Brisbane Jets

[MugaB]

I'm upset because after spending $3.5billion and lots of fluffing around the game is no better off than it was 8 years ago! In the heartlands or growing in expansion areas and continues to lose ground to our business rival. 2011 was when expansion first started to be talked about, here we are 10 years later and they still don't even know if they want another Brisbane team. Incompetency and self interest blights the game.

Yeah Ok PR, but who's number 10?
Wait Alice Springs..... we can call them the baby eatin' dingos

 

[flippikat]

Before PVL became Chairman, he demanded the ARLC keep the Sharks when they were broke, but says Brisbane 2 must sink or swim. Hardly a promising sign that everyone is equal.

^precisely THIS. It's a plain double-standard that an expansion team needs to jump a bar that incumbents can't clear.

In this scenario, the Sharks should have been asked to either relocate or drop to NSW Cup to vacate their top tier spot to allow expansion but keeping the competition at 16 teams.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

^precisely THIS. It's a plain double-standard that an expansion team needs to jump a bar that incumbents can't clear.

In this scenario, the Sharks should have been asked to either relocate or drop to NSW Cup to vacate their top tier spot to allow expansion but keeping the competition at 16 teams.

Double standards like this will lead to RL fans outside of NSW migrating to other sports or the interstate clubs forming Super League 2.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Correct, but i think there should be an entry fee, that way it will incentivise the league to branch out more, and the clubs will also want a cut of that, money money money, thats all these selfish brands want, with an buy in fee, that solves the issue of bidders half arsing their way into to the league, if you want in accrue your browny points and be willing to spend. The NRL can use a portion of it to buid a franchise in a market area they want in on but doesn't have league presence, aka Adelaide, or Singapore FFS

So you're all on board for all 16 licences to be reviewed, with each club having to pay a fee to prove they'll be financially viable over the COVID-19 period to ensure no team goes arse up during the middle of a season and requires a massive bailout from a broke ARLC?

Blah blah blah again spell checks back, oh sorry i didn't understand coz im Soooo much better at texting grammar than you are, the loganites here all laughed when i showed your post to them, bwahahaha
Listen trailer trash, if all your comebacks are to do with grammar, you're gonna have a hard life in front of you, especially when you land in Singapore...

Go team!!!
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We already did this last year, i remember posting MrT for you dumb ass, it must be turning into an annual event

Neither you nor @Jim Rockford are very bright or mature. Two emotional pests who break into a tantrum as soon as some one critiques Sydney's RL landscape.

 

[Jim Rockford]

Hahahaha the loser with the massive inferiority complex is accusing others of throwing tantrums.

 

[MugaB]

So you're all on board for all 16 licences to be reviewed, with each club having to pay a fee to prove they'll be financially viable over the COVID-19 period to ensure no team goes arse up during the middle of a season and requires a massive bailout from a broke ARLC?

Neither you nor @Jim Rockford are very bright or mature. Two emotional pests who break into a tantrum as soon as some one critiques Sydney's RL landscape.

No one is reviewing any of the current licences, nor will they, its the job of the ARLC to work as leadership of the competition, not merit each club on its worth, however its the ARLC who has been pushing expansion, not the current 16 clubs

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Before PVL became Chairman, he demanded the ARLC keep the Sharks when they were broke, but says Brisbane 2 must sink or swim. Hardly a promising sign that everyone is equal.

Sydney clubs are demanding an entrance fee to join the competition. Only the Dolphins and Firehawks can meet those demands, so that rules out Adelaide, Perth and NZ 2.

So where does the 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd and 24th licence go?

Its a ….

And Peter Vlandys is the head clown.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its a ….

And Peter Vlandys is the head clown.

PVL and the rest of the ARLC are steering a massive ship called RL into an iceberg and rearranging the 9 lifeboats on board to make sure only the Sydney clubs get a seat.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Double standards like this will lead to RL fans outside of NSW migrating to other sports or the interstate clubs forming Super League 2.

Unsure about another Super League as Murdoch actually does run the game now.

But right now the game has many parallels to the super league era..

Dominant and cannon fodder clubs
Blowouts and lopsided contests
Many clubs making losses n relying on support from the governing body.

Yesterdays Magpies are todays’ Tigers.

Yesterday’s Steelers are today’s Dragons (although the Steelers were at least competitive)

Yesterdays Chargers are today’s Titans

For many clubs the scenery might look a bit different but the basic situation hasn’t changed. They are inherently struggling each and every year to make a single dollar… it’s more like trying to stop the bleeding of losses..

Ive still got a club to follow, but now that I’m living outside Sydney I’ve got a different perspective on the NRL. Many things are the same as 25 years ago..

Geez, even Netball has a proper National competition…

 

[MugaB]

Unsure about another Super League as Murdoch actually does run the game now.

But right now the game has many parallels to the super league era..

Dominant and cannon fodder clubs
Blowouts and lopsided contests
Many clubs making losses n relying on support from the governing body.

