Brisbane Jets

[MugaB]

FFS...

If it's the NRL then you need to have a presence in all major metropolitan areas, which you're against if your post is anything to go by.

Reserving 50% or more of the NRL's licences to one city that has demonstrably proven it cannot support them is the definition of insanity and allowed AwFuL to overtake us in all departments in our alleged heartland.

The A-League failed to become a major player in this country because it is competing with EPL, Serie A, Spanish La Liga and Bundesliga for attention from Australian soccer fans who want to see world class players, not 5th rate plodders. RL in this country doesn't have this problem as the NRL is the world's supreme RL competition.

No one gives a f**k about Sydney NRL clubs outside of NSW. If they did then the NRL wouldn't be pulling just 15k viewers across Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth on 9GEM when 2 Sydney clubs are playing.

Its just like no one in Nsw, gives a fk about logan, QLD, THE BRL, THE QRL, or any expansion club for that matter....
Im not against expansion, im all for it, as long as the game expands, and it will, the comp started with around 8 teams in 1908,
Eventually 13 by 1980s, we got to 22 teams in 1998, we can get to 18 by 2027, and will continue to expand.... but it won't do it at the cost of any of its current brands...not anymore, and you're crying for less teams, instead of more expansion teams to even the amount of interstate vs Nsw, the AFL has the same amount of VIC teams in its comp as the NRL has NSW teams, and if you think they are successful, then we can be too...
Its just more about targeting areas that play the game first before expanding to places that aren't upto the standard of the current brands areas, you cant be cutting off your nose to dispise your face...
The NATIONAL Rugby League was named that, as it was in 6 of the 7 metropolitan areas in aus, plus a nz team.
Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Gold coast, Canberra, add Auckland in NZ and Newcastle it's a pretty national spread, yes Perth folded, but without them it was still pretty national

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well, according to you it can only call itself National if it has a presence in all major metropolitan areas (which it doesn't). Or maybe you just want to apply rules to us that don't apply to others.

It does have a presence in its major metropolitan areas. Only a select few teams are based regionally, and that's due to them entering when the NFL was in its start-up years and have since grown large enough to justify their spot in the league. Sydney's smaller clubs have not grown and are a liability.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its just like no one in Nsw, gives a fk about logan, QLD, THE BRL, THE QRL, or any expansion club for that matter....
Im not against expansion, im all for it, as long as the game expands, and it will, the comp started with around 8 teams in 1908,
Eventually 13 by 1980s, we got to 22 teams in 1998, we can get to 18 by 2027, and will continue to expand.... but it won't do it at the cost of any of its current brands...not anymore, and you're crying for less teams, instead of more expansion teams to even the amount of interstate vs Nsw, the AFL has the same amount of VIC teams in its comp as the NRL has NSW teams, and if you think they are successful, then we can be too...
Its just more about targeting areas that play the game first before expanding to places that aren't upto the standard of the current brands areas, you cant be cutting off your nose to dispise your face...
The NATIONAL Rugby League was named that, as it was in 6 of the 7 metropolitan areas in aus, plus a nz team.
Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Gold coast, Canberra, add Auckland in NZ and Newcastle it's a pretty national spread, yes Perth folded, but without them it was still pretty national

This is beyond delusional and cherry picking at its worst.

Queensland isn't over saturated like Sydney, so it's stupid comparing its 3 teams with Sydney's 9. Besides, Queensland's 3 teams have modern stadia and room to grow, with at least two of them being among the NRL's most watched clubs and a genuine money-making asset to the ARLC. Most Sydney clubs play out of shitholes, draw bugger all fans through the gate and are amongst the least watched teams on TV, which makes them a f**king liability.

You keep on comparing Sydney's 9 NRL teams with Melbourne's 9 AwFuL clubs, but there are key differences between the two. All 9 of Melbourne's AwFuL clubs draw higher attendances than Sydney's largest NRL club and have way more members. Melbourne Storm are bigger than many of Sydney's NRL clubs. Sydney Swans are bigger than every Sydney NRL club. Sydney has had 113 years to draw support around its clubs, yet despite every leg-up they've been given through pokies from the 1950s, the NSWRL and money from broadcast deals, they're still failures putting their hand out for assistance to survive. If they were in the NFL or NBA they would have been cut loose decades ago.

 

[MugaB]

This is beyond delusional and cherry picking at its worst.

