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Bulldog Fans!!!!

ouwet

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Another game involving the Bulldogs, another drama with crowd behaviour. One has to wonder when it will stop and how much of what is broadcast by the mainstream media is reality opposed to ratings-promoting hyperbole.

The drama this time is about the South Sydney Cheerleaders being called a number of unsavoury names as they walked past the opposition - in this case, the Bulldogs - supporters' bay. The claim, as made by an a listener to Ray Hadley's 2GB show and repeated by said broadcaster, is that a number of unacceptable comments were made to the cheerleaders and that one cheerleader was hit by a crowd member in the collarbone with a can of drink.

As a Bulldogs supporter who was sitting in the "opposition" supporters' bay, I saw no such incident. The people I was at the football with saw no such incident. This is not to say it didn't happen, just that we saw nothing extraordinary. A look around the Bulldogs unofficial forums such as The Kennel and the Bulldogs Debate Page will give you a similar sense of "what the?". And, more importantly, the unofficial Rabbitohs forum, The Pride, also has a number of contributors suggesting no such thing happened.

However, that's not entirely what this piece is all about. What, more importantly, it is about is dispelling the myth that every game involving the Bulldogs is a life-threatening experience.

Whilst some of the mainstream media are quick to jump on the comments about bad experiences, you don't see much when the Bulldogs fans are being lauded for good behaviour and a good atmosphere being created. At the Easter Monday home game for Souths, there would have been a 3 to 1 ratio of Bulldogs fans to Rabbitohs faithful in an almost 20,000 strong crowd. Below is just a sample of some of the comments coming from Souths fans who post on The Pride ...

"Were very well behaved. I walked with and caught the train home with many of them and not one said a word to me, my partner or my friends." - 2035

"My family and I were bagged a few times on the way back to our car(on the other side of Parramatta Rd) but it was generally lighthearted.I just couldnt believe how many of them there were.We were well and truly outnumbered by what seemed to be 5 to 1!" - squadrito

"I have never ever had a problem with Dogs supporters and once again yesterday I had no probs- after the game myself and a few mates went for drinks and a few Dogs supporters were there also and there was just a bit of light hearted banter. I really don't see the problem with the majority of our fans. I've seen plenty more Souths fans worse than Bulldogs fans. " - Mr 100%

And the funny thing is, we see this kind of feedback all the time. After our away trip to Newcastle, message boards had plenty of praise for the Bulldogs supporters who made the trek up the F3, as well as a note from Knights CEO Ken Conway praising the Bulldogs fans. The same came out after the game in Canberra just last week. Yet, there are elements of the mainstream media who would have the public believe that good behaviour is the exception and not the rule.

Something that bothers me is the mere fact I felt the need to even write this piece. Whilst I will acknowledge that the Bulldogs fanbase have some highly undesirable elements that seem to hang on the fringes or even hardcore regulars who occasionally go over the top, it is not nearly what is portrayed by an increasingly vindictive mainstream media. The fact that headline space is even being given to this "cheergirl" allegation is just another indication of how the Bulldogs brand is being used to sell papers and increase ratings by whatever means necessary. I have seen far, far worse than what has been alleged occur at Bulldogs home games with our cheergirls being the target and our opposition fans the perpetrators - yet not an inch of column space nor a minute of talkback time has been used to cover it.

I hope that increasing chorus of Rugby League fans from ALL CLUBS who are beginning to realise what is happening and the effect this is having on the game begin to find their voice. Some of the Rabbitohs faithful have had their say, and I doubt it'll be the last time fans from a club opposing the Bulldogs will have something similar to say.


Greatest And Biggest Support Base IN SYDNEY!!!! BULLDOGS FOR LIFE.
 

Timmah

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ink, El, go for your lives. Make as little sense as you can...

NOW.
 

legend

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How about some of the things that go unreported by the media?

I went to watch the Dogs v Eels in either 2003 or 2004 at Telstra. I took my wife and nephew and upon returning to Lidcombe station on the train, an all in brawl broke out at Lidcombe station between Bulldogs fans.

Fans were running from everywhere to get involved in the melee. It was disgraceful. I scoured the papers and radio the following day and there was nothing in the media anywhere.

And the funny thing is, we see this kind of feedback all the time. After our away trip to Newcastle, message boards had plenty of praise for the Bulldogs supporters who made the trek up the F3, as well as a note from Knights CEO Ken Conway praising the Bulldogs fans. The same came out after the game in Canberra just last week. Yet, there are elements of the mainstream media who would have the public believe that good behaviour is the exception and not the rule.

No offence but this made me laugh. It's like the Dogs fans are craving acceptance by the fans of every other NRL team and this situation reminds me of a kid in school who craves praise for his good deeds but when it's not forthcoming, he mucks up even more.

