Cannings to the front row, Cayless to the back row.

[Eelementary]

Here's my few cents:

(1) Cannings will be great. He's fast, very strong and has plenty of aggro.

(2) Cayless moving to the second row? Foolish and good at the same time.

Foolish because his one-on-one defence against other props might be missed. Good because (IS IT JUST ME?) Cayless doesn't seem to be such a hard runner of the ball anymore. His hit-ups never seem to damage the opponents.

(3) If I could have my way, my second row would be Hindy and Hopkins, with Muckert at lock. Good, solid, strong pack.

 

[Hurriflatch]

Cayless can always still swtich to prop and Vella into the 2nd row or start Vella from the bench and have Hindy, Hopkins and Muckert start.

There a lot more options this year

 

[The Godfather]

Put Hindmarsh on the bench until about the 20 min mark and then unleash him on the tiring opposition forwards.

 

[half]

Put Hindmarsh on the bench until about the 20 min mark and then unleash him on the tiring opposition forwards.

no way

hindy wouldn't have such an impact that you could justify keeping him off the fiend for 20 minutes. he's so good that he must play the 80 minutes

 

[The Colonel]

Put Hindy on the field for the full eighty or the majority at least and rotate Cayless and Armit in the second row. Another two props on the bench (Cannings, Tsoulos)also allows greater rotation at 8 and 10.

 

[PB]

Put Hindmarsh on the bench until about the 20 min mark and then unleash him on the tiring opposition forwards.

Thats almost as good an idea as Vella being in the Centres! ;-)

I remember when Smith used to play Jason Smith off the bench, and the number of people (myself included), who wanted to throttle him for leaving our best player off the field at the start of the game. Well times that by 1000 if Smithy didnt start Hindmarsh.

heck I would then join the sack Smith chorus if that ever happened...

 

[Pazza]

Foolish because his one-on-one defence against other props might be missed. Good because (IS IT JUST ME?)

You cant still be a really hard hitter in defence and play in the second row. Some of the hardest hitters in the game such as Morley, Wiki and Tallis all play second row.

 

[Pazza]

My Pack

8.Cannings
9.Morris
10.Vella (still has alot to offer interms of speed and mobility in defence)
11.Hindmarsh
12.Cayless
13.Hopkins

15.Kaufusi
16.Armit
17.Tsoulos

 

[The Engineers Room]

Hey I forgot Muckert.

There is the lock option. But playing Cayless in the second row means that second rowers will have to work much harder to get a spot. I think trials should be a real mix up. Plenty of experiment is needed. Who knows whether certain options will work or not. BURT AS HALFBACK I SAY!!!

 

[PARRA_FAN]

So then why not leave Cayless in the front row, if we need the 2nd Rowers to work hard to get their spot. I think Cayless will have a big season in the front row, just like in 2001.

Eelementry, the problem with Cayless last year was that we didnt see enough of him, he broke his arm in the beginning of the season, and didnt return till round 23. So I think he'll go really well this year, I just think moving him into the 2nd Row is good but he wont have the same impact he had in the front row.

I'd say leave him where he is, hes going well so why move him.

 

[Eelementary]

Ideally, Hindmarsh and Cayless should play as much as possible. I have a feeling Cannings will be awesome, but since I haven't yet seen him in the blue and gold, I will say that Caylo and H-man - the two most important forwards for Parramatta - must play as much as is possible.

Their defence and attack is superb, plus they lead by example and inspire greatness in their teammates.

Plus as Brian said last year (it isn't a direct quote because I don't remember it in its entirety), "Nathan [Hindmarsh] just has this ability to pop up anywhere when he is needed most."

 

[Eelementary]

Pazza

I know that Morley, Wiki and co. play second row and such.

I meant more that CAyless is one of the best in our team at stopping rampaging props one-on-one. If he plays slightly wider, he wouldn't be as involved at tackling props.

But still. As long as Cayless is in the team I don't care where he plays.

 

[Pazza]

I am sure that Cannings and Vella will do a good job at stoping Rampaging props.

 

[The Colonel]

Not necessarily Eelementary. Ian Hindmarsh tended to play in a lot closer when he was here and I would think Cayless would take on a similar role. Cayless is our enforcer - and he needs to enforce like Deano did. If he makes 20-25 tackles a game and has the opposition looking he has done his job - if he puts Lyon or Grothe away out wide we have a bonus! At prop he has two jobs - to defend and hit it up the guts. In the second row his main priority is to defend in tight and hit the ball up out wide and create for the three quarters. I'd prefer him on the field a lot more too especially as captain.

 

[Pazza]

For Cayless to be successful in the second row this year Vella really needs to step up. If Cannings and Vella can have good seasons then Cayless will do a good job in second row.

 

[The Colonel]

For Cayless to be successful in the second row this year Vella really needs to step up. If Cannings and Vella can have good seasons then Cayless will do a good job in second row.

I find it disconcerting when everyone talks about props they leave Pearson out. I have no doubt that Cannings will be a champion players as will Tsoulos however we have one of the best metre monsters at our disposal in Corey. He is not going to set the world on fire but he has good hands and hits the advantage line hard everytime - guaranteed 100+ metres every game. The young props in our club and even Cayless and Vella for that m,atter can learn a lot from this ugly bloke. Mark my words - Pearson will have a sizeable contribution to how our season pans out.

 

[The Engineers Room]

So then why not leave Cayless in the front row, if we need the 2nd Rowers to work hard to get their spot. I think Cayless will have a big season in the front row, just like in 2001.

Eelementry, the problem with Cayless last year was that we didnt see enough of him, he broke his arm in the beginning of the season, and didnt return till round 23. So I think he'll go really well this year, I just think moving him into the 2nd Row is good but he wont have the same impact he had in the front row.

I'd say leave him where he is, hes going well so why move him.

Don't agree, I think the front row is also full. Cannings would be one of my choices but as for the other spot it is just too hard to say who will impress enough to take it.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

Surely Pearson isnt a better prop than Cayless. If he plays front row the season, he'll have a great year. But if he plays 2nd Row the whole season, he wont have the same impact as he normally does. Vella should be the one playing 2nd row, not Cayless.

I think Chris Armit would be a good 2nd row along with Hindmarsh. He's a good workhorse and sorta reminds me off Ian Hindmarsh. Thats what you need, a wide running 2nd row and a workhorse 2nd Row. Cayless is a workhorse but is more suited to the front row.

 

[The Colonel]

Surely Pearson isnt a better prop than Cayless.

Definitely not but he adds some experience to a young front row rotation. He may well be just like "The Bear" in 1981...... 8)

 

[The Engineers Room]

Surely Pearson isnt a better prop than Cayless.

Definitely not but he adds some experience to a young front row rotation. He may well be just like "The Bear" in 1981...... 8)

What you seem to ignore is that the front row is not just two meat heads and a hooker anymore, it is a rotation. Bench players are vital.