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Brad Fittler is overrated

Broncodroid

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dodge said:
Broncodroid said:
[furrycat said:
]All he does is kick and throw passes. One hit wonder if you ask me.



Note: This is a send-up of the Gooster's thread about how Sonny Bill is overrated, I'm just using the same reasons.

Yet you find it necessary to lower yourself to his standard :roll: Whilst I see your point, I say 'why bother ?'.

Ladies and gentlemen...

The moral example of perfection, Broncodroid


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Somone has a problem with me for the fact you label me a "toss" for sharing my opinion (another thread which had a point) though cannot handle a rebuttle in which I sadly inform you I have no time for you opinion...returning serve some might argue.

Thanks for the compliment ;-)

p.s. I would like to think this trivial BS will not have to happen in every thread which would detract from a good debate...PM myself or move on ;-)
 

sydraider

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wally lewis played in what NSW percieved in a "weaker" QLD comp and was able to kick NSWs A$$ES yr after yr. Even when Wally came into the NSWRL comp in 1988 the QLD team still won 1988/9 3-0 and won 1991 2-1

Wally is the King and is an immortal.

Thats why he lost most of the games he had to face BRETT KENNY in :lol: :lol:

.....Brett didnt even have a kicking game :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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I prefer Laurie Daley as a 5/8 ahead of Fittler, I also prefer Brad Clyde as a lock ahead of him. Going back, I preferred Steve renouf and Meninga as a centre pairing than Fittler and anyone...

but as an all round player who could carry a side on his back and control a game, he in a rare class
 

Chippo Raiders

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GoTheBears said:
Fittler was awesome.
Lewis from all report was great and really lifted for Origin. However he couldnt hack the week in week out footy in the NSWRL and had a poor attitude as well(which saw him leave Brisbane).
Fittler was better than Daley and Lyons. Fulton n Lewis i can't properly comment on, just know that my dad thinks Freddy was better than Lewis and my dad hates Fulton to much to say if he was good or not. Fittler is the best player i've seen play the game and one of my favourites.

Fulton ****s over Fittler, Daley was a smarter player running on old knees, which is unfortunate.

Daley is the best 5/8 I have witnessed over a Career, Brett Kenny was awesome with the ball in his hands, Fittler is good but isn't BETTER than these players, Bert often beat Wally 1 on 1 in origin which is something of a huge accolade, Fittler can be mentioned along side Daley and Kenny, beneath Fulton and Wally but not above. Though I suppose others see him as immortal, not me. Very good, not immortal.
 

melon....

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You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.
 

Chippo Raiders

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melon.... said:
You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.

Kite yes, the rest no, Kennedy has been injured moron and when he was fit he rivalled Tallis as the games no.1 second-rower, Johns....totally over Fittler, attitude might be a downside but playing ability he wins by a mile.

Lockyer does more in a game than Fittler, OMG Darren Lockyer is at least AS good as Fittler with up to 5-6 seasons to go. Gower is fast becoming Penriths favourite son, which is something where Brad Fittler would be in the top 10 no doubt. Good player, great player, Darren Lockyer, Andrew Johns better, Gower following them after the last two seasons.
 

Mr Saab

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melon.... said:
You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.

Lockyer over rated? yeah sure :roll:
you are a deadset f'n rockmelon.
Go and watch the 3 test matches vs the poms 2003 and then come back and see if he is over rated. If Lockyer doesnt play those 3 games Australia lose all 3 tests...thats how much he put into those games.
I wont even get started on A Johns.
 

Tommy Smith

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Charlie Saab said:
melon.... said:
You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.

Lockyer over rated? yeah sure :roll:
you are a deadset f'n rockmelon.
Go and watch the 3 test matches vs the poms 2003 and then come back and see if he is over rated. If Lockyer doesnt play those 3 games Australia lose all 3 tests...thats how much he put into those games.
I wont even get started on A Johns.
How good must kimmorley have been then since he won player fo the series :shock:

Some of you people are amazing. Lockyer does more in a game than Fittler? How so? First of all, he should be doing more in a game when considering their respective ages. But despite that consider this, as ive pointed out so many times, Freddy led the league in try assists, tries, line breaks and line break assists COMBINED over the 2002-2004 peiod. This is despite the fact that he was in the latter years of his career. So how does Lockyer do more in a game? What a f**ken stupid statement made even more stupid by the fact you didnt even back it up. Oh btw Freddy also had either the most or second most kicking metres over that time and had BY FAR the best defesnive ten metre zone. Add to that he was the best captain in the game, just tell me how Lockyer does more in a game?

