Bulldog Will Hopoate will not play rugby league on Sundays for religious reasons

[McLovin]

To sum up this thread

- Not a single bulldogs fan upset
- I don't believe in God and here's why you shouldn't either

This

 

[Dogs Of War]

Fair enough, mate. Hope you're club's not struggling for depth on grand final day.

I think finals he will make exceptions for as his religion allows. I get that he so he can follow his faith, amd it obviously affects him for it to get to this point, that for him to feel true to himself that he wanted to sit out Sunday's.

It's great that he has the courage to stick to his convictions and go down this path. Another bonus is that if he is sitting out these matches he will be refreshed and hopefully be better at the backend of the season.

Just don't give us too many Sunday games in the lead up to the finals.

And maybe we will pick up heaps of Mormon footy supporters, though once again don't give us Sunday's games cause they can't attend.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I think finals he will make exceptions for as his religion allows. I get that he so he can follow his faith, amd it obviously affects him for it to get to this point, that for him to feel true to himself that he wanted to sit out Sunday's.

It's great that he has the courage to stick to his convictions and go down this path. Another bonus is that if he is sitting out these matches he will be refreshed and hopefully be better at the backend of the season.

Just don't give us too many Sunday games in the lead up to the finals.

And maybe we will pick up heaps of Mormon footy supporters, though once again don't give us Sunday's games cause they can't attend.

Mate, get what you're sayin' and all and fair play to him but if he makes exceptions for finals, isn't he just copping out?

 

[McNulty]

There is so much wrong with this.

Firstly, Hopoate has no right being a footballer unless he can commit to the days required. Go be a brick layer or a night club bouncer and earn your living that way.

Can't play Sundays!!! We all know how important continuity and combinations are. That all goes out the window with this in the picture now.

What if we miss out on the top for by a couple points. What if we miss out on the top 4 on for and against. Same scenario but top 8?

What if any of our finals (semis or GF) fall on a Sunday? Does his God say "Thou shalt not work on Sundays except if it is the NRL finals series"? lol what a f**king joke!! Seriously.

The players train hard to turn up on game days. This guy gets a free pass.

How much are we paying him too?

What about Sunday recovery sessions? Does he skip this too.

I don't blame his religion. I don't blame him for having his faith as misguided as it may be. I blame our club. Raeleen is a dead set moron.

 

[Galeforce]

Unbelievably, a bloke has a belief (I don't care what that is) to stand by his faith and is getting verbally belted by posters.

You pricks are the stone throwers in history.

Good luck to him for having the nutz to stand by what he believes in.

I think the "stone throwers" were all the Zealous ones. The majority of us just watch and comment on the zealous ones.

Hoppa can do what he likes as long as it does not affect the way i want to live.As for Sunday , i think time has identified it as a random day which falls after a day called saturday in a 7 day week made up by man.Man has decided on at least one TV game at 4pm on sunday and i am happy with that.

 

[Bretto]

"These are my morals for regular season, but for the finals I'll change my mind"?

Not a chance.

 

[McNulty]

I think finals he will make exceptions for as his religion allows. I get that he so he can follow his faith, amd it obviously affects him for it to get to this point, that for him to feel true to himself that he wanted to sit out Sunday's.

It's great that he has the courage to stick to his convictions and go down this path. Another bonus is that if he is sitting out these matches he will be refreshed and hopefully be better at the backend of the season.

Just don't give us too many Sunday games in the lead up to the finals.

And maybe we will pick up heaps of Mormon footy supporters, though once again don't give us Sunday's games cause they can't attend.

NO NO NO.

Why the exception? Why does GF, semi final etc change the fact that it is a sunday and he has to go to work?

 

[McNulty]

I think the "stone throwers" were all the Zealous ones. The majority of us just watch and comment on the zealous ones.

Hoppa can do what he likes as long as it does not affect the way i want to live.As for Sunday , i think time has identified it as a random day which falls after a day called saturday in a 7 day week made up by man.Man has decided on at least one TV game at 4pm on sunday and i am happy with that.

I am a Bulldogs supporter and I want to live in a world where the Bulldogs have every opportunity to field their strongest possible line-up every week

 

[Foreign Legion]

Gee... its getting a bit heated, how about we get back to talking about football... or just close this chat down ... its getting abit full own

 

[Bring it home Knights]

Anyone on here who is pushing for religion to be respected and deemed true needs to ask themselves these questions:

1. If religion is based on truth, then why does every religion champion faith (believing in things without evidence)?

2. Do you follow the same religion as your parents (indoctrination)?.

3. If god created the universe, who created god?

4) Why is there no evidence for the existence of Jesus outside the bible when there were historians around at the time of the so called miracles?