No other teams fans need a letter of commendation for good behaviour.
 

Hari Kari

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LebaneseForces said:
Another game involving the Bulldogs, another drama with crowd behaviour.

Whilst some of the mainstream media are quick to jump on the comments about bad experiences, you don't see much when the Bulldogs fans are being lauded for good behaviour and a good atmosphere being created.

Are you a new Australian or did you come down in the last shower? Perhaps you were born yesterday?

The papers don't report about crowds that act normally or behave themselves because that's what most people in this country expect to happen, it's not news, it doesn't sell.

However, when you have a crowd like the Bulldogs do, who continually cause disruptions and don't know the meaning of the word behave, obviously it's going to be something people will be interested in hearing about, hence the papers and other media outlets jumping on those stories.

Gayest And Most Violent Support Base IN SYDNEY!!!! BULLDOGS ARE TERRORISTS!!
You can say that again!
 

Timmah

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Hari Kari said:
Gayest And Most Violent Support Base IN SYDNEY!!!! BULLDOGS ARE TERRORISTS!!

You can say that again!

Grow up. You had some credibility and made a point or two before spouting that immature racist bullsh*t.
 

gregstar

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Another game involving the Bulldogs, another drama with crowd behaviour. One has to wonder when it will stop and how much of what is broadcast by the mainstream media is reality opposed to ratings-promoting hyperbole.

The drama this time is about the South Sydney Cheerleaders being called a number of unsavoury names as they walked past the opposition - in this case, the Bulldogs - supporters' bay. The claim, as made by an a listener to Ray Hadley's 2GB show and repeated by said broadcaster, is that a number of unacceptable comments were made to the cheerleaders and that one cheerleader was hit by a crowd member in the collarbone with a can of drink.

As a Bulldogs supporter who was sitting in the "opposition" supporters' bay, I saw no such incident. The people I was at the football with saw no such incident. This is not to say it didn't happen, just that we saw nothing extraordinary. A look around the Bulldogs unofficial forums such as The Kennel and the Bulldogs Debate Page will give you a similar sense of "what the?". And, more importantly, the unofficial Rabbitohs forum, The Pride, also has a number of contributors suggesting no such thing happened.

However, that's not entirely what this piece is all about. What, more importantly, it is about is dispelling the myth that every game involving the Bulldogs is a life-threatening experience.

Whilst some of the mainstream media are quick to jump on the comments about bad experiences, you don't see much when the Bulldogs fans are being lauded for good behaviour and a good atmosphere being created. At the Easter Monday home game for Souths, there would have been a 3 to 1 ratio of Bulldogs fans to Rabbitohs faithful in an almost 20,000 strong crowd. Below is just a sample of some of the comments coming from Souths fans who post on The Pride ...

"Were very well behaved. I walked with and caught the train home with many of them and not one said a word to me, my partner or my friends." - 2035

"My family and I were bagged a few times on the way back to our car(on the other side of Parramatta Rd) but it was generally lighthearted.I just couldnt believe how many of them there were.We were well and truly outnumbered by what seemed to be 5 to 1!" - squadrito

"I have never ever had a problem with Dogs supporters and once again yesterday I had no probs- after the game myself and a few mates went for drinks and a few Dogs supporters were there also and there was just a bit of light hearted banter. I really don't see the problem with the majority of our fans. I've seen plenty more Souths fans worse than Bulldogs fans. " - Mr 100%

And the funny thing is, we see this kind of feedback all the time. After our away trip to Newcastle, message boards had plenty of praise for the Bulldogs supporters who made the trek up the F3, as well as a note from Knights CEO Ken Conway praising the Bulldogs fans. The same came out after the game in Canberra just last week. Yet, there are elements of the mainstream media who would have the public believe that good behaviour is the exception and not the rule.

Something that bothers me is the mere fact I felt the need to even write this piece. Whilst I will acknowledge that the Bulldogs fanbase have some highly undesirable elements that seem to hang on the fringes or even hardcore regulars who occasionally go over the top, it is not nearly what is portrayed by an increasingly vindictive mainstream media. The fact that headline space is even being given to this "cheergirl" allegation is just another indication of how the Bulldogs brand is being used to sell papers and increase ratings by whatever means necessary. I have seen far, far worse than what has been alleged occur at Bulldogs home games with our cheergirls being the target and our opposition fans the perpetrators - yet not an inch of column space nor a minute of talkback time has been used to cover it.

I hope that increasing chorus of Rugby League fans from ALL CLUBS who are beginning to realise what is happening and the effect this is having on the game begin to find their voice. Some of the Rabbitohs faithful have had their say, and I doubt it'll be the last time fans from a club opposing the Bulldogs will have something similar to say.


Greatest And Biggest Support Base IN SYDNEY!!!! BULLDOGS FOR LIFE.

