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Bret Stewart >Josh Dugan & Hayne

Dutchy

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Stewart fears tackling Lote

Was actually a lack of fear that got him injured.

Stewart actually came back faster after the first reco.

People do forget just how f**king good he actually was, as a scorer, game breaker, play maker and in defense. But us Manly fans cant expect him to waltz back into the NRL and be a dominant figure in our side. I bloody hope he gets back into top form as quick as possible, because Brett Stewart at his peak, is by far the best and most complete fullback in the NRL.
 

Timbo

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Stewart's been out for so long I can honestly not remember watching him play.

Yeah if he still has his try-scoring ability then he'll be right in contention but after 2 years off and two knee reconstructions who knows how good he is now.
 
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Yep 2 knee recos, he relies on his speed, he'll never be the same again.

Minichiello however, now there's a guy that's come back from adversity. He should be in the Kangaroo squad, chuck him on the wing or something.
He's still a world class player, and he's my official tip for the Churchill Medal on Sunday...as of now.
 

eagles4eva

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Yep 2 knee recos, he relies on his speed, he'll never be the same again.

Minichiello however, now there's a guy that's come back from adversity. He should be in the Kangaroo squad, chuck him on the wing or something.
He's still a world class player, and he's my official tip for the Churchill Medal on Sunday...as of now.

Big call that, I’ll just wait and see how he goes through rehab and the pre season. I do think he will need time and conditioning over the year.
 

Raider_69

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There have been games where our halves have been injured in 2008 and he virtually became our playmaker from the back. A game against Parramatta I believe at Brookie stands out?

remains to be seen if he can do that consistantly or even at all post knee ops, and time off.
He's got a long way to go before we worry about him being up there with Hayne, Dugan and Slater as the best in the game, but he has the talent to do so. I think he may take 12 months, maybe 18 to get back to near his best and by then, who knows how good Dugan and Hayne might be
im not being biased when i say both Dugan and Hayne at their best are equal to, if not better than Stewart was in his prime.

As said, i quite like Stewart and i hope to see him back at his best because if he is, and he can outplay Dugan and Hayne for the Blues #1 jersey it means he's playing great footy which can only be a great thing for NSW. And canberra since we'll be able to keep Duges in our side... so all the best snake, but i think he'll need every bit of luck and Bozo to get back in the rep scene. Hayne and Dugan are complete freaks, as play makers, ball runners and in dugan's case, try stopper. Snake will have to play out of his skin to get ahead of them imo
 
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AlwaysGreen

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Big call that, I’ll just wait and see how he goes through rehab and the pre season. I do think he will need time and conditioning over the year.
Matty Bowen had 2 knees in a short time span and is nowhere near the player he used to be. Sure he's older then Stewart and rehab takes a long time but the signs aren't great for Matty. Hope both Bowen and Stewart prove me wrong.
 

Garts

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I have never seen such love for a player than I have for Dugan on these forums by a set of fans. Don't get me wrong I am a massive fan and wished he got a shot this year in origin but it's like watching the teenage girls go nuts for that Bieber nice person.
 

eagles4eva

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Matty Bowen had 2 knees in a short time span and is nowhere near the player he used to be. Sure he's older then Stewart and rehab takes a long time but the signs aren't great for Matty. Hope both Bowen and Stewart prove me wrong.

Cows blood, watch it work :lol::lol:
 

Poupou Escobar

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Slater's the best support runner of them all; Stewart is a poor man's Slater.

Although Hayne topped the NRL in try saves this year, I'd say Dugan is the best defensive fullback just because he's better at dealing with kicks.

But of all of them Hayne is the best player - so good he plays a hybrid halfback-fullback role. Brian Smith tried to play Carney in the same role early in the season but he wasn't good enough defensively.
 

boxhead

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Who cares, each of the 4 fullbacks are great when at their best. I'm sure each of the 4 clubs wouldn't swap their fullbacks for anyone either because they have become heroes to their respective fans. It is so petty arguing over this.

:clap: What a great post, I think that is very true and I wholly agree with that sentiment.

Slater's the best support runner of them all; Stewart is a poor man's Slater.

