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Brian Smith...

azsportza

Live Update Team
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I am going to beat the crazies to the punch. I am sure there are some of you out there that would think Brian Smith would make a wonderful coach at the Tigers in place of Sheens.

Two questions for you...If he was such a great coach, why would the Roosters sack him. Secondly, how would Smith improve the Tigers if for some strange reason Sheens was sacked and we hired Smith?
 

hybrid_tiger

Coach
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Smith would never win us a comp, but he is the man you want if you need to rebuild your club. The issue is after 1-2 years he seems to lose his players.

Personally I wouldn't opt for him, but he is hardly the terrible coach he's made out to be in the media.

The Eels were an absolute rabble before he arrived. He turned them into a club that was always competitive and more often than not made the finals.

He did the same at Newcastle cleaning out the horrible rubbish they had on their roster. Who can forget the articles in the Telegraph vilifying him for daring to get rid of dross like Clint Newton?

He did the same at the Roosters, taking them to a grand final.
 

azsportza

Live Update Team
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Smith would never win us a comp, but he is the man you want if you need to rebuild your club. The issue is after 1-2 years he seems to lose his players.

Personally I wouldn't opt for him, but he is hardly the terrible coach he's made out to be in the media.

The Eels were an absolute rabble before he arrived. He turned them into a club that was always competitive and more often than not made the finals.

He did the same at Newcastle cleaning out the horrible rubbish they had on their roster. Who can forget the articles in the Telegraph vilifying him for daring to get rid of dross like Clint Newton?

He did the same at the Roosters, taking them to a grand final.

He might of taken the Roosters to a grand final, but since then they have fallen away. Smith might be an option to re-build a club, but long term I can't see him being a stable coach
 

moller

Juniors
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He's very much a short-term option, wouldn't take him.

More hoping that Noyce makes a call to his old mate Teflon Tim...
 

hybrid_tiger

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He might of taken the Roosters to a grand final, but since then they have fallen away. Smith might be an option to re-build a club, but long term I can't see him being a stable coach

I agree that he's not a long term option.

Fingers crossed that the Roosters may want Sheens.
 

madunit

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Sheens isn't a long term option either. tbh no coach really is these days.
 

Matchball

Bench
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I'd rather aids than Brian Smith.
His ego tears clubs apart and players divide.

Anasta hates him and I'm sure he wouldnt want smith following him.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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I suspect the Roosters have Taylor lined up for next year, with an option for longer if they don't get Bellamy. I'm afraid we don't get rid of Sheens that easily.
Here's the difference between the Tigers & Roosters - Roosters have a powerful boss who doesn't tolerate failure and isn't scared to get rid of non-performers.
 

super_coach

First Grade
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Sheens will not be going anywhere, we reward failure unlike most other clubs. Really if Sheens was under the pump their would have been a leak by now.

As for Brian Smith,like Sheens well past his use by date and again like Sheens over rated by all and sundry.

Sad state of affairs, we are going to have the slowest oldest starting 17 in the comp next year and it will be reflected on the table at the end of the season
 
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I suspect the Roosters have Taylor lined up for next year, with an option for longer if they don't get Bellamy. I'm afraid we don't get rid of Sheens that easily.
Here's the difference between the Tigers & Roosters - Roosters have a powerful boss who doesn't tolerate failure and isn't scared to get rid of non-performers.

Unless they're Greek as well then it's all family
 

Pistol_Pete

Juniors
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Great call moller, maybe Noyce will have a lash for Sheens. Everyone ones. We won't stand in his way, he hasn't been sacked and he can take his spastic cronies and support staff with him. Please god let the prick go to Easts
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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Sheens isn't a long term option either. tbh no coach really is these days.

I can't believe that I'm doing this but I agree 100%.

I reckon Smith would be great for a couple of years. I don't think that Sheens is a bad coach either but sometimes you just need a change.
 

super_coach

First Grade
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I can't believe that I'm doing this but I agree 100%.

I reckon Smith would be great for a couple of years. I don't think that Sheens is a bad coach either but sometimes you just need a change.

At least we would not get smashed by a team he coaches!!!! In saying that Tiger05 wash your mouth out, Brian Smith is the only person I know who is below Sheens
 

innsaneink

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He might of taken the Roosters to a grand final, but since then they have fallen away. Smith might be an option to re-build a club, but long term I can't see him being a stable coach

You can apply the very same words to Teflon
 

hybrid_tiger

Coach
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I can't believe that I'm doing this but I agree 100%.

I reckon Smith would be great for a couple of years. I don't think that Sheens is a bad coach either but sometimes you just need a change.

The last two pathetic games changed your mind about needing a change, didn't they?

I definitely agree we need a change. The place is as stale as two month old bread.
 
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Change is needed,The players are not responding to the coach,the coach seems to be in denial that there is a problem at the club or the 2012 failure had anything do do with him,instead he blames Farah for missing a field goal, WTF.
 

R2Coupe

Juniors
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I suspect the Roosters have Taylor lined up for next year, with an option for longer if they don't get Bellamy. I'm afraid we don't get rid of Sheens that easily.
Here's the difference between the Tigers & Roosters - Roosters have a powerful boss who doesn't tolerate failure and isn't scared to get rid of non-performers.

And what have the Roosters achieved in bringing in Smith? A considerable payout of the last year of his contract, a cleanout of players presumably with another cleanout to follow with the new coach. Did the results achieved justify the first cleanout? Well Smith has been sacked.

The new coach will have a three year plan and so on and such forth.

All well and good to not tolerate failure, but if failure occurs after previous change what point the change?
 

Magpies Forever

Juniors
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And what have the Roosters achieved in bringing in Smith? A considerable payout of the last year of his contract, a cleanout of players presumably with another cleanout to follow with the new coach. Did the results achieved justify the first cleanout? Well Smith has been sacked.

The new coach will have a three year plan and so on and such forth.

All well and good to not tolerating failure, but if failure occurs after previous change what point the change?

Mate, you are indefatigible. You never know unless you change. Yes, you may fail but then again you just may succeed. If you keep on with the existing failure you accept mediocrity.
 

R2Coupe

Juniors
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It is a very expensive gamble and football clubs presumably run as businesses. Doesn't seem like good business to me but the Roosters do have a benefactor so good luck to them.
 

CrazyTiger

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Smith would never win us a comp, but he is the man you want if you need to rebuild your club. The issue is after 1-2 years he seems to lose his players.

Personally I wouldn't opt for him, but he is hardly the terrible coach he's made out to be in the media.

The Eels were an absolute rabble before he arrived. He turned them into a club that was always competitive and more often than not made the finals.

He did the same at Newcastle cleaning out the horrible rubbish they had on their roster. Who can forget the articles in the Telegraph vilifying him for daring to get rid of dross like Clint Newton?

He did the same at the Roosters, taking them to a grand final.

He ressurected St George back into a force after they had deteriorated into a rabble in
the late 80s. He grossly overachieved getting them into two grandfinals in 92 and 93
they had no chance of winning.

A much maligned coach. He has personality issues though which doesn't auger well
for keeping Benji if be didn't follow Sheens out the door.
 
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