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Brisbane Bombers Bid

God-King Dean

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Why the f**k would anyone go for them though? They aren't the anti-Broncos. They are a carbon copy of the Broncos.

This is what I always point out.

Imagine living in Brisbane, seeing your team win a bunch of premierships. Why the f**k would anyone switch to this team that has appeared out of thin air?
 

Perth Red

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Why did the 20k support the Crushers? guess there are fans in Brisbane who don't want to support the Broncos for whatever reason. I heard the same arguments when the idea of the Freo Dockers was muted, why bother when everyone supports the Eagles. The Dockers now avg 30K+ crowds.
 
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Why did the 20k support the Crushers? guess there are fans in Brisbane who don't want to support the Broncos for whatever reason. I heard the same arguments when the idea of the Freo Dockers was muted, why bother when everyone supports the Eagles. The Dockers now avg 30K+ crowds.

Crushers got 20k+ to their first few games as they were new and the whole brand new novelty factor was there. By the end they were giving out free tickets and still struggling to crack 4k+.
 

Moz 1982

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I wish this bid would change it's name to Brisbane Brothers. The name has history, is original (in that no other pro sports teams carry this name), and is just a cool name for a sports team in general. After the debacle of the "West Coast Pirates" name, we need a team name with a bit of history.
 

Perth Red

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Crushers got 20k+ to their first few games as they were new and the whole brand new novelty factor was there. By the end they were giving out free tickets and still struggling to crack 4k+.


That had a heck of a lot more to do with teh SL war than lack of support. most teams dropped crowds from '96-'97. Despite this they still bettered Sth's and St George.
 

gyallop

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The Bear is right year 1 the figures were boosted by a few full houses Broncos and Auckland come quickly to mind but they had no real tribe to fall back on which was a huge problem. They had a big chance as the Broncos moved to QE11 which was a cut lunch trip from the CBD and lost a lot of crowd support but the Crushers didnt get those fans to Lang Park
 
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That had a heck of a lot more to do with teh SL war than lack of support. most teams dropped crowds from '96-'97. Despite this they still bettered Sth's and St George.

Super League was partly to blame, alot of it was them waving the white flag and not persisting with marketing themselves better. I went to about 3 of their games for free in 96-97 and paid for another 2 and what I did pay was bugger all really. They had a good junior set up though, one can't knock that.
 

Karl

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They don't have anything to differentiate them from the Bronco's. Thats why the Ipswich/Logan team is the best option.
 

bender

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Super League was partly to blame, alot of it was them waving the white flag and not persisting with marketing themselves better. I went to about 3 of their games for free in 96-97 and paid for another 2 and what I did pay was bugger all really. They had a good junior set up though, one can't knock that.

Like it or not, the Crushers going to the ARL instead of Superleague is what killed the crushers. Brisbane had little interest in the ARL competition because it didnt contain the Broncos. this might have changed if they were contenders but they simply werent.

When the crushers first came in, their 20,000 fans were not the socalled anti broncos fans (which is massively overated) but were in fact mostly existing Broncos fans wanting to watch a second game of football, which is where pretty much where all of the potential for any second Brisbane team will come from. There is no way around this, and if the side wants to take an anti bronco stance, it has no chance of getting any following unless it is immediately as successful as the broncos on the field. This is unlikely.

Brisbane 2, imo, gives nothing at all to Brisbane and is a failure waiting to happen, that will probably put expansion back. Brisbane arent ready for another team yet, despite what people think.

Brisbane would be far better served by forgetting a second NRL side and using the NRL Grant which will be given to a second brisbane side to promote and help the QRL competition. With the right promotion, this would see strong club sides like Redcliffe, Easts, Souths (Logan), Ipswich, Wynnum Manly all become strong localised clubs capable of drawing 1000 to 2000 crowds. With the right promotion of this competition, it has the potential to create its own excellent television ratings and Strong club setups can grow naturally over time. This would help the game of rugby league in the area far more than any second Brisbane team (or any of the other bids to be honest).
 

smithie

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Bombers NRL bid chief: sponsorship and TV deals make second Brisbane team a must

It has become apparent that whether or not the Australian Rugby League Commission opts to expand the number of teams in the NRL by 2015 will ultimately be determined by the impending broadcast deal.

It has been rumoured in the press that Channel 9 and Foxtel are eager to increase their viewing numbers in Queensland and, along with the Perth-based West Coast Pirates, a Queensland franchise is considered likely. There are three Queensland bids vying for contention and we have spoken previously to Central Queensland officials who believe the lack of sporting competition and the fanatical support for the code in their region makes them the right choice. A Western Corridor bid out of Ipswich declined to make time for interview; regardless they are considered a distance third in the pecking order.