Yesterdays Magpies are todays’ Tigers.

Yesterday’s Steelers are today’s Dragons (although the Steelers were at least competitive)

Yesterdays Chargers are today’s Titans

For many clubs the scenery might look a bit different but the basic situation hasn’t changed. They are inherently struggling each and every year to make a single dollar… it’s more like trying to stop the bleeding of losses..

Ive still got a club to follow, but now that I’m living outside Sydney I’ve got a different perspective on the NRL. Many things are the same as 25 years ago..

Geez, even Netball has a proper National competition…

Are we going "National" again, we just discussed about the brand name of this comp. It was mildly accurate in 1998, only Perth was underserved, *which in my opinion was a mistake, but still national, as soon as Melbourne was started up

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Are we going "National" again, we just discussed about the brand name of this comp. It was mildly accurate in 1998, only Perth was underserved, *which in my opinion was a mistake, but still national, as soon as Melbourne was started up

Two states / Major cities of Australia are not represented in the National Rugby League. To me - that contradicts the title of the governing body.

Much like when an NBA team wins a title and calls themselves "World Champions". They are a National (not International) competition. Thats more a player/fan/media thing - where ours is a actually a furphy in the governing body's name. In any other description - when the term "National" is used - it means nationwide.

national

1. relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to…

dictionary.cambridge.org

National - "relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to part of that country or to other countries"

We haven't got a true national competition in Rugby League. However,

Basketball - NBL
Football - A League
Netball - Super Netball
Australian Rules Football - AFL

All have representation in all mainland states / state capitals of Australia. the NBL will also have a team in Tasmania as of next year.

As for the NRL - it contradicts the very definition of it's own name. And until there are teams in Western Australia and South Australia - it will continue to do so.

 

[MugaB]

Two states / Major cities of Australia are not represented in the National Rugby League. To me - that contradicts the title of the governing body.

Much like when an NBA team wins a title and calls themselves "World Champions". They are a National (not International) competition. Thats more a player/fan/media thing - where ours is a actually a furphy in the governing body's name. In any other description - when the term "National" is used - it means nationwide.

national

1. relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to…

dictionary.cambridge.org

National - "relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to part of that country or to other countries"

We haven't got a true national competition in Rugby League. However,

Basketball - NBL
Football - A League
Netball - Super Netball
Australian Rules Football - AFL

All have representation in all mainland states / state capitals of Australia. the NBL will also have a team in Tasmania as of next year.

As for the NRL - it contradicts the very definition of it's own name. And until there are teams in Western Australia and South Australia - it will continue to do so.

I get all that, but in 1998 it was named such because it was in all major cities, barr perth, so i get where you're coming from, but back then that was fitting, especially since Melbourne was introduced,
And don't forget it was called the ARL prior to that, and had Auckland in the comp FFS

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

I get all that, but in 1998 it was named such because it was in all major cities, barr perth, so i get where you're coming from, but back then that was fitting, especially since Melbourne was introduced,
And don't forget it was called the ARL prior to that, and had Auckland in the comp FFS

Yep I hear you.

 

[Perth Red]

Two states / Major cities of Australia are not represented in the National Rugby League. To me - that contradicts the title of the governing body.

Much like when an NBA team wins a title and calls themselves "World Champions". They are a National (not International) competition. Thats more a player/fan/media thing - where ours is a actually a furphy in the governing body's name. In any other description - when the term "National" is used - it means nationwide.

national

1. relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to…

dictionary.cambridge.org

National - "relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to part of that country or to other countries"

We haven't got a true national competition in Rugby League. However,

Basketball - NBL
Football - A League
Netball - Super Netball
Australian Rules Football - AFL

All have representation in all mainland states / state capitals of Australia. the NBL will also have a team in Tasmania as of next year.

As for the NRL - it contradicts the very definition of it's own name. And until there are teams in Western Australia and South Australia - it will continue to do so.

dont forget water polo, ice hockey and baseball lol. Even Union has more representation in major states than League! Its dead set embarrassing and a real reflection on the games historic inability to spread.

 

[The Great Dane]

national

1. relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to…

dictionary.cambridge.org

National - "relating to or typical of a whole country and its people, rather than to part of that country or to other countries"

We haven't got a true national competition in Rugby League. However,

Basketball - NBL
Football - A League
Netball - Super Netball
Australian Rules Football - AFL

All have representation in all mainland states / state capitals of Australia. the NBL will also have a team in Tasmania as of next year.

As for the NRL - it contradicts the very definition of it's own name. And until there are teams in Western Australia and South Australia - it will continue to do so.

Cricket - BBL.
Baseball - ABL.
Ice Hockey - AIHL.
Field Hockey - Hockey One.

In other words there's no f**king ice in Australia yet the tiny minority sport of Ice Hockey still has a national comp while the supposed powerhouse that is RL doesn't.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Cricket - BBL.
Baseball - ABL.
Ice Hockey - AIHL.
Field Hockey - Hockey One.

