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Breaking: Macquarie Bank wiz to join Eels Board

hineyrulz

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One of your best Mossy. That was a whinge of epic proportions that will do nothing to fix our club. If you really want to see our club improve there are much better ways you could have gone about this you nuff nuff.
Agreed, way to stop petty factional bullshit have a whinge to press at how f**ked this club is.The only way I can see us as a club to move forward is for the NRL to come in and take control of shit never ending shit fight. Parramatta is too important for the NRL to lose, anyone suggesting they would move us to WA is laughable. One of the biggest junior bases in the League with soccer and AFL on out doorstep they would never hand that over to our competitors.
 
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Can someone explain exactly what was proposed re the imposition of a code of conduct for directors? Was a specific code proposed, or just that such a code be developed and ratified later?

Having read his post on TheFilthySpammers and this morning's SMH article.....I don't see why he should shut up. He is quite careful in his words. If this factional crap is ever going to stop, it won't be through the insiders fighting over their toy. He's better off talking directly but calmly to the media (traditional and other), rather than them making up shit (or believing 3rd hand stories) about his perspective on things.
 

Maroubra Eel

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Can someone explain exactly what was proposed re the imposition of a code of conduct for directors? Was a specific code proposed, or just that such a code be developed and ratified later?

Having read his post on TheFilthySpammers and this morning's SMH article.....I don't see why he should shut up. He is quite careful in his words. If this factional crap is ever going to stop, it won't be through the insiders fighting over their toy. He's better off talking directly but calmly to the media (traditional and other), rather than them making up shit (or believing 3rd hand stories) about his perspective on things.

Agree Barry. Although I don't think most posters on here will understand.
 

Maroubra Eel

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Isn't it obvious why the faction didn't want a board code of conduct? There's no way they want the leaks to the media and the muck raking to stop. They want to destabilise at all costs.
 

strider

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we bitch about faction is the board room - but the factions clearly don't stop there - the fans/members are all in on the factionalism too

people vote against things because of who is putting it forward - everyone is skeptical .... I'm sure every single detail doesn't need to be spelt out of every single thing for people to come to a conclusion its generally a good thing or not
 

Jodeci

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Which faction voted against it?

I think u blokes are missing the point. There was no explanation given to what it is and what it stood for.

The Code of Conduct was put up for one simple reason.

It was to block one board member with links to a popular radio station.*

It was knocked back cause they didn't explain the motion. Some people in the room got a small booklet explaining it and some didn't.*

Who is to say this board member will stop it? How are they going to police it? If this board member is found to be doing this, what actions are taken? You see, when these motions went up, the chairman didn't explain any of this info.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I agree it's vague. It looks more like a point scoring exercise than anything practical.

Did they pass a motion condemning Israel? Or did they leave that one to local councils?
 

strider

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they could have still spelt it all out (obviously the booklet must have to some extent, so they have thought about it a bit ... or not I dunno, I never saw the booklet) ... but even if they spelt it out, who says it would stop anyway ..... the obvious conclusion is to believe they will warn, reprimand or dismiss the board members who are found to disobey the code of conduct .... i don't see how that makes people all think its wrong

i dunno - i'm not trying to have a go at you or anything - i just don't see that people need every detail of every single thing to judge if its good or not

and can i ask, how do you know the point of it is for one single reason? - is it because someone leaked that information and you found out? - maybe the person spreading that isn't doing hte right thing either
 
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how do you prove someone leaked something i would imagine it is very hard to get proof unless they did it by email or something that could be tracked
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ys-rejected-moss/story-fnca0von-1226907971914
Board rift will cripple Eels title tilt, says rejected Moss

Margie McDonald
The Australian
May 07, 2014 12:00AM

Further instability at board level will make Parramatta’s quest for a title even harder, says former Macquarie Bank executive Bill Moss. Picture: Sam Mooy Source: News Limited

THE deepening cracks on the Parramatta board are holding the club back from securing another NRL title, according to one of Australia’s best-known corporate identities, Bill Moss.

The former head of Macquarie Bank’s real estate group, which manages more than $23 billion worth of investments around the world, this week tried to join the seven-man Eels board as an independent.

