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Brett Seymour under investigation for alcohol incident

Snoz

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i am going to cop it for this remark but what did seymour do wrong - i reckon more than 50% of people on this forum have been in the same position and i bet we all woke the next morning not expecting to get in trouble.

i am a manly fan and want consistency with punishment as much as the next person but fair dunkum all seymour did was drink and fall over. bad timing yes, silly yes but serious no.
 

Garts

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$20k for what he did is insane. If this is going to be the norm for these types of incidents we will be losing lots of players o/s.
 

ibeme

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Has Ch9 aired this footage yet?

Earlier reports had Cronulla clearing him based video footage:

"The footage shows Brett being escorted from the club by two security staff and then walking up the mall," Major said.
"It does show a man falling into the garden bed - but that wasn't Brett."
Major also denied TV reports that Seymour had wet himself.
"That's not correct - he had a drink spilled over him," he said.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25207503-23214,00.html

Now they've fined him $20k? Does Ch9 footage show something different?
 

Kiki

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good lord, if i got fined 20 grand every time i got drunk and had a stack i would be homeless.
 

Noa

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Just watched that clip and that gets you a 20k fine, that'll do me. Shame on Zappia for allowing himself to become part of nines circus.

I like how the sports organisation in Europe and America handle thses things and one thing they dont do is allow the media to dictate policy to them.
 

Inferno

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bullsh*t punishment and a bullsh*t fine.

This might just bite Zaps in the ass come recruiting season in a few months...
 

El Diablo

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,25212882-5016549,00.html

Sharks NRL star Brett Seymour admits he has a drinking problem

Exclusive by Dean Ritchie | March 20, 2009 12:00am

CRONULLA officials and teammates have vowed to stand by halfback Brett Seymour after his latest incident in a career marred by alcohol-related issues.

Seymour told teammates two weeks ago he needed help for a drinking problem, but a 10-hour bender last Sunday resulted in him being fined $20,000 and suspended for two matches by his club.

Despite their strong action, Cronulla officials yesterday maintained they will support Seymour through any rehabilitation program.

Seymour, who was sacked in 2006 by the Broncos for off-field problems, will miss matches against Newcastle this Monday night and the local derby against St George Illawarra at Kogarah.

"Brett said today he had stuffed up and not only let down his team-mates but also the club," said Sharks chief executive Tony Zappia.

"He is embarrassed and remorseful. He knows he has some issues to deal with and Brett is working through them. The club will support him all the way."

The NRL board also suspended Roosters hooker Jake Friend for two games for high-range drink-driving. Friend had been fined $10,000 by the Roosters.

The latest transgressions prompted NRL chief executive David Gallop to say "enough is enough".

Seymour's punishment came after a woman recorded the drunken player staggering through Cronulla Mall on her mobile phone. He knocked down a woman and crashed out on the concrete.

Seymour was not answering calls last night. "At this stage we are yet to be issued with the breach notice," said Seymour's manager George Mimis. "Once we receive it, we will review it and respond accordingly."

In another bad week for the code, Friend registered a blood-alcohol reading of 0.16 and has been replaced by Ben Jones for the Roosters' game against Canberra this Sunday.

Roosters coach Brad Fittler originally selected Friend in his line-up before the NRL intervened.

"We're very disappointed from a club's point of view," Fittler said of Friend's ban. "We believe in our discipline procedure. He will now be penalised by his teammates, the NRL, the club and the law. The kid is shattered, but we have to move on."

Friend's manager Steve Gillis was shocked at the suspension.

"The NRL has been hard but unfair. What's next? Sit a player out for a week if he goes through a stop sign or red light," Gillis said.

"We accept he's made a big mistake but there's got to be some consistency. But where we are at? Where are the guidelines? The sooner we get an independent commission the better.

"It will get to the stage where players will no longer be able to interact with the public. That would be a shame.

"I'm not saying what he did was right, he made a very poor choice, but the punishment is excessive. Effectively, with lost match payments, Jake will lose $16,000. From time to time, everyone in life makes mistakes."
 

fatshark

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Seymour told teammates two weeks ago he needed help for a drinking problem
Did he tell the coach? or did Ricky tell him to drink more water in between beers??


The club will support him all the way."
Bit late.
i reckon more than 50% of people on this forum have been in the same position and i bet we all woke the next morning not expecting to get in trouble.
I Know someonewho used to work at the nightspots down the Nulla and Miranda frequently...this is nothing compared to what used to happen. Every weekend players from EVERY club, even out of state teams use to stumble out of the clubs.They were a protected species and rarely any sh*t would go down with the major players.
Because of nob heads like Weidler and neine the players privacy is no more.
 