Chippo Raider you seem to be one fo the many Raiders fans who is insecure at the thought that Freddy is better than daley. Bob Fulton said Freddy was the best player he had coached, ahead of Daely, Clyde etc. So maybe that counts for something. if you think daley is better, then good for you but there's no need to try and discredit Freddy at every opportunity because you're terrified at the thought of Fittler being remembered as the better player.

You see the pathetic thing is, is that when someone says Freddy is overrated plenty people join in and say "yeah i agree" and its purely because he plays for or the Roosters. Only god knows how you lot would have rated him if he played for your side. But as soon as someone says "Lockyer and Johns are overrated" you are quick to defend them almsot as if you're rooting them.

If GotheBears wants to say Freddy's the best player he has seen then good on him. It's debatable just as it would be if someone said Lockyer or Johns were the best they'd seen. However the question is why do you sad bastards have to rubbish that opinion (that Freddy si the best) by dribbling sh!t and saying "Lockyer this, Johns that". It's called an opinion and everyone has one so just accept it fuqwits. God knows you do when someone says Johns/Daley/Lockyer are then best.
 

Tommy Smith

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Oh and before one of the "anti-Freddy brigade" reply (im probably already too late) i want to point out that Johns, Lockyer and Daley are magnificent players. Certainly three of the greatest i've had the PLEASURE of watching. And regardless of how i rate Fittler besides these great players, one thing i certainly will never do is discredit them. Some of you should do the same. Just ebcause you think so and so is better than Freddy why the bloody hell does that mean you have to discredit him. Someone who's been playing for nearly longer than some of you have lived i bet. Just give him his dues as i do with Daley and co.
 

Mr Saab

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Tommy Smith said:
Oh and before one of the "anti-Freddy brigade" reply (im probably already too late) i want to point out that Johns, Lockyer and Daley are magnificent players. Certainly three of the greatest i've had the PLEASURE of watching. And regardless of how i rate Fittler besides these great players, one thing i certainly will never do is discredit them. Some of you should do the same. Just ebcause you think so and so is better than Freddy why the bloody hell does that mean you have to discredit him. Someone who's been playing for nearly longer than some of you have lived i bet. Just give him his dues as i do with Daley and co.

at least those "captains" turn up to captains functions :D
 

Corbin

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again and again all it is, is a Roosters Thread 'bashing' honestly it is so lame? the hole season 3/4 of the forum was just full of bagging the Roosters out?
is this wat the Rugby League is all about?! how about just crediting players for their efforts and achievements? not looking at the negatives as much (hard to do i guess but still).
 

Mr Saab

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again and again all it is, is a Roosters Thread 'bashing' honestly it is so lame? the hole season 3/4 of the forum was just full of bagging the Roosters out?
is this wat the Rugby League is all about?! how about just crediting players for their efforts and achievements? not looking at the negatives as much (hard to do i guess but still).

probably has to do with Sticky and Gus.
Also the fact that they go on and on about how good their "juniors" are, yet they go out and buy Roberts, Monaghan and Firman. Sure, the chooks lost Cusack, Hegarty, and Fittler, but surely some of those players could have been replaced with some of the "great" juniors.
Add to that the chooks have some guy called Finch who is a fricken baby.
 

Corbin

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finch.... common give him a break... wat eva any1 thinks he was the half back of the year... common he has inproved dramatically from comming from the canberra the roosters have brought him a long way, yeh i agree they have some really good juniors... but u cant 'blood' to many juniors at one time..... just bringing them all into the team gradually would be good and i hope to see one or two players from the juniors start to stand up and play in first grade.
 

Mr Saab

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gower missed many weeks yet almost beat him for Dally M points!

Ok he has improved (at least he isnt crying when he makes a mistake!!) his body language and play somewhat, but that still doesnt change the fact that he is extremely disliked. When the big games were on he virtually went missing. He said it himself he went missing in the GF and had a poor game. Compared to Ricky Stuart or Alan Langer Finch wont
 

Chippo Raiders

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Tommy Smith said:
Oh and before one of the "anti-Freddy brigade" reply (im probably already too late) i want to point out that Johns, Lockyer and Daley are magnificent players. Certainly three of the greatest i've had the PLEASURE of watching. And regardless of how i rate Fittler besides these great players, one thing i certainly will never do is discredit them. Some of you should do the same. Just ebcause you think so and so is better than Freddy why the bloody hell does that mean you have to discredit him. Someone who's been playing for nearly longer than some of you have lived i bet. Just give him his dues as i do with Daley and co.

