Brett Seymour under investigation for alcohol incident

[myanonymoususername]

its a joke

Stuart instigates the drinking session- kinds of makes it difficult for the Sharks to have integrity in punishing a guy for getting pissed

Yeah, but no-one forced him to drink the amount he obviously did. He's a big boy and responsible for how much he drinks and whatever else he does.

 

[bartman]

Wow, thanks for the help.
I don't wish to wade into the issue of league players and their drinking habits, but as a person who has come through the dark tunnel of alcohol addiction, I would say that Seymour is asking for those around him to help him through this difficult time. This admission by him that he has a problem with his alcohol is a major step, and should be treated as such. If he has mates within the club, it is now time for them to respond to his request for help.

A good friend wouldn't have allowed him to go on a 10-hour bender only days after he had asked for help.

Exactly.

And if it wasn't for this fine and suspension, Seymour may not have put his hand up and realised/admitted he had a problem, and not be in a position to call on help from his mates which will be so important.

The NRL has a duty to those employed in its industry and by its member clubs to look after their welfare - not perpetuate conditions that allow their welfare to deteriorate. Fines and standing down for alcohol related public behaviour is all part and parcel of that.

 

[bartman]

Some of the rubbish you guys are going on with is unbelievable.

If one of you went out and carried on like a porkchop got drunk in public, abused people, whatever Seymour did, you wouldn't get in trouble. Reason? You aren't a f**king paid professional in a high profile sport. Seymour is, and like it or not his actions reflect on his club and indeed his code. Everyone here is quite insular in how they are suggesting punishments - if we want to bring new fans in we can't keep accepting low standards of tolerance when it comes to this behaviour - the public will not accept the soft-touch approach anymore.

My god, I don't usually say this... but Timmah, you're making a lot of sense ;-)

 

[bartman]

Here in england there isnt a week that goes by without some pissed up footballer being arrested or making a twat of himself. The FA doesnt bend over and cop it from the press. Harden the f*ck NRL and cop a dose of reality, young men and women will drink.

The FA is hardly in the meagre financial position that our game is in either.

Our game and the NRL have to protect their investment as well as attract more money into the game - from corporations, government and families and fans. It can't do that when players drink to excess in public each and every week.

Is it too much to ask for players to stop at... maybe four drinks a session? And save the bender for their mad monday (behind closed doors)? For the good of and the future of the game (and maintaining players' higher than realistic wages), I don't think its too much to ask.

 

[kia ora storm]

Someone should get Gallop trashed and then we can sack him...

 

[bartman]

i cannot BELIEVE they fined him 20 grand for being drunk. have they lost their damn minds?? last time i looked getting pissed wasn't against the law. how utterly absurd.

But the reality is that getting pissed to excess harms the revenue streams (sponsorship, broadcast rights, government funding and families/potential fans and future players) for the industry that players draw their wages from.

It's not about what is against the law - it's about elite players making a reasonable sacrifice in return for the privilege to earn above average wage salaries for playing NRL football. The game doesn't have enough money to sustain the cost of running its NRL teams, and apparently can't attract more money in without some change in its "culture".

When suspended like this for public behaviour breaching the code of conduct, players keep earning their contract money. Hence the fines as well, otherwise players wouldn't stop drinking to excess and publically bringing the game into disrepute, because with a suspension only they'd earn the same pay for doing less work - hardly and incentive to change their ways.

 

[Ryan]

I support Manly, and think there is TOTALLY nothing wrong with what Seymour has done.

Actually, I'm quite jealous. I want to know what a bloke with a head as poor as his, can get a filly like that ! Hehehehehe. She was a honey.

If a bloke can't go out, get on a the drink, and take a blondey home for a romp, then we have troubles in society.

If it was anyone's mate, and not a footballer, we'd all be congratulating him.

 

[forward pass]

Who in the hell sees someone in that state and pulls out their phone to film the whole thing.

That person should be fined too !

 

[Perth Red]

Who in the hell sees someone in that state and pulls out their phone to film the whole thing.

That person should be fined too !

you obviously don't go on youtube much!

Ricky taking a player with a self confessed drinking problem out for a beer, great man management technique!

 

[j5o6hn]

I cant believe some of you people,its is to your minds perfectly acceptable for any footballer to get rotten drunk,fall about all over the place and make an arse of him self and his club.
In a week when the code has had so much bad publicity, sponsors threatening to dump the game and that will mean the players get less money,these fools have a certain amount of responsibility to behave knowing the amount of scrutiny they are under,from people who want to destroy the Game.
If he wants to get drunk and do what he did go and play footy in the park and no one will care, as for Manly,you get what you deserve you club and Steward got what they deserved,sorry the NRL where right and as long as the players are silly enough to do stupid things this will happen Timmah is right.

 

[Noa]

When suspended like this for public behaviour breaching the code of conduct, players keep earning their contract money. Hence the fines as well, otherwise players wouldn't stop drinking to excess and publically bringing the game into disrepute, because with a suspension only they'd earn the same pay for doing less work - hardly and incentive to change their ways.

When has the threat of punishment ever stopped anyone from doing anything. Our overflowing gaols are proof of that.

You got rocks in your head if you think that will have any effect.