Hindyscrack

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No he didn't do anything illegal, but he did put himself in a position to be an embarassment to the NRL. His choice, his risk.

How so?

Most of the people in and around night spots are intoxicated too... And dont give me that role model bullsh1t! No impressionable kid is out grabbing a kebab at that time of the morning/evening.

Too many f*cking wowsers and hypocrites in the media... The NRL is letting the media give them a bollocking and madness now prevails. There is no consistancy, no guidlines and ridiculous fines are being handed out.

Here in england there isnt a week that goes by without some pissed up footballer being arrested or making a twat of himself. The FA doesnt bend over and cop it from the press. Harden the f*ck NRL and cop a dose of reality, young men and women will drink.
 

Noa

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How so?

Most of the people in and around night spots are intoxicated too... And dont give me that role model bullsh1t! No impressionable kid is out grabbing a kebab at that time of the morning/evening.

Too many f*cking wowsers and hypocrites in the media... The NRL is letting the media give them a bollocking and madness now prevails. There is no consistancy, no guidlines and ridiculous fines are being handed out.

Here in england there isnt a week that goes by without some pissed up footballer being arrested or making a twat of himself. The FA doesnt bend over and cop it from the press. Harden the f*ck NRL and cop a dose of reality, young men and women will drink.


Great post, a couple of posters on here would have fit right in about the time of Oliver Cromwell and his puritanical mates,

The NRL and these softcock GMs need to stare these parasites in the eye and say "there was no violence, no one was hurt, cover the news and stop trying to make it, We just had the best opening round of football in living memeory and your worried about some-one falling asleep in a garden".

PS. Obviously the Friend incident is some-what serious, so I have no qualms with him being suspended.
 

cronker

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Seymour told teammates two weeks ago he needed help for a drinking problem, but a 10-hour bender last Sunday resulted in him being fined $20,000 and suspended for two matches by his club.

Wow, thanks for the help.
I don't wish to wade into the issue of league players and their drinking habits, but as a person who has come through the dark tunnel of alcohol addiction, I would say that Seymour is asking for those around him to help him through this difficult time. This admission by him that he has a problem with his alcohol is a major step, and should be treated as such. If he has mates within the club, it is now time for them to respond to his request for help.

A good friend wouldn't have allowed him to go on a 10-hour bender only days after he had asked for help.
 

Meth

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its a joke

Stuart instigates the drinking session- kinds of makes it difficult for the Sharks to have integrity in punishing a guy for getting pissed

I've never understood why people don't like Wiedler until this moment
 

Garts

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Great post, a couple of posters on here would have fit right in about the time of Oliver Cromwell and his puritanical mates,

The NRL and these softcock GMs need to stare these parasites in the eye and say "there was no violence, no one was hurt, cover the news and stop trying to make it, We just had the best opening round of football in living memeory and your worried about some-one falling asleep in a garden".

PS. Obviously the Friend incident is some-what serious, so I have no qualms with him being suspended.

Exactly. We need to stand our ground on issues like this.
 

Timmah

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Some of the rubbish you guys are going on with is unbelievable.

If one of you went out and carried on like a porkchop got drunk in public, abused people, whatever Seymour did, you wouldn't get in trouble. Reason? You aren't a f**king paid professional in a high profile sport. Seymour is, and like it or not his actions reflect on his club and indeed his code. Everyone here is quite insular in how they are suggesting punishments - if we want to bring new fans in we can't keep accepting low standards of tolerance when it comes to this behaviour - the public will not accept the soft-touch approach anymore.
 

Garts

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But some of them are not highly paid. Friend is reported to be on $50k, megabucks. I dare say Seymour is not on any more than $150k. Hardly a sh!tload of money.

I have not heard the reports of Seymour abusing people. All I have heard is he got pissed and fell over. To me that is not bringing the game into disrepute. If someone is not going to be a fan because a player does this they are a f**king idiot as far as I am concerned. You are a fan because of the on field product not what happens off it. If the onfield product is good who cares if somone gets pissed and falls over. Obviously the Jake Friend charge and Stewart charge are serious and I can understand why the NRL took action but Seymours is taking it to far.
 

gong_eagle

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he got drunk, didn't break any laws as far as I know, so we now have a new law of the land according to Gallop ,did that girl take him home ?
 

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