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Broncos could lose McGuire

bottle

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gUt if that's your missus DO NOT post a picture of her lingerie on the line. Or is that the nosy Christian biddy?
 

Mr Fourex

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Dont you live in Sydney mate? ;-)

Yes.....adds credibility to what I was saying

does it not....?


Keep your head in the sand all you like, does not change the fact that this is the primary reason that your club is able to retain many players.

Funny how over the years Brisbane have lost just as many talented players as well. .......

Petero Civoniceva.....Brent Tate, Ben Hannant, David Stagg, Michael Ennis, Darius Boyd, Greg Eastwood, Joel Moon, Dave Taylor, Shaun Berrigan, Brad Thorn and Karmichael Hunt

Israel Folau.....etc etc

You'd be fully aware that not only Brisbane have tripped over the salary cap line at some stage Johnsy

I don't hear you volunteering your 2010 Premiership back because you were 15K over the cap last season........:sarcasm:
 

Mr Fourex

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Yet, outside this thread barely anyone is actually talking about the Donkeys. Most of us couldn't care less, I doubt many at all are scared of a Lockyerless Donkey's team.

No..... the talk is all about Hasler and how he has shit all over your scummy club :lol:

who won in the GF again???

oh that's right, Manly

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_Johnsy

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Funny how over the years Brisbane have lost just as many talented players as well. .......

Petero Civoniceva.....Brent Tate, Ben Hannant, David Stagg, Michael Ennis, Darius Boyd, Greg Eastwood, Joel Moon, Dave Taylor, Shaun Berrigan, Brad Thorn and Karmichael Hunt

Israel Folau.....etc etc

You'd be fully aware that not only Brisbane have tripped over the salary cap line at some stage Johnsy

I don't hear you volunteering your 2010 Premiership back because you were 15K over the cap last season........:sarcasm:

I am well aware brisbane have lost many players.

As I wrote, the thoroughbreds are the primary reason you retain players, not the Brisbane lifestyle. I thought that would have been obvious from my post. Maybe you could read my response to your post, hopefully it will sink in the 2nd time you read it.
 

Big Pete

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Seems like the NRL was comfortable with the Thoroughbreds arrangement following their investigation into the club and Nissen's comments in court. Nothing sus there, just something to fuel the tin-foil hat wearers.
 

_Johnsy

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Seems like the NRL was comfortable with the Thoroughbreds arrangement following their investigation into the club and Nissen's comments in court. Nothing sus there, just something to fuel the tin-foil hat wearers.

BP

Nissen refused to even speak with the auditors & NRL, therefore the NRL could not gather any evidence.

I expected a bit more integrity/honesty from a fan such as yourself. The thoroughbreds have been crafty enough to have no "official" affiliation with the Broncos, therefore they can do as they please re: payments to players.

You and I know what goes on, Nissen gave evidence to that effect while under oath. It happens and they (Thoroughbreds & club) get away with it. I think it's morally wrong, but meh it happens. Are you saying this is all a conspiracy theory and you refuse to believe wht your former CEO stated under oath ?
 

Big Pete

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Nissen had no obligation to speak to the Schubert and the Broncos CEO spoke candidly and co-operated completely with the NRL and Schubert.

They were fine with the information they had and had no further reason to pursue.
 

_Johnsy

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Nissen had no obligation to speak to the Schubert and the Broncos CEO spoke candidly and co-operated completely with the NRL and Schubert.

They were fine with the information they had and had no further reason to pursue.

I think you'll find Nissen stated he had no intention of speaking to the NRL, you could argue he had a moral obligation. The CEO told the NRL the thoroughbreds had no offical involvement with the Broncs. The full extent of the co-operation you seem to know all about, I would question how anyone would know to what extent. Not too different to the Melbourne Storm players having no legal obligation to speak with auditors.

As I said it happens and it is common knowledge as it is on public record and available through QLD courts hansard. They found a loophole & good on them.