 

[BWNB]

Looked at it again, its a setup like many others have said.

 

[Garts]

I cant believe some of you people,its is to your minds perfectly acceptable for any footballer to get rotten drunk,fall about all over the place and make an arse of him self and his club.
In a week when the code has had so much bad publicity, sponsors threatening to dump the game and that will mean the players get less money,these fools have a certain amount of responsibility to behave knowing the amount of scrutiny they are under,from people who want to destroy the Game.
If he wants to get drunk and do what he did go and play footy in the park and no one will care, as for Manly,you get what you deserve you club and Steward got what they deserved,sorry the NRL where right and as long as the players are silly enough to do stupid things this will happen Timmah is right.

My head hurts after reading that!!!!!

 

[fatshark]

Her librarian comments as well seemed a bit odd. She didnt expect to see any intoxicated people at that time of the night at the Nulla? What about her "friend", she wasnt intoxicated?

 

[Timmah]

I love how some of you are sitting there dissecting the incident. "Zoom out" of the particulars - he's gotten drunk and as a result a negative news story. Cronulla have seen enough to say "2 weeks out". By all means, debate the semantics, but if you support Seymour in this I don't think you're looking at the big picture of the game itself, and the public perception of it. If you don't care, fair enough - but it could be your loss (and everyone's) in the future if the culture isn't nipped in the bud now.

 

[PJ]

I'm more concerned with the culture of low lifes thinking just cause they have a camera they can film whatever and who ever they like, and the media that has sunk so low as to report a non event such as this as well as the way they havre reported it.

First of they report that he had wet himself, he hadn't. Rudimentary checking of facts cleared this up.

They reported he had fallen asleep in a flower bed, he hadn't. Again some basic research fixed that up.

So now it is news that a 24 year old was drunk on his own time, nowhere near kids or families and fell over which may or not have been as much a fault of the drunk person he was with.

I didn't see the 9 report, I refuse to watch that worm but apparently the girl didn't want to be identified. She is quite happy to invade someone else right to a bit of privacy, why does she get to keep hers?

Very sad for society in general.

Reminds of the pathetic little p!ssants at school who would go running off to tell the teacher whenever anyone did anything wrong and the self important drongo who is up there revealing the facts. Try digging up a real story worm or just go back to promoting the boxing and pretending that is news. FFS how 9 let a respected journalist leave over this hacks hijacking exclusive news to promote boxing is beyond me.

 

[kia ora storm]

Forget about whether it was a set up or not...Seymour was smashed.

Or did they ply him with drink as well ??.:sarcasm:

 

[PJ]

Yes he was, on his own time and nowhere near any official function. The same as the vast majority of people his age are at some stage on their time off.

If he was at an NRL function, fine suspend him.

Same for a Sharks function.

If he had been breathalysed at training and still had alcohol in his system suspend him as well.

But imo imposing suspensions and fines on players for doing something that is not illegal, and as far as I can tell nothing more than an inconvenience to 1 or 2 people, is unreasonable. Remember we have been told of all these alleged things he has done, and two of them have been shown to be complete fabrications with the only real evidence being him stumbling down a mall. Hardly evidence that he has been running amok and causing damage and/or offence.

If some girl hadn't been out to make a name for herself, deliberately cause trouble or trying to grab some cash we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Weidlers initial report would have been shown to be what it is, which is rubbish and lies and would have all gone away like it should have.

 

[Timmah]

Seymour has supposedly admitted to a drinking problem:

NRL officials and teammates have vowed to stand by Cronulla halfback Brett Seymour after his latest incident in a career marred by alcohol-related issues.

Seymour told teammates two weeks ago he needed help for a drinking problem, but a 10-hour bender last Sunday resulted in him being fined $20,000 and suspended for two matches by his club.

Watch the footage of Seymour here

Despite their strong action, Cronulla officials yesterday maintained they will support Seymour through any rehabilitation program.

Seymour, who was sacked in 2006 by the Broncos for off-field problems, will miss matches against Newcastle on Monday night and the local derby against St George Illawarra at Kogarah.

"Brett said today he had stuffed up and not only let down his team-mates but also the club," Sharks chief executive Tony Zappia said.

"He is embarrassed and remorseful. He knows he has some issues to deal with and Brett is working through them. The club will support him all the way."

The NRL board also suspended Roosters hooker Jake Friend for two games for high-range drink-driving. Friend had been fined $10,000 by the Roosters.

The latest transgressions prompted NRL chief executive David Gallop to say "enough is enough".

Seymour's punishment came after a woman recorded the drunken player staggering through Cronulla Mall on her mobile phone.

He knocked down a woman and crashed out on the concrete.

Seymour was not answering calls last night.

"At this stage we are yet to be issued with the breach notice," Seymour's manager George Mimis said.

"Once we receive it, we will review it and respond accordingly."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25214351-421,00.html

 

[Garts]

Maybe he does and maybe he does not. He probably had to come out and say that to keep people happy. Much like Ricky Ponting had to say after his drunken incident to keep people happy. I guess I am skeptical it has been said to shut people up.

If having a drinking problem is going out and getting smashed most weekends then I used to have a major drinking problem. Actually maybe I still do