Craig Davison, the founder of the Outdoor Furniture Specialists chain and a shareholder in the Brisbane Broncos, is the chief director of the Brisbane Bombers bid. He did make time to answer our questions.

Why should the Bombers be picked?

Davison says that the key strength of a second Brisbane team that its introduction would lead to a greater injection of sponsorship money into rugby league by providing potential sponsors in Brisbane opportunities that currently do not exist due to the exclusive nature of the Broncos’ sponsorship deals.

“The interesting fact here is that a lot of our sponsors have come to us and said ‘Look I want to put money into the Broncos but I’m locked out.’ Without a second team that money will go to union, soccer, AFL or other avenues. You bring that second team into Brisbane it opens up a whole series of commercial opportunities for rugby league.”

Similarly he believes that establishing a second NRL team in Brisbane will enable the ARLC to maximize the amount of money it can generate from the impending broadcast rights deal as it will expose broadcasters to the greatest number of viewers in an area that the bidding parties are reportedly eager to increase their audience numbers.

“The reports I’m getting from the TV people is that the ARLC has got to have two Brisbane teams playing so that there are two games every weekend with a Brisbane team, beamed into Brisbane,” Davison says. “It’s all about the numbers. It can’t be an external team it has to be Brisbane vs. Brisbane. At the moment, Brisbane only has 12 games a year and Sydney108 per year. That needs to be addressed.

“It is all about TV, these guys are the ones signing the billion dollar cheque; you’d like to think they’d have a little bit of a say in what goes on.”

Can Brisbane support another rugby league team and how do you plan to generate a new supporter base?

Critics of the Bombers bid have questioned the logic of placing a second team in Brisbane pointing out that the ARL introduced the South Queensland Crushers back in the 1990s and they were a financial flop that received very little fan support in a highly “pro-Broncos” town.

However, Davison claims this perception is invalid. He says Brisbane’s population growth in conjunction with dramatic changes to the rugby league landscape during the past 15 years means that it is unreasonable to use the Crushers’ demise during the mid-90s as an indicator of the future viability of a second Brisbane team.

“You cannot compare the two eras,” he says “We had one million people [living in Brisbane] back then, now we have 2.1 million,” says Davison.

“The game has matured so much, the TV rights are worth so much more meaning that the viability of another team in Brisbane is a no brainer.”

As for fostering a supporter base Davison says the Bombers have that covered also. He points out that according to rough surveys conducted recently, the Broncos have a 30 percent support base among rugby league fans in Brisbane.

“‘This means that 70 pecent of fans are attached to ‘non-Broncos’ teams,” Davison says. “So you have this group of people that simply aren’t aligned to any Brisbane based teams, only to Sydney teams. Some of these people have been in town for so long they want to grab onto something new and I think it’s fresh to have a brand new team and no associations with anyone else… I think we’ll have no problem at all in getting a supporter base”.

What is your ownership structure?

Like South Sydney, the Titans, the Storm and the Warriors the Brisbane Bombers will be a privately owned club, rather than a community owned club or a public company.

“We looked strongly into all three ownership models,” Davison says. “Out of the three we found that the best model was the private ownership model which focuses on the community and the juniors and a whole range of aspects which you’d sometimes struggle to support if you had a true community structure and all of a sudden found that you just weren’t getting enough funds coming in.

“The reality is no matter how much you talk about a community-owned business you’ve got to make money from day one and have a sustainable income to support your whole junior base program and your community program. Now, no disrespect to anyone running a community club but you’ve got to have some pretty strong ties behind you if you’re going to make it work.”

Where is the bid at with regards to recruitment?

Out of all the prospective bids the media has portrayed the Bombers to be the most active in regards to recruitment.

So far they’ve been linked to many high profile players and coaches such as Quade Cooper, David Shillington, Cooper Cronk and Mal Meninga among others.

Davison says these links are mainly media speculation but does concede that the Bombers have been in talks with a number of players and coaches.

“We’ve had so many approaches from player managers and coach managers, we’ve basically taken it all on board and said to them until we get a clear direction from the NRL as to expansion happening we can’t do much about it.

“Behind the scenes I’ve heard from a number of player managers that some players are lining their contracts up so that they finish in 2014 or if they’ve got longer term contracts negotiated get out clauses in 2014.”

Do the Bombers have a junior development program in place?

At this stage the Bombers are currently looking to develop a partnership with junior clubs in the Sunshine Coast Region.