But a resolution put to the annual general meeting on Monday night was voted down along factional lines, with former chairman Roy Spagnolo and former chief executive Denis Fitzgerald pitted against chairman Steve Sharp and CEO Scott Seward.

Board upheaval could not come at a worse time as Parramatta — wooden spooners the past two seasons — is finally a force again under the leadership of new NRL coach Brad Arthur and football director Daniel Anderson, who took the side to the 2009 grand final.

But Moss said all that effort could be wasted if the board did not re-engage fans and the business community.

“Further instability at board level will make the quest for a title even harder,’’ Moss posted on the 1Eyed Eel website.

“You see teams that win titles have the support of the corporate sector: the more companies that support the team, the more sponsorship and third-party agreements you can enter into.’’

That translated into attracting big-name players to Parramatta.

Later Moss told The Australian he did not know his next move, but was contemplating running an independent ticket at the next election.

“It’s pretty hard to help the club if they don’t want to be helped,’’ Moss said last night.

“I’ll just have to wait and see what else I can do. If the board doesn’t want to engage, it’s difficult to make them.

“Maybe if there’s a push by the NRL for independent directors, I could be of some help. But that’s a question for (NRL chief executive) Dave Smith.”

The NRL has encouraged clubs to have independent directors for better governance and accountability. The league has gone as far as making it a criterion in maintaining club grants.

Moss wondered why Eels *directors feared an independent at the table.

“I feel these factions are fighting over more than the right to run a football team or manage a leagues club,’’ he said, declining to expand on the business connections of board members.

Spagnolo declined to comment on why he voted against the resolution.
 

emjaycee

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The code of conduct is a 19 page document that is available on the Parra Leagues website (I cant paste the link from here).
It has been available for a while and copies of it were available for those interested parties at the registration desk at the AGM.

The wording of the motion (I dont have that with me) was simply one or two sentences regarding the "adoption of the Directors Code of Conduct into the Constitution".
 

emjaycee

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I raised this issue after the PDRLC AGM, if Adrian Prozcenko was in attendance at the AGM as a reporter, why was his being present not declared prior to the meeting? If he was there as a member, why is he allowed to divulge details of the AGM without approval of the Board and yet any other member could be suspended for doing so?

And why was he sitting amongst Roy and his family?
 
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One of your best Mossy. That was a whinge of epic proportions that will do nothing to fix our club. If you really want to see our club improve there are much better ways you could have gone about this you nuff nuff.

its strange he got voted out he runs to the media as soon as he doesn't get his way you would think he would fit right in with the eels board :sarcasm:
 

Maroubra Eel

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Got to laugh at all the geniuses in here attempting to discredit Bill Moss.
We definitely have the dumbest fans of any club.
 

Gronk

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Blah blah blah.

What a bunch of small minded f**king wankers.

Dave Smith, please threaten to revoke the franchise. Set conditions. Put us on probation - something ?

We've seen before how this can effect the team on the field. Just as we're starting to put things together the village idiots from all sides come out of the woodwork.

<facepalm>
 

Wizard Sleeve

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Got to laugh at all the geniuses in here attempting to discredit Bill Moss.
We definitely have the dumbest fans of any club.



:shock: until Bills reached at least 5000 posts on LU he's in no way qualified to know what's best for our club . I don't care how many dopes houses he's apparently won .
 

Jodeci

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its strange he got voted out he runs to the media as soon as he doesn't get his way you would think he would fit right in with the eels board :sarcasm:

But Bill Moss himself didn't get voted out.

The motion to install an 8th director did.

Who is to say that if this had passed and then at the next board meeting, the chairman says "I would like to put forward Mr Moss" and say it doesn't get up cause the other directors may have someone they want, I suppose why is he going on about why he didnt get elected.

As Hadley mentioned yesterday, Sharp sent out the letter regarding Moss to the members and didnt tell 4 other directors.

If this was put through, I can only imagine whoever the 4 are that they will reject it.

A lot of if and but's.

I don't think Mr Moss having a whinge to the media is helping cause it will just give Dennis more ammunition to act.
 

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