In other words there's no f**king ice in Australia yet the tiny minority sport of Ice Hockey still has a national comp while the supposed powerhouse that is RL doesn't.

Ice Hockey... leading the way in true national expansion..

 

[The Great Dane]

Ice Hockey... leading the way in true national expansion..

It's one of the most underrated sports on the planet, so hopefully it takes over when RL dies.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

It's one of the most underrated sports on the planet, so hopefully it takes over when RL dies.

I actually like watching Ice Hockey. And since I've turned off RL I've started getting into Basketball.

And aside from the sport itself, part of the reason i really enjoy it is the commentary ISNT sensationalist, argumentative, rubbishing tripe that League has evolved to

 

[Perth Red]

Back to the thread. I find the merger idea interesting. How will the ownership be split? Will they be Jets or Firehawks or something else? Id have thought $80mill assets and $25mill start up cash would have been more than enough for the Firehawks to show low finanical risk to the NRL? Mind you Sattlers comments seem very vague and that it MAY be an option down the track. Sounds like Jets havent got the financial backing they need.


The Courier Mail’s Peter Badel is reporting that the Brisbane Jets and Brisbane Firehawks have sensationally opened merger talks to become the NRL’s 17th franchise.

The Jets and Firehawks are currently two of the three bidders hoping to become the next NRL club, alongside the Redcliffe Dolphins, but Badel believes they’re set to combine to take on the powerful Dolphins’ bid.

Having presented to the ARLC board earlier this week and with the Dolphins considered favourites, it’s believed that the Jets and Firehawks could combine to form a ‘super-bid’ as Badel puts it.

As a member of the Jets bid, SEN host Scott Sattler told listeners to “watch this space” on merger talks on SEN’s Pat and Heals.

“Everyone is looking at every option,” Sattler said.

“The Brisbane Jets’ first option is to first and foremost secure the financial guarantees.

“The meeting with the ARLC probably came a little earlier than we anticipated.

“That’s the first port of call for the Brisbane Jets, to solidify those injections of funds.

“Outside of that we’ve got to look at Plan B or Plan C.

“You’ve always got to have fall back solutions, and maybe talking to the Firehawks – we’re singing from the same hymn sheet and talking about the growth of the game in the Western corridor – so we’ll look at all options at the moment for the betterment of the game.

“Watch this space.”

Talks are expected to continue on Friday, with the decision to be potentially finalised before an ARLC board meeting early next week.

Sattler says “watch this space” as Brisbane Jets and Firehawks begin merger talks

Scott Sattler is an integral stakeholder in the Jets bid.

www.sen.com.au

 

[The Great Dane]

Back to the thread. I find the merger idea interesting. How will the ownership be split? Will they be Jets or Firehawks or something else? Id have thought $80mill assets and $25mill start up cash would have been more than enough for the Firehawks to show low finanical risk to the NRL? Mind you Sattlers comments seem very vague and that it MAY be an option down the track. Sounds like Jets havent got the financial backing they need.


The Courier Mail’s Peter Badel is reporting that the Brisbane Jets and Brisbane Firehawks have sensationally opened merger talks to become the NRL’s 17th franchise.

The Jets and Firehawks are currently two of the three bidders hoping to become the next NRL club, alongside the Redcliffe Dolphins, but Badel believes they’re set to combine to take on the powerful Dolphins’ bid.

Having presented to the ARLC board earlier this week and with the Dolphins considered favourites, it’s believed that the Jets and Firehawks could combine to form a ‘super-bid’ as Badel puts it.

As a member of the Jets bid, SEN host Scott Sattler told listeners to “watch this space” on merger talks on SEN’s Pat and Heals.

“Everyone is looking at every option,” Sattler said.

“The Brisbane Jets’ first option is to first and foremost secure the financial guarantees.

“The meeting with the ARLC probably came a little earlier than we anticipated.

“That’s the first port of call for the Brisbane Jets, to solidify those injections of funds.

“Outside of that we’ve got to look at Plan B or Plan C.

“You’ve always got to have fall back solutions, and maybe talking to the Firehawks – we’re singing from the same hymn sheet and talking about the growth of the game in the Western corridor – so we’ll look at all options at the moment for the betterment of the game.

“Watch this space.”

Talks are expected to continue on Friday, with the decision to be potentially finalised before an ARLC board meeting early next week.

Sattler says “watch this space” as Brisbane Jets and Firehawks begin merger talks

Scott Sattler is an integral stakeholder in the Jets bid.

www.sen.com.au

I don't see what's in a merger for the Firehawks. Unless it's basically just the Bombers backers becoming minority owners in the Firehawks and Ipswich becoming a glorified feeder it'd just result in a confused shitshow of a club.

This shit in the media about Easts having less assets than the Dolphins is crazy as well. The difference is negligible for the purposes of supporting an NRL club, and there's more to running a successful footy club than just having a lot of money behind it.