Queensland isn't over saturated like Sydney, so it's stupid comparing its 3 teams with Sydney's 9. Besides, Queensland's 3 teams have modern stadia and room to grow, with at least two of them being among the NRL's most watched clubs and a genuine money-making asset to the ARLC. Most Sydney clubs play out of shitholes, draw bugger all fans through the gate and are amongst the least watched teams on TV, which makes them a f**king liability.

You keep on comparing Sydney's 9 NRL teams with Melbourne's 9 AwFuL clubs, but there are key differences between the two. All 9 of Melbourne's AwFuL clubs draw higher attendances than Sydney's largest NRL club and have way more members. Melbourne Storm are bigger than many of Sydney's NRL clubs. Sydney Swans are bigger than every Sydney NRL club. Sydney has had 113 years to draw support around its clubs, yet despite every leg-up they've been given through pokies from the 1950s, the NSWRL and money from broadcast deals, they're still failures putting their hand out for assistance to survive. If they were in the NFL or NBA they would have been cut loose decades ago.

No ones cherry picking, i hate you, logan and Qld, but i still want the game to expand.
Your just incompetent and think that shinking the 5 million population of the heartland clubs in Sydney will somehow improve the game, it wont, it hasn't in the past, nor should it be tampered with again.
Relocation on the other hand, maybe one or two max, but destroying via demoting a brand, from any club in the NRL, will ruin the game, expand by expansion, addition to the 16 clubs, not subtraction....
Ask wayne bennett, clubs weren't needing this huge amount of funding as we have now 30 years ago, yet we had 20 teams...
Its mind blowing how much tunnel vision you possess regarding the comp, you'd think you're an AFL supporter, you hate the comp, but want the best for it in some strange weird club killing way... anyways until next bi polar theory from you, ive had enough of your dumb "what if's" of the past, eat your cookies and shut the f**k up

 

[Jim Rockford]

It does have a presence in its major metropolitan areas. Only a select few teams are based regionally, and that's due to them entering when the NFL was in its start-up years and have since grown large enough to justify their spot in the league. Sydney's smaller clubs have not grown and are a liability.

WRONG! The NFL does not have a presence in all major metropolitan areas in the US. Not even close.

 

[MugaB]

WRONG! The NFL does not have a presence in all major metropolitan areas in the US. Not even close.

Yeah but grotd's world national rugbyleague should be in perth and if it isn't, then its just not national rugby league.... sadface

List all the metro areas in Australia
Brisbane .check
Sydney .check
Melbourne. Check
Adelaide. Check
Gold Coast .check
Canberra .check
Perth, Hobart , Darwin...bomb boow
I think they were national enough when it was named

 

[Perth Red]

Pretty sad there's only 10 major places in the country and the NRL can't even cover them off (in fact only covering 2/3rds of a very small number)!

Part of the expansion problem is the cost of running an NRL club. WhyTF is it costing $30mill a year to run a club? If expenditure for clubs was capped at $20mill with a $9mill salary cap and $11mill grant then suddenly the NRLs revenue goes much further, more places become more viable, more money for grassroots etc etc. The current arms race between clubs to spend what they dont have is the biggest impediment to growth.
You could centralise memberships, marketing, merchandise, game day experience etc with NRL taking responsibility to create better efficiencies in those areas and have more quality and consistency between the haves and have nots. Imagine if ALL clubs were actually making a profit to put aside for rainy days!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

WRONG! The NFL does not have a presence in all major metropolitan areas in the US. Not even close.

NFL have teams in the country's largest and most lucrative markets.

They have 11 markets of 1m or more and a total of 9 teams across seven of them. The 4 cities that don't have a team are part of states that already do have a team.

Largest US Cities by Population 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeah but grotd's world national rugbyleague should be in perth and if it isn't, then its just not national rugby league.... sadfaceView attachment 52882

List all the metro areas in Australia
Brisbane .check
Sydney .check
Melbourne. Check
Adelaide. Check
Gold Coast .check
Canberra .check
Perth, Hobart , Darwin...bomb boow
I think they were national enough when it was named

LOL SMH...

NRL doesn't have team in ADELAIDE!

 

[MugaB]

LOL SMH...

NRL doesn't have team in ADELAIDE!

Nope not anymore, howabout a history lesson tool.....
it did in 1998, you know when they called this PREMIER competition the NRL

 

[MugaB]

Pretty sad there's only 10 major places in the country and the NRL can't even cover them off (in fact only covering 2/3rds of a very small number)!

