Charlie Saab said:Shifty said:Lyons performed as good as any 5/8 at club level, but fell away dramatically at rep level. Much the same as Gower does.
Fittler managed to be a dominant player at Origin and International level, not to the standard of Lewis, Kenny, Daley, etc., but for most of his career failed to deliver at club level. It wasn't until he gave away rep footy to 'concentrate' on club football that he managed to consistently dominate at that level.
The great 5/8's like Lewis, Kenny and Daley managed to consistently dominate in all areas of the game. Fittler was good, but he doesn't compare with the best of them.
i would agree with that. However there was a stage in Daleys career where the canberra folk said he played much better at NSW level than he did an club level. That stigma lasted a couple of yrs, but then died away.
Charlie Saab said:Shifty said:Lyons performed as good as any 5/8 at club level, but fell away dramatically at rep level. Much the same as Gower does.
Fittler managed to be a dominant player at Origin and International level, not to the standard of Lewis, Kenny, Daley, etc., but for most of his career failed to deliver at club level. It wasn't until he gave away rep footy to 'concentrate' on club football that he managed to consistently dominate at that level.
The great 5/8's like Lewis, Kenny and Daley managed to consistently dominate in all areas of the game. Fittler was good, but he doesn't compare with the best of them.
i would agree with that. However there was a stage in Daleys career where the canberra folk said he played much better at NSW level than he did an club level. That stigma lasted a couple of yrs, but then died away.
No it was proving a point with your roosters buddy who said SBW is over-rated and shit. Roosters bashing all the time? :lol: What about the thread after thread of Bulldog bashing led by yourself!again and again all it is, is a Roosters Thread 'bashing' honestly it is so lame? the hole season 3/4 of the forum was just full of bagging the Roosters out?
is this wat the Rugby League is all about?! how about just crediting players for their efforts and achievements? not looking at the negatives as much (hard to do i guess but still).
Red and Blue Knight said:Johns say's fittler is is the greatest player he's played against ;-)
I have you idiot. Lockyear is a fullback struggling at 5/8th. Like Gower is a hooker struggling to perform with the current rep halves combo in the 7. You are a dead set Wally. You know what won us thge Ashes series ? Craig Wings break 3 minutes before time in test 1 to put Lockyear under the posts, and one piece of smart play from lockyear in Test 3. Thats it. Lockyear is rated, but overly rated...which means he is a good player but not as good as some people make, and not the best in the world. You know why he misses 2,3,4,5 tackles per game? Because as a fullback he's only used to making 4 tackles per game. 5/8s need to defend strongly. Enter Carrol. The only reason this caveman is there is to get between the ball carrier, and Lockyear and make the tackle, before Lockyear misses it. Bennett's got problems, because Lockyear has told him he doesnt want to play fullback. How do I know? Bennett asked his after this year's semis, and Darren chucked a tanty. Suits me fine, because the Broncos will go no where without a decent halves combo. I say keep the over rated balding retread in the 6!!Charlie Saab said:melon.... said:You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.
Lockyer over rated? yeah sure :roll:
you are a deadset f'n rockmelon.
Go and watch the 3 test matches vs the poms 2003 and then come back and see if he is over rated. If Lockyer doesnt play those 3 games Australia lose all 3 tests...thats how much he put into those games.
I wont even get started on A Johns.
melon.... said:I have you idiot. Lockyear is a fullback struggling at 5/8th. Like Gower is a hooker struggling to perform with the current rep halves combo in the 7. You are a dead set Wally. You know what won us thge Ashes series ? Craig Wings break 3 minutes before time in test 1 to put Lockyear under the posts, and one piece of smart play from lockyear in Test 3. Thats it. Lockyear is rated, but overly rated...which means he is a good player but not as good as some people make, and not the best in the world. You know why he misses 2,3,4,5 tackles per game? Because as a fullback he's only used to making 4 tackles per game. 5/8s need to defend strongly. Enter Carrol. The only reason this caveman is there is to get between the ball carrier, and Lockyear and make the tackle, before Lockyear misses it. Bennett's got problems, because Lockyear has told him he doesnt want to play fullback. How do I know? Bennett asked his after this year's semis, and Darren chucked a tanty. Suits me fine, because the Broncos will go no where without a decent halves combo. I say keep the over rated balding retread in the 6!!Charlie Saab said:melon.... said:You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.