Although Hayne topped the NRL in try saves this year, I'd say Dugan is the best defensive fullback just because he's better at dealing with kicks.

But of all of them Hayne is the best player - so good he plays a hybrid halfback-fullback role. Brian Smith tried to play Carney in the same role early in the season but he wasn't good enough defensively.

In my opinion, Slater is the best natural fullback, Dugan is the best defensive fullback, Hayne is the best play-making fullback. I don't see any three of them being better than the others, and I don't really remember much about Stewart to rate him (sadly).
Dugan, Hayne and Slater each offer something different, and for their respective teams they are the best at what they are used for.
Hayne is by far the best playmaker of the three and the best athlete, Dugan is the best defensively and also the closest (but still a distance) to Slater as a support player-and a handy play-maker as well, but Slater is far and away the best instinctual and support-running/i.e. 'natural' fullback of the three.

We should just be happy that we have these four great fullbacks, who are each absolute stars, in our game in the modern age. Personally, though they each play differently, all four definitely are 'equals' in the sense that for what they do, they are brilliant at it and what they do for their team is huge.
I don't know why people have to say so much crap about these players when they are all great.......
 

Poupou Escobar

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We should just be happy that we have these four great fullbacks, who are each absolute stars, in our game in the modern age.

No! We should put sh*t on Hayne for only coming 2nd in total metres, 10th in line breaks and 7th in linebreak assists, after last year running 1st (by 1000m), 1st (by 8 line breaks) and 48th. What an atrocious attacking player (though he did come first in the NRL for try saves).

We should rubbish Dugan for making more errors than every other fullback bar Slater (they tied for first among all fullbacks) and missing more tackles than any other fullback bar Slater and Wesser (he also tied with Lachlan Coote). What a useless defensive fullback (though he did come first in the NRL for tackle breaks).

We should criticise Slater for being lazy - he came 30th of all fullbacks for average runs per match, and 10th out of all regular fullbacks for total runs. He also came 35th of all fullbacks for average metres per match, and 10th of all regular fullbacks for total metres. What a lazy, lazy player (though he did come 5th in the NRL for linebreak assists).

Lastly we should hammer Brett Stewart for getting off an a technicality, because in the court of public opinion we're all guilty until proven innocent.
 
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WaznTheGreat

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LOL @ Stewart

He is only good because of his teammates putting him through gaps,i have never ever seen him score length of the field solo tries like Hayne.


Hayne is a solo man who can do everything all by himself,Stewart is absolutely worthless unless he has good players in his team setting him up for tries.
 

^_^

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The last full year B.Stewart played (08) he was the top try scorer in the NRL & Manly won the premiership....with a supposedly "overated" halfback. Facts speak for themselves but no point speculating about his future performances can only wait and see.

Haynetrain- 1.47secs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjSIkmWLkpE

Crap vid but Stewart wasnt slow and there is your length of the field try.

In regards to Origin Stewart/Gidley/Hayne had their chances at FB and couldnt get a result....what does that show? They need a proper halves combo next yr cause i think Hayne & Stewart were outstanding at FB in losing origin teams. Throw Dugan in there & its a great thing to have players fighting for spots in NSW especially if Carney/Peirce combo works out!

Everytime i look at Manly i think about the fact they have been missing their best attacking weapon at fullback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4h-K4cn2uI&feature=related
 
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league

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Stewart pre injuries was the best fullback in the world bar none, even better than Slater.

Amazing player.
 

typicalfan

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And Mini pre injury was better than Stewart easily. Slater has gone to another level since then. He is easily the best at the moment.
 

willvillain

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LOL @ Stewart

He is only good because of his teammates putting him through gaps,i have never ever seen him score length of the field solo tries like Hayne.


Hayne is a solo man who can do everything all by himself,Stewart is absolutely worthless unless he has good players in his team setting him up for tries.

Exactly. Best post in this thread.

Didn't you all see how Ben Farrar became the best fullback in the comp this year? It's all because of Stewart's Manly team-mates. His injury has nothing to do with the team dropping from 1st to 5th to 8th in the time that he's been out. It's someone else's fault.

(You're an idiot).
 

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