barely even have to think about it. Would trade in 2 of Farrell, Beale, Quinlan and/or Mata'utia (in order of preference based on value for money) as well as Green and Kiti-Glymin for him. Does noone remember what he was capable of? The passes? That intercept try against the dogs? The ridiculous kamakazee kick returns?

He's been playing like a twat because he aint getting paid. Sure, hes an arrogant dick. But hes OUR arrogant dick. I loved that all other teams and their supporters hate him. I wont lose sleep if he doesnt come, but if he does I'd be pumped.
 

Saintsified

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@RugbyLeagueNews: Darius Boyd set to leave the Knights for Canterbury Bulldogs in 2015, Wayne Bennett has told Darius Boyd that he isn't needed at Dragons.
 

GT0007

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Would take Boyd, would barely even have to think about it. Would trade in 2 of Farrell, Beale, Quinlan and/or Mata'utia (in order of preference based on value for money) as well as Green and Kiti-Glymin for him. Does noone remember what he was capable of? The passes? That intercept try against the dogs? The ridiculous kamakazee kick returns?

He's been playing like a twat because he aint getting paid. Sure, hes an arrogant dick. But hes OUR arrogant dick. I loved that all other teams and their supporters hate him. I wont lose sleep if he doesnt come, but if he does I'd be pumped.

If he comes pumped I'd be pumped but I remember very well how he switched off and let us down once he signed with the knights. He has been pretty average for the Knights as well. I think he's a great player at his best but I don't think the Dragons should cater for him and have to worry bout stepping on his ego. What happens if he is not performing again will Wayne replace him???? Will Wayne make the big decision and put him on the wing or drop him to NSW Cup? There's no way in hell he is worth $600k based on some of our roster earning much less. On paper we would look unbeatable in the backs but do we need to spend the extra money for minor improvement based on mood? As always I play devils advocate as someone has to. IMO he will rise to the ocassion but for how long?
 

pinkmoon

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I'm a fan of your work pinkmoon but I can't agree on this. Darius is a legend.
And his anti-media stance has become part of his "brand" if you like now, it's his character. He's the gruff, anti-establishment recluse. Like JD Salinger.

A Holden Caulfield of sorts? :D
 

BennyV

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If he comes pumped I'd be pumped but I remember very well how he switched off and let us down once he signed with the knights. He has been pretty average for the Knights as well. I think he's a great player at his best but I don't think the Dragons should cater for him and have to worry bout stepping on his ego. What happens if he is not performing again will Wayne replace him???? Will Wayne make the big decision and put him on the wing or drop him to NSW Cup? There's no way in hell he is worth $600k based on some of our roster earning much less. On paper we would look unbeatable in the backs but do we need to spend the extra money for minor improvement based on mood? As always I play devils advocate as someone has to. IMO he will rise to the ocassion but for how long?

Poor this year, but last year was playing well. There are a lot of plyers who go through drops in form for various reasons, not being paid is a very legitimate one.

Ohhh, what, hes going to Bulldogs?
f**k him, hes shit anyway...we dont need him, and I hate the way hes so blunt with the media :sarcasm:
 

GT0007

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Poor this year, but last year was playing well. There are a lot of plyers who go through drops in form for various reasons, not being paid is a very legitimate one.

Ohhh, what, hes going to Bulldogs?
f**k him, hes shit anyway...we dont need him, and I hate the way hes so blunt with the media :sarcasm:

He was crap the 1st year with the Knights as well. If you agree he gave his money's worth last year which a few Knight's people may disagree that he did the whole year he still owes them 1.2 mil for the other 2 seasons. I'm with you bout not getting paid complicates things but that was the last 10 weeks? I dont think any athlete should even play when there is no payment but the Knights fans have been disgruntled way before that. He would be great for us but not at $600k. Seriously do u think he's worth that?
 

BennyV

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Dont kmow what hes worth, but I doubt we'd pay him that anyway. Just because thats what he's on at the Knighys doesnt mean its whay hed be on here.
 

Minh

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I think Bulldogs would easily pay him that 600k, it's not really that much for dare I say it a marquee fullback. They won't have a problem fitting him in under the cap if you know what I mean...
 

TheRev

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Realistically youd have to pay him 450-600k, I mean hes not just a winger, hes a fullback.. with plenty of international/origin experience.

Newcastle fans cant wait to see him gone, doesnt seem to show a lot of ticker.. but as we have seen for the Red V, at his best he is devastating, but hes mostly not at his best too..

For QLD he always surprises me that he scores so many tries, I mean hes just feeding off ball from GI/JT/Slater so its not like he does a lot, but he does still to finish very well.. but that role is 100% different to what he needs to do at the Dragons.

Anyway far from my first choice, but if anyone can keep him switched on its Bennett, and definitely a big step up from our current fullback options.
 

jenninga

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Would take Boyd, would barely even have to think about it. Would trade in 2 of Farrell, Beale, Quinlan and/or Mata'utia (in order of preference based on value for money) as well as Green and Kiti-Glymin for him. Does noone remember what he was capable of? The passes? That intercept try against the dogs? The ridiculous kamakazee kick returns?

He's been playing like a twat because he aint getting paid. Sure, hes an arrogant dick. But hes OUR arrogant dick. I loved that all other teams and their supporters hate him. I wont lose sleep if he doesnt come, but if he does I'd be pumped.

I wouldn't like him back for this reason.If he wasn't getting paid he should have stood down and not taken the field,strike if you like.What about the fans who pay there money ,travel miles ,why sulk and let them and his teammates down.
I would be ropeable if he did that with us,we have a squad with good spirit and don't need a selfish pr*ck to unsettle the squad.Rather the money spent on forwards,MONGREL.
 

hazzbeen

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Did I hear Boyd and Nightingale had a swipe at each other before the sook left....If it is going to upset Nighty and players I dont want Boyd back........
 

TheRev

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Did I hear Boyd and Nightingale had a swipe at each other before the sook left....If it is going to upset Nighty and players I dont want Boyd back........
Oh id forgotten about that <alleged> incident.. might be a good enough reason right there.
 

bottle

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On Boyd not getting paid. True, in part, I believe.
Scuttlebutt suggests not getting his 3rd party money worth about $200K. It's a heap of dosh. It also means he IS getting about $400K balance from the club. Still not too foul an earn.
Would you be pissed off? Of course, I know I would.
But does that justify punishing the club and fans by not putting in for your $400K?
I don't think so. You do your duty and let your lawyers and manager do their job re the remainder.
Not saying it wouldn't affect your mind set and hence potentially form. But turning up your toes and sooking is another thing altogether.
Gaz moved on when he was shafted for his 3rd party money, but he never dogged it whilst he was with us. That's the difference in the nature of the men I suppose.
 

BennyV

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On Boyd not getting paid. True, in part, I believe.
Scuttlebutt suggests not getting his 3rd party money worth about $200K. It's a heap of dosh. It also means he IS getting about $400K balance from the club. Still not too foul an earn.
Would you be pissed off? Of course, I know I would.
But does that justify punishing the club and fans by not putting in for your $400K?
I don't think so. You do your duty and let your lawyers and manager do their job re the remainder.
Not saying it wouldn't affect your mind set and hence potentially form. But turning up your toes and sooking is another thing altogether.
Gaz moved on when he was shafted for his 3rd party money, but he never dogged it whilst he was with us. That's the difference in the nature of the men I suppose.

Im lead to believe there was a lot more than just the money involved with Gaz's move...
 

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