Brian Smith...

[DictatingTerms]

I definitely agree we need a change. The place is as stale as two month old bread.

If they're going to take a coach from another team they may as well try for Bellamy and hope that his spluttering all over the players in his bucking-bronco-like rants will inspire them.

 

[Vic Mackey]

And what have the Roosters achieved in bringing in Smith? A considerable payout of the last year of his contract, a cleanout of players presumably with another cleanout to follow with the new coach. Did the results achieved justify the first cleanout? Well Smith has been sacked.

The new coach will have a three year plan and so on and such forth.

All well and good to not tolerate failure, but if failure occurs after previous change what point the change?

I understand what you are saying however smith really has a lifespan of 3 years at a club. He is great at cleaning it out and bringing fresh new blood in. The roosters in 2009 were like us in 2002, seriously they were an absolute rabble with a disgusting culture. They massively over achieved in 2010 through todd carney having a bullshit good season. Smith has done what politis wanted him to do, now it's time for a coach to win them a premiership, which smith has set the platform for.

The roosters have the best young talent in the comp bar none. If they aren't a consistent top 4 team over the next 3-4 years I will be completely shocked.

The roosters are the most cut throat club in the league and they know smith can't bring them any further success so they cut ties with him. If smith was at the tigers he would have been given a 3 year contract this year.

 

[CrazyTiger]

I suspect the Roosters have Taylor lined up for next year, with an option for longer if they don't get Bellamy. I'm afraid we don't get rid of Sheens that easily.
Here's the difference between the Tigers & Roosters - Roosters have a powerful boss who doesn't tolerate failure and isn't scared to get rid of non-performers.

lol. I love the old line that the Rooters don't tolerate failure. One premiership since
1975, having tried to buy a premiership every year since that time. And their one
miserable premiership came when the Dogs were stripped of their points.

The Roosters are the embodiment of failure, with next to no fans to show for it,
and the the noose waiting for them Politis when pops his clogs.

A bloody expensive failure of a club.

 

[Ron's_Mate]

And what have the Roosters achieved in bringing in Smith? A considerable payout of the last year of his contract, a cleanout of players presumably with another cleanout to follow with the new coach. Did the results achieved justify the first cleanout? Well Smith has been sacked.

The new coach will have a three year plan and so on and such forth.

All well and good to not tolerate failure, but if failure occurs after previous change what point the change?

And I suppose the Bulldogs should have stuck with Kevin Moore?
Muppet.

 

[super_coach]

We are the only club in the NRL that year after year reward failure. I just dont get it, I hate to say it but I hope they get the spoon next year and the board,the ceo and Sheens are punted to Mongolia

 

[R2Coupe]

lol. I love the old line that the Rooters don't tolerate failure. One premiership since
1975, having tried to buy a premiership every year since that time. And their one
miserable premiership came when the Dogs were stripped of their points.

The Roosters are the embodiment of failure, with next to no fans to show for it,
and the the noose waiting for them Politis when pops his clogs.

A bloody expensive failure of a club.

Well said.

 

[R2Coupe]

I understand what you are saying however smith really has a lifespan of 3 years at a club. He is great at cleaning it out and bringing fresh new blood in. The roosters in 2009 were like us in 2002, seriously they were an absolute rabble with a disgusting culture. They massively over achieved in 2010 through todd carney having a bullshit good season. Smith has done what politis wanted him to do, now it's time for a coach to win them a premiership, which smith has set the platform for.

The roosters have the best young talent in the comp bar none. If they aren't a consistent top 4 team over the next 3-4 years I will be completely shocked.

The roosters are the most cut throat club in the league and they know smith can't bring them any further success so they cut ties with him. If smith was at the tigers he would have been given a 3 year contract this year.

I appreciate your view but all this change hasn't made the Roosters better. They do have good talent but we have outstanding talent in the lower grades.

 

[Tiger05]

The last two pathetic games changed your mind about needing a change, didn't they?

I think that coaches shouldn't stay too long at any club however if the results are reasonable and the club is doing well overall (no Terry Lamb type stuff) then the coach can stay on.

Those last two games were atrocious. The effort was simply not there. This season as well was unacceptable - we were favourites and didn't make the top 8.

 

[innsaneink]

I think "Roosters dont have the patience to work & build for success" is more apt than "Roosters dont tolerate failure"

Need a balance there

They are at one extreme...we are the other

We are like the couple thats long gone past their use by date, sticking together in blind hope, knowing its over and the best thing is to cut losses and just split, and start afresh

 

[Tiger05]

It is a very expensive gamble and football clubs presumably run as businesses. Doesn't seem like good business to me but the Roosters do have a benefactor so good luck to them.

This is something that I agree with as well. It is a business and reactionary sacking of coaches is dumb.

I think Sheens should go however if it costs the club too much money well he has to stay on. There should be a calm structured transition that doesn't cost us a fortune.

 

[macnaz]

Wont the decline in membership , sponsorship and fans also be costly should we drop even further in the comp.

 

[Tiger05]

Wont the decline in membership , sponsorship and fans also be costly should we drop even further in the comp.

Who knows if this is going to happen or if the change in coach will make it worse or better.

You can manage the coaches cost. The other factors are a little out of your control.

To add to that there is no reason why we cannot do well next year. We have 2 top quality players in Benji and Robbie and we have plenty of talent in the club apart from them. To add to that Sheens must realise changes need to be made.

 

[innsaneink]

Who knows if this is going to happen or if the change in coach will make it worse or better.

You can manage the coaches cost. The other factors are a little out of your control.

To add to that there is no reason why we cannot do well next year. We have 2 top quality players in Benji and Robbie and we have plenty of talent in the club apart from them. To add to that Sheens must realise changes need to be made.

Thats a big reason why we wont do well

Nothing much has changed in his tenure here

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

lol. I love the old line that the Rooters don't tolerate failure. One premiership since
1975, having tried to buy a premiership every year since that time. And their one
miserable premiership came when the Dogs were stripped of their points.

The Roosters are the embodiment of failure, with next to no fans to show for it,
and the the noose waiting for them Politis when pops his clogs.

A bloody expensive failure of a club.

We've played in more grand finals since 2000 than Wests Tigers have made finals series. Being a successful club is more than just winning a game in October. Financially the club is well off and that's not Uncle Nick throwing cash to bump it up either.

Our future looks bright. Good crop of kids coming through who need experience and decent coach and potentially the coup signing of the decade. I'd rather be in our position than Wests' position. How many years will your club tolerate a finals series or two or every 5 years?

 

[851]

We've played in more grand finals since 2000 than Wests Tigers have made finals series. Being a successful club is more than just winning a game in October. Financially the club is well off and that's not Uncle Nick throwing cash to bump it up either.

Our future looks bright. Good crop of kids coming through who need experience and decent coach and potentially the coup signing of the decade. I'd rather be in our position than Wests' position. How many years will your club tolerate a finals series or two or every 5 years?

You are right Easts are not a failure,they have enjoyed plenty of recent success(past 12 years),I am an unhappy WestsTigers fan,but bagging Easts is just stupid and has no relevence,as Smith took Easts from the spoon in 09 to the 2010 GF.