Tell me where I said Fittler was overrated. Never had, in fact I am more likely to defend someone saying he isn't. I always had the conception he was a burnt out player in the late 90's and prior to 2002, he would be hidden in games. The Roosters premiership coincided with Brad Fittlers retirement from rep Footy, that was the reason you became so "dominant" because he wasn't burnt out after origin. Now whether you agree or not is up to you.

And Fittlers GF performance was championship material, the best Rooster out there along with Peter Cusack. He was VERY dominant in the first half and did things at a very upbeat pace, it would rank as a top 5 club performance he has played. I rated Daley over Fittler because he handled week to week footy better and played a brand of football more suitable to pressure games, Bob Fulton said he was the best player to coach not the most skillful player he has seen, there is a difference, and for a time in the SL war Laurie Daley was snubbed and therefore could have been a factor. I DID NOT say overrated at all , you are showing a lack of actually reading the posts I make, I just thought Lockyer and Johns in Particular have done things as a whole that other players couldn't do

Johns for example has anyone you know of been able to Banana kick AND kick goals at 80% AND tackle with such venom AND captain Australia AND Dominate SOO "not as much as Wally but as much as any wearing blue"

Lockyer has an array too including Goalkicking play organisation, his hands must have done more work in attack than any other player in the comp 2004, he had players however who fell into the habit of expecting him to do things.
 

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No matter what we all think of him as far as playing abilities go he is a champion and from what is said he's a decent bloke to. as far as big games go i think he did go missing once to often but he did bring out the best of his fellow players. It's not so much the fact of been overated its just he is talked about to much simarlar to johns, lockyer etc. Ther all great players and deseve the accolades but were humans and tire of hearing mutilple story's of the same things. but he's gone now so let him retire as the champ he is. btw i am a knight fan so im not been biased.
 

JJ

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Generalissimo Stalin said:
Charlie Saab said:
Generalissimo Stalin said:
400 odd first class games - 15 years of first grade - suppose you must think steve waugh was overated too

steve waugh as a cricketer was alot better than Fittler the league player.
Fittler wasnt over rated, but i was never a fan of his and would put these 5/8s in my team before even thinking about Fittler :

Wally Lewis
Brett Kenny
L Daley
Cliff Lyons
Bob Fulton

wally lewis could star in origin as he never played in a tough comp week in week out for a start

stupid - teh Brisbane comp was very tough.

Lewis was a freak - the greatest 5/8 ever...

No way would I have Lyons ahead of Fittler though - that's a joke
 

greentooth

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Chippo Raiders said:
Tommy Smith said:
Oh and before one of the "anti-Freddy brigade" reply (im probably already too late) i want to point out that Johns, Lockyer and Daley are magnificent players. Certainly three of the greatest i've had the PLEASURE of watching. And regardless of how i rate Fittler besides these great players, one thing i certainly will never do is discredit them. Some of you should do the same. Just ebcause you think so and so is better than Freddy why the bloody hell does that mean you have to discredit him. Someone who's been playing for nearly longer than some of you have lived i bet. Just give him his dues as i do with Daley and co.

Tell me where I said Fittler was overrated. Never had, in fact I am more likely to defend someone saying he isn't. I always had the conception he was a burnt out player in the late 90's and prior to 2002, he would be hidden in games. The Roosters premiership coincided with Brad Fittlers retirement from rep Footy, that was the reason you became so "dominant" because he wasn't burnt out after origin. Now whether you agree or not is up to you.

And Fittlers GF performance was championship material, the best Rooster out there along with Peter Cusack. He was VERY dominant in the first half and did things at a very upbeat pace, it would rank as a top 5 club performance he has played. I rated Daley over Fittler because he handled week to week footy better and played a brand of football more suitable to pressure games, Bob Fulton said he was the best player to coach not the most skillful player he has seen, there is a difference, and for a time in the SL war Laurie Daley was snubbed and therefore could have been a factor. I DID NOT say overrated at all , you are showing a lack of actually reading the posts I make, I just thought Lockyer and Johns in Particular have done things as a whole that other players couldn't do

Johns for example has anyone you know of been able to Banana kick AND kick goals at 80% AND tackle with such venom AND captain Australia AND Dominate SOO "not as much as Wally but as much as any wearing blue"

Lockyer has an array too including Goalkicking play organisation, his hands must have done more work in attack than any other player in the comp 2004, he had players however who fell into the habit of expecting him to do things.

Goalkicking isn't a talent i would rate too highly when comparing players.
 
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