I can live with it but as a RL fan it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I am sure all brisbane fans are happy to accept this arrangement and pretend the club does not have this advantage over other clubs.

Denying this is the case is classic head in the sand stuff.
 

Big Pete

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What's stopping other clubs from forming their own group?

If the NRL is fine with the Thoroughbreds, than they'll be fine with any other organisation.
 

_Johnsy

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What's stopping other clubs from forming their own group?

If the NRL is fine with the Thoroughbreds, than they'll be fine with any other organisation.

Probably a bit tougher when you are not the only team in one city. Brisbane the 3rd most populous city in Australia and have one single team.

Fair point re: other clubs. Some would be able to form such groups others would not. i am sure Tinkler will be doing exactly this over the next few years.
 

Big Pete

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That's basically my view, I don't have any issues with the club having this advantage, as long as it's fine with the NRL.

What gets me is, either way, Brisbane fans can't win. We celebrate our success, it's because we're a one city team and NSW don't have such a luxury but then when you suggest culling sides or looking elsewhere than the Central Coast then it's looked at as some anti-NSW rhetoric. I don't think you're guilty of this, but I find it slightly amusing that such a viewpoint exists.
 

_Johnsy

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It exists because many clubs have fallen by the wayside. If a club dies a natural death then fine, but when you have people (fans of new clubs) saying this club or that club should be relocated or punted then you are going to get people defending their clubs right to exist. Especially when you have clubs that are more than 100 years old and others that have such a rich history are forced to merge if they want to survive, and a club is borne from greed $$$$ (Melbourne).

Super league destroyed the very fabric of the game in Sydney, like it or not the NRL will always have it's strongest ties to the birthplace of topflight RL in this country, Sydney.

People from brissy often talk about their responsibility of honoring & respecting and not forgetting the traditions of RL in QLD, is it too much to ask that all RL fans do this of Sydney clubs ?
 

Kiwi

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This is typical, when it suits the Broncos are a crap team, bt now they are all stars on big bucks ect, because that suits the current arguement.
 

_Johnsy

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This is typical, when it suits the Broncos are a crap team, bt now they are all stars on big bucks ect, because that suits the current arguement.

What a load of crap. When have Brisbane been a crap team ? Exactly what argument is it currently?


Continue making shyte up.
 

Big Pete

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Speaking of sacrifices, you do realise Queensland made one of the biggest to expand the game? To try and paint us as new fans who haven't paid their dues is silly.

And it's all fine and good if those fans want to fight for their existence, but on the other hand they shouldn't complain about a side like the Broncos doing the right thing and moving the game forward.
 

Big Pete

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This is typical, when it suits the Broncos are a crap team, bt now they are all stars on big bucks ect, because that suits the current arguement.

:lol: yep. Not as common anymore since Bennett left (don't Rugby League fans hate him) but back in the day, whenever the Broncos were in a slump all their players were old and useless, shouldn't be allowed to play rep. football and Wayne should just give it away.

Then when the Broncos win it's because they were all experienced rep. players, it'd be a choke if they didn't and Wayne can't win without the Broncos.
 

_Johnsy

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Speaking of sacrifices, you do realise Queensland made one of the biggest to expand the game? To try and paint us as new fans who haven't paid their dues is silly.

And it's all fine and good if those fans want to fight for their existence, but on the other hand they shouldn't complain about a side like the Broncos doing the right thing and moving the game forward.

Exactly what sacrifice did QLD make, a few powerbrokers decided to join the NSWRL competition, to the demise of the local Brisbane rugby league competition. They killed that comp. I wasn't painting Brisbane fans as new fans (an incorrect assumption on your part).

If the broncos were so concerned about moving the game forward, why did they demand there was not to be another team in SE QLD after the SL war. They did what they could to kill off the crushers so they could have a monopoly on brisbane. i think you are looking through rose coloured glasses mate.
 

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