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i have my head in the sand, we are the victims, the problems will solve themselves so stop highlighting them.
 

Cammo

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gregstar said:
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i have my head in the sand, we are the victims, the problems will solve themselves so stop highlighting them.

You sound like Nathan Brown
 

El Diablo

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gregstar said:
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i have my head in the sand, we are the victims, the problems will solve themselves so stop highlighting them.

indeed

perhaps we should start a telethon to raise money for the poor sods
 

mattyg

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talking about unreported incidents...what about the fan who tackled the mascot at shark park this year in the roosters vs sharks game. or even better the bulldog mascot last year at the gold coast game that was tackled by a drunk cowboys supporter, and seriously injured. None of these incidents were in the news. can you imagine what would happen if it was a bulldogs supporter who tackled a mascot?

there are many other incidents that happen every week that go unreported. It seems to me that every time we start winning again then all the crap comes our way.
 

ozzy_ozman

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i there on monday watching the game sttng in the dogs army and i dont believe there were any objects thrown onto the field other than torn up newspapers and blue and white streamers...

and since when are you allowed to bring in a metal can to a sporting venue?
 

ouwet

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Hari Kari said:
Are you a new Australian or did you come down in the last shower? Perhaps you were born yesterday?

The papers don't report about crowds that act normally or behave themselves because that's what most people in this country expect to happen, it's not news, it doesn't sell.

However, when you have a crowd like the Bulldogs do, who continually cause disruptions and don't know the meaning of the word behave, obviously it's going to be something people will be interested in hearing about, hence the papers and other media outlets jumping on those stories.


You can say that again!

ARE YOU A NEW AUSTRALIAN? OR JUST AN IDIOT??? What's it too you what i am?? Racist scum like yourself are a disgrace to Australia.
 

ouwet

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mattyg said:
talking about unreported incidents...what about the fan who tackled the mascot at shark park this year in the roosters vs sharks game. or even better the bulldog mascot last year at the gold coast game that was tackled by a drunk cowboys supporter, and seriously injured. None of these incidents were in the news. can you imagine what would happen if it was a bulldogs supporter who tackled a mascot?

there are many other incidents that happen every week that go unreported. It seems to me that every time we start winning again then all the crap comes our way.

I've seen a half bottle of fanta thrown by a Tiger's supporter in Wollongong hit a cheerleader flush on the nose, the poor girl was bleeding. I've seen old grannies in Newcaslte verbally abuse opposition supporters with the most disgusting and racist crap i've ever heard... Anzac game (Roosters V St George) last year how many people got ejected? quiet a few!!! Shall i go on? I can do it all day if you like.

BUT WAIT Alcohol is a legitimate excuse to you guys AYE just like the idiots in Cronulla... OOOOH but i was drunk:roll: The Hypocrisy in the media and here is disgusting!
 

drake

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Unfortunately for decent dogs fans, the wannabe gangster trash that goes to your games has made your bed, now you all have to lie in it. Whether or not the accusations are true, you will be guilty until proven innocent.

It's a deeper social issue than just football games, and until these mixed up sad thugs are dealt with by the proper authorities for there behaviour outsides games, the NRL and the stadiums can do jack. I mean, if the cops can't nail these bastards, what can a football entertainment corporation do?

What about setting up a stall with "Free Sick Gangsta Tattoos" outside the games and then lock the gates when all the wannabe Tupacs are lining up?
 
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its true that other incidents dont get mentioned, but as long as our fans behave themselves the papers wont have anything to write...
 

ouwet

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drake said:
Unfortunately for decent dogs fans, the wannabe gangster trash that goes to your games has made your bed, now you all have to lie in it. Whether or not the accusations are true, you will be guilty until proven innocent.

It's a deeper social issue than just football games, and until these mixed up sad thugs are dealt with by the proper authorities for there behaviour outsides games, the NRL and the stadiums can do jack. I mean, if the cops can't nail these bastards, what can a football entertainment corporation do?

What about setting up a stall with "Free Sick Gangsta Tattoos" outside the games and then lock the gates when all the wannabe Tupacs are lining up?


HAHAHA Great Idea!!! Don't forget 50 cent as well (They all seem to like this guys music for some reason:? )... But yeah i guess your right:(
 

drake

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LebaneseForces said:
HAHAHA Great Idea!!! Don't forget 50 cent as well (They all seem to like this guys music for some reason:? )... But yeah i guess your right:(
Please, 50 cent is not music. It's a moron droning to a beat. And I quite like Tupac, just don't want to be him. I like breathing.

Seriously though, you mob need to get together and work out how to get these 'tards out of your games. I wouldn't suggest a physical measure, they seem like honourless cowards that would knife you in the back.

Maybe spread rumours of a fight at an vacant lot far from the game.
 

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