Lockyer over rated? yeah sure :roll:
you are a deadset f'n rockmelon.
Go and watch the 3 test matches vs the poms 2003 and then come back and see if he is over rated. If Lockyer doesnt play those 3 games Australia lose all 3 tests...thats how much he put into those games.
I wont even get started on A Johns.
As for Johns...HE SHOULD HAVE RETIRED 2 YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF SENDING HIS CLUB BROKE IN 2005!! Dick.
:lol:at fittlers retirement dinner johns stated on stage that fittler was the greatest he played against so maybe he changes his mind. next week it will be corey pearson
melon.... said:I have you idiot. Lockyear is a fullback struggling at 5/8th. Like Gower is a hooker struggling to perform with the current rep halves combo in the 7. You are a dead set Wally. You know what won us thge Ashes series ? Craig Wings break 3 minutes before time in test 1 to put Lockyear under the posts, and one piece of smart play from lockyear in Test 3. Thats it. Lockyear is rated, but overly rated...which means he is a good player but not as good as some people make, and not the best in the world. You know why he misses 2,3,4,5 tackles per game? Because as a fullback he's only used to making 4 tackles per game. 5/8s need to defend strongly. Enter Carrol. The only reason this caveman is there is to get between the ball carrier, and Lockyear and make the tackle, before Lockyear misses it. Bennett's got problems, because Lockyear has told him he doesnt want to play fullback. How do I know? Bennett asked his after this year's semis, and Darren chucked a tanty. Suits me fine, because the Broncos will go no where without a decent halves combo. I say keep the over rated balding retread in the 6!!Charlie Saab said:melon.... said:You wnat over rated? Lockyear, Johns, Kennedy, Kite, Gower...theres a handful, and these turkeys are STILL playing.
Lockyer over rated? yeah sure :roll:
you are a deadset f'n rockmelon.
Go and watch the 3 test matches vs the poms 2003 and then come back and see if he is over rated. If Lockyer doesnt play those 3 games Australia lose all 3 tests...thats how much he put into those games.
I wont even get started on A Johns.
As for Johns...HE SHOULD HAVE RETIRED 2 YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF SENDING HIS CLUB BROKE IN 2005!! Dick.
Roosters Grim Reaper said:Charlie Saab said:Shifty said:Lyons performed as good as any 5/8 at club level, but fell away dramatically at rep level. Much the same as Gower does.
Fittler managed to be a dominant player at Origin and International level, not to the standard of Lewis, Kenny, Daley, etc., but for most of his career failed to deliver at club level. It wasn't until he gave away rep footy to 'concentrate' on club football that he managed to consistently dominate at that level.
The great 5/8's like Lewis, Kenny and Daley managed to consistently dominate in all areas of the game. Fittler was good, but he doesn't compare with the best of them.
i would agree with that. However there was a stage in Daleys career where the canberra folk said he played much better at NSW level than he did an club level. That stigma lasted a couple of yrs, but then died away.
Disputes on ???? when did Wally Lewis dominate at club level?????
He did absolutely nothing but blitz in SOO ,I cant remember one decent game from wally at club level a lazy bum.
my 5/8ths stand Kenny
Daley
Freddy
Walters
Lewis
in order players that delivered the trophy thats what counts
melon.... said:Gower is garbage. Just look at his performances in Rep games. He cant strike a combo with anyone. He struggles to take control of a game..then fails. He is a First Grade Halfback...nothing more nothing less.
melon.... said:Gower is garbage. Just look at his performances in Rep games. He cant strike a combo with anyone. He struggles to take control of a game..then fails. He is a First Grade Halfback...nothing more nothing less.
melon.... said:Gower is garbage. Just look at his performances in Rep games. He cant strike a combo with anyone. He struggles to take control of a game..then fails. He is a First Grade Halfback...nothing more nothing less.