Part of the expansion problem is the cost of running an NRL club. WhyTF is it costing $30mill a year to run a club? If expenditure for clubs was capped at $20mill with a $9mill salary cap and $11mill grant then suddenly the NRLs revenue goes much further, more places become more viable, more money for grassroots etc etc. The current arms race between clubs to spend what they dont have is the biggest impediment to growth.
You could centralise memberships, marketing, merchandise, game day experience etc with NRL taking responsibility to create better efficiencies in those areas and have more quality and consistency between the haves and have nots. Imagine if ALL clubs were actually making a profit to put aside for rainy days!

Who's number 10? Geelong, Bourke, Newcastle, Wollongong, oh i know Mackay

Seriously your just upset coz Perth doesn't have a team, it will eventually, and all the bitchin about not expanding quick enough, wont speed things up... you watch once they push through the 1st team, its going to be like the immortals night, they'll go from 8 to 13, V'Dog (and i know how much you hate him) will streamline expansion so well that the comp will hit 22-24 teams by the time he ready to step away from being chairman.
All depends on what assets the NRL builds towards after this pandemic passes, if i know uncle nick, he is diversifying as we speak, that guy is a billionaire that breaths RL, and sydney and wants RL to rule to roost.
I think we are lucky to have him as a backer, even though i despise the roosters

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nope not anymore, howabout a history lesson tool.....
it did in 1998, you know when they called this PREMIER competition the NRL

They did have one in Perth between 95-97, but you left that one off the list. They may not have competed in the NRL, but they played 3 seasons compared to Adelaide's 2. Both teams should still be here and would be if it wasn't for Arthurson, Quayle, NSWRL and News Ltd putting a Sydney before the greater good.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Who's number 10? Geelong, Bourke, Newcastle, Wollongong, oh i know Mackay

Seriously your just upset coz Perth doesn't have a team, it will eventually, and all the bitchin about not expanding quick enough, wont speed things up... you watch once they push through the 1st team, its going to be like the immortals night, they'll go from 8 to 13, V'Dog (and i know how much you hate him) will streamline expansion so well that the comp will hit 22-24 teams by the time he ready to step away from being chairman.
All depends on what assets the NRL builds towards after this pandemic passes, if i know uncle nick, he is diversifying as we speak, that guy is a billionaire that breaths RL, and sydney and wants RL to rule to roost.
I think we are lucky to have him as a backer, even though i despise the roosters

Before PVL became Chairman, he demanded the ARLC keep the Sharks when they were broke, but says Brisbane 2 must sink or swim. Hardly a promising sign that everyone is equal.

Sydney clubs are demanding an entrance fee to join the competition. Only the Dolphins and Firehawks can meet those demands, so that rules out Adelaide, Perth and NZ 2.

So where does the 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd and 24th licence go?

 

[MugaB]

They did have one in Perth between 95-97, but you left that one off the list. They may not have competed in the NRL, but they played 3 seasons compared to Adelaide's 2. Both teams should still be here and would be if it wasn't for Arthurson, Quayle, NSWRL and News Ltd putting a Sydney before the greater good.

I dont care, i said N.R.L dumbass.
Adelaide was there, end of story, dont weasel your way out of misreading posts, just assume the position and eat your cookie

 

[MugaB]

Before PVL became Chairman, he demanded the ARLC keep the Sharks when they were broke, but says Brisbane 2 must sink or swim. Hardly a promising sign that everyone is equal.

Sydney clubs are demanding an entrance fee to join the competition. Only the Dolphins and Firehawks can meet those demands, so that rules out Adelaide, Perth and NZ 2.

So where does the 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd and 24th licence go?

And hear we go again? These licences will go to those bidders willing to pay the entrance fees... fk me its pretty simple...
If the N.R.L want an Adelaide based club, and there is no bidders, but they still want it they'll build it, ala titans, ala storm. You're pretty dull, i wrote this in the post you quoted


Btw the clubs are not equal, and never will be, and thats not a sydney centric issue either

 

[Perth Red]

Point of order: There is no entry fee. NRL is looking for a cash guarantee to ensure if the new club gets in trouble they have money in the bank to bail themselves out (Mainly as the NRL spent the bail out money last year bailing out the clubs from covid and has nothing left in the bank).

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I dont care, i said N.R.L dumbass.
Adelaide was there, end of story, dont weasel your way out of misreading posts, just assume the position and eat your cookie

Your posts are a rambling mess full of spelling errors, poor punctuation and terrible structure. You didn't say "National Rugby League", which was the name of the competition and a proper noun, and reads very differently to "nationalrugbyleague", which I assumed to be a type of rugby league around the nation as you used three common nouns without using a space between the words. Learn the basics of the English language.