“Sunshine Coast is a wonderful catchment,” Davison says. “We’re looking to have a partnership with the Sunshine Coast Falcons who have about 3000 to 4000 juniors.”

Should they get the licence the Bombers plan to talk to additional junior catchments in and around Brisbane, however, Davison says the Bombers are unlikely to form any additional allegiances until they’re guaranteed entry into the competition.

What corporate support do you have?

The Bombers already have a fair degree of corporate support with companies like Jeep, Austereo (b105), Bundaberg Distilling and Canterbury of New Zealand jumping on board. However, like many of the competing bids, Davison says while they have had discussions with a number of high profile companies, many of these companies are not willing to officially support the Bombers until the ARLC confirms expansion and guarantees the Bombers entry into the competition.

“A couple of large companies have said they are not interested in getting on board with us until we get nominated… but as soon as this happens they’ll be on board,” Davison says.

Anyone looking to learn more about the Brisbane Bombers can head to their website at: www.brisbanebombers.com.au

http://sportbizinsider.com.au/news/...nd-tv-deals-make-second-brisbane-team-a-must/
 

Lockyer4President!

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A Western Corridor bid out of Ipswich declined to make time for interview; regardless they are considered a distance third in the pecking order.
Petty much?

Like South Sydney, the Titans, the Storm and the Warriors the Brisbane Bombers will be a privately owned club, rather than a community owned club or a public company.
Souths aren't privately owned. Crowe just owns a majority iirc
 

El Diablo

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http://www.nrl.com/bombers-still-confident-of-nrl-bid/tabid/10874/newsid/69443/default.aspx

Bombers still confident of NRL bid

Wayne Heming and Steve Jancetic AAP Wed, Aug 22, 2012 - 7:15 PM

Brisbane Bombers expansion bid boss Craig Davison remains confident of getting a start in the NRL despite the ARL Commission seemingly pouring cold water on any increase of teams in the near future.

One of the key elements to arise from the $1.025 billion broadcast deal announced on Tuesday was the apparent disinterest from rights holders for more games.

"The indication through the discussions was that there was minimal value that we would see come through broadcast deal as a result of introducing two new teams," ARLC interim chief executive Shane Mattiske said.

"The fact that there isn't additional value that will come through the broadcast deal for a ninth game is a factor in the consideration of expansion.

"However there are a number of other things that we would look to in forming a view."

That view will be part of the game's strategic plan, which is currently being formed by the ARLC.

Davison is confident the need for an increased presence in Brisbane will form part of that plan, which would give broadcasters the possibility of having a game in the Queensland capital every weekend.

"I firmly believe Brisbane will get another team at some point in time and I believe that point of time will be sooner, rather than later," Davison told AAP.

He said Nine Network boss David Gyngell had noted in announcing the record TV rights seal that Brisbane was rugby league's "strongest market".

"He's clearly said previously that Brisbane needs another team," said Davison.

"I can't pre-empt what might or might not happen, but I certainly believe that when the strategic plan comes out it will give a much better indication of where (expansion) teams might go."

There had been speculation the ARLC would look to expand the competition as early as 2015, having previously stated it would look closely at the issue once a new broadcast deal was in place.

Seven consortiums - the NSW Central Coast, Papua New Guinea, Perth, Central Queensland, Western Queensland Corridor (Ipswich), Wellington and the Bombers - have expressed interest in being part of any expansion.
 
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Today's facebook announcement:


Brisbane Bombers
Confirming the Brisbane Bombers NRL Expansion Bid Team have signed an Agreement with the Brisbane Racing Club for the home training facility, gymnasium, football administration and corporate administration to be built in the billion-dollar revamp of Doomben / Eagle Farm

The partnership between the Brisbane Bombers and the BRC precinct would focus on a multi-use sporting complex for the wider community and provide a facility on minutes from the Brisbane Airport, Suncorp Stadium and Brisbane CBD. Plans are underway on the design and layout of the training facility and we look forward to having council sign off on the Master Plan for the precinct.

Suncorp Stadium have also signed off on the Agreement for the Brisbane Bombers to play home games at the Stadium upon admittance into the NRL.

Also announced was the formation of the twelve person Brisbane Bombers Advisory Board encompassing former Government officials, business and rugby league administrators and consultants to the BRC which has been in effect since July 2012.

This announcement has been presented in detail to the NRL Interim CEO Shane Mattiske for review along with the ARL Commission.

More to follow.
 

gyallop

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odds on the board contains Ross Livermore who was punted from the GM job at the QRL about 10 years too late! Big plans need big wallets and the Bombers and the states are empty so this is another big bomber statement with zero substance, we will still be watching grass at Doomben for years to come!!
 

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