5) How is the bible reliable when it was written decades after the so called events took place, not to mention the chopping and changing that kings did to it over centuries?

6) As an overall rule, why does religion appeal to the less intelligent and less educated?

 

[TheVelourFog]

Anyone on here who is pushing for religion to be respected and deemed true needs to ask themselves these questions:

1. If religion is based on truth, then why does every religion champion faith (believing in things without evidence)?

2. Do you follow the same religion as your parents (indoctrination)?.

3. If god created the universe, who created god?

4) Why is there no evidence for the existence of Jesus outside the bible when there were historians around at the time of the so called miracles?

5) How is the bible reliable when it was written decades after the so called events took place, not to mention the chopping and changing that kings did to it over centuries?

6) As an overall rule, why does religion appeal to the less intelligent and less educated?

you aren't gonna get any answers that will satisfy you from the people that have put all their eggs in the religion basket

It is faith, facts and logic need not apply

 

[GongPanther]

I worship Brian out of the Life of Brian.

Brian tells me I must watch the movie every Friday night.

So that means I do not watch FNF ever.

Cheers,

Biggus Dickus

It's pronounced "Bigguth---[longish pause]---->Dickuth" :lol:

 

[GongPanther]

It's pretty selfish to be honest - To give up on playing on Sundays for something that is made up. Do other people get the same privilege for made up things?

And this is your belief?

 

[Bretto]

I think the "stone throwers" were all the Zealous ones. The majority of us just watch and comment on the zealous ones.

Hoppa can do what he likes as long as it does not affect the way i want to live.As for Sunday , i think time has identified it as a random day which falls after a day called saturday in a 7 day week made up by man.Man has decided on at least one TV game at 4pm on sunday and i am happy with that.

I'm sure you're saying that from a place of ignorance and don't really mean it. I mean, this idea that anyone can do whatever they want unless it doesn't impact on them or their way of life is to not recognise the plight of other humans.

By that logic, I can commit genocide freely, as long as it doesn't affect the way you want to live. I can rape and steal, as long as I don't affect you.

This type of thinking is to disregard all other human life in favour of your own.

 

[Bretto]

And this is your belief?

Is what my belief? That religion is made up?

 

[Bring it home Knights]

I mean, this type of faith and thinking is constrained by common sense in every other domain of discourse. Just take for example, the people who think Elvis is still alive. What is wrong with this claim? Why is this claim not vitiating our academic departments and corporations? It's very simple: we haven't passed laws against believing Elvis is still alive. The problem is whenever someone seriously represents his or her belief that Elvis is still alive, on a first date, at a lecture or at a job interview, he or she immediately pays a price in ill concealed laughter and that is a good thing. He or she could then rattle on and say that this is not a scientific claim and it's just a matter of faith, Elvis answers philosophical questions for me, etc.

I mean, this idea that a person needs faith to believe in anything, philosophical or otherwise, fails to reason objectively.

I think the best thing that you can do is give Sam Harris some credit when you borrow his quote word for word

 

[GongPanther]

If you want to believe in some made up stories, that's fine, but do so in your own home, in your own time, and acknowledge that it's made up bullcrap. Don't bring it into work or force it upon other people.

Then,according to your theory,you yourself shouldn't be forcing the above opinion,which is your belief.

Self contradictory.

 

[Bretto]

I think the best thing that you can do is give Sam Harris some credit when you borrow is quote word for word

I should have! I will edit my post actually.

 

[Bretto]

Then,according to your theory,you yourself shouldn't be forcing the above opinion,which is your belief.

Self contradictory.

How do you figure? My assertion is that religion is made up. This is objectively verifiable by the 30,000+ religions world wide whom all claim to have the truth. This isn't just my belief, but an objectively reasoned assertion.

If you wanted to argue that idea, you would need to provide evidence that religion isn't made up.

Have fun.

 

[GongPanther]

How do you figure? My assertion is that religion is made up. This is objectively verifiable by the 30,000+ religions world wide whom all claim to have the truth. This isn't just my belief, but an objectively reasoned assertion.

If you wanted to argue that idea, you would need to provide evidence that religion isn't made up.

Have fun.

And,as I stated before,and with respect,this IS your belief as people of fait have theirs.

Religious people,and non Religious people have beliefs.