And hear we go again? These licences will go to those bidders willing to pay the entrance fees... fk me its pretty simple...
If the N.R.L want an Adelaide based club, and there is no bidders, but they still want it they'll build it, ala titans, ala storm. You're pretty dull, i wrote this in the post you quoted


Btw the clubs are not equal, and never will be, and thats not a sydney centric issue either

The NRL doesn't want an Adelaide or Perth team and publicly stated so last year, so stop bringing up theoreticals which you know have zero chance of coming true to support your baseless position.

Brisbane 2 shouldn't have to pay an entrance fee.

You're right about one thing though. Teams like the Broncos, Storm, Cowboys, Parramatta and Rabbitohs are more important to the NRL and its broadcast partners than small Sydney clubs like Cronulla, Manly, Knights, Warriors, Penrith, and Canterbury, which is evident by TV ratings, financials and stadia. If the game were to lose clubs like the Broncos, Storm, Cowboys, Knights, Raiders, Titans, Warriors, Eels, Roosters and Rabbitohs then the value of its broadcast rights would diminish significantly.

 

[Perth Red]

Who's number 10? Geelong, Bourke, Newcastle, Wollongong, oh i know Mackay

Seriously your just upset coz Perth doesn't have a team, it will eventually, and all the bitchin about not expanding quick enough, wont speed things up... you watch once they push through the 1st team, its going to be like the immortals night, they'll go from 8 to 13, V'Dog (and i know how much you hate him) will streamline expansion so well that the comp will hit 22-24 teams by the time he ready to step away from being chairman.
All depends on what assets the NRL builds towards after this pandemic passes, if i know uncle nick, he is diversifying as we speak, that guy is a billionaire that breaths RL, and sydney and wants RL to rule to roost.
I think we are lucky to have him as a backer, even though i despise the roosters

I'm upset because after spending $3.5billion and lots of fluffing around the game is no better off than it was 8 years ago! In the heartlands or growing in expansion areas and continues to lose ground to our business rival. 2011 was when expansion first started to be talked about, here we are 10 years later and they still don't even know if they want another Brisbane team. Incompetency and self interest blights the game.

 

[MugaB]

Point of order: There is no entry fee. NRL is looking for a cash guarantee to ensure if the new club gets in trouble they have money in the bank to bail themselves out (Mainly as the NRL spent the bail out money last year bailing out the clubs from covid and has nothing left in the bank).

Correct, but i think there should be an entry fee, that way it will incentivise the league to branch out more, and the clubs will also want a cut of that, money money money, thats all these selfish brands want, with an buy in fee, that solves the issue of bidders half arsing their way into to the league, if you want in accrue your browny points and be willing to spend. The NRL can use a portion of it to buid a franchise in a market area they want in on but doesn't have league presence, aka Adelaide, or Singapore FFS

 

[MugaB]

Your posts are a rambling mess full of spelling errors, poor punctuation and terrible structure. You didn't say "National Rugby League", which was the name of the competition and a proper noun, and reads very differently to "nationalrugbyleague", which I assumed to be a type of rugby league around the nation as you used three common nouns without using a space between the words. Learn the basics of the English language.

The NRL doesn't want an Adelaide or Perth team and publicly stated so last year, so stop bringing up theoreticals which you know have zero chance of coming true to support your baseless position.

Brisbane 2 shouldn't have to pay an entrance fee.

You're right about one thing though. Teams like the Broncos, Storm, Cowboys, Parramatta and Rabbitohs are more important to the NRL and its broadcast partners than small Sydney clubs like Cronulla, Manly, Knights, Warriors, Penrith, and Canterbury, which is evident by TV ratings, financials and stadia. If the game were to lose clubs like the Broncos, Storm, Cowboys, Knights, Raiders, Titans, Warriors, Eels, Roosters and Rabbitohs then the value of its broadcast rights would diminish significantly.

Blah blah blah again spell checks back, oh sorry i didn't understand coz im Soooo much better at texting grammar than you are, the loganites here all laughed when i showed your post to them, bwahahaha
Listen trailer trash, if all your comebacks are to do with grammar, you're gonna have a hard life in front of you, especially when you land in Singapore...

Go team!!!

We already did this last year, i remember posting MrT for you dumb ass, it must be turning into an annual event