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Captain's Challenge is a go in 2017 - 7th Tackle

I Bleed Maroon

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http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sp...h-tackle-reports-captains-challenge-for-2017/

Reeling all season from refereeing dramas, the game copped an unwanted sequence of body blows during the first weekend of finals action.

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The multitude of blunders that cruelled the Titans, combined with the failure to check Josh Morris’s legitimate touch down, sent fans into previously unfathomable layers of lather.

As the fire raged around them, NRL officials kept thinking back to the previous weekend – and their incident-free trial of the Captain’s Challenge in the meaningless Dragons-Knights clash.

Under the new rule, whistleblowers were unable to refer tries to the bunker unless one of the captains challenged their rulings.

Ten tries were posted – and not one was referred. And every decision was correct – a remarkable ten out of ten.

What the NRL learned from the experiment is that putting the onus back on the players has a genuine capacity to release officials from levels of pressure that are clearly crippling them, not to mention impairing their general decision-making ability.

We’re hearing there’s now a very real chance the concept will be embraced fulltime next year; with both captains to receive two unsuccessful challenges per half.

There’s also a chance the challenges will be renewed in the final ten minutes, when decisions can be particularly crucial.

The ultimate decision will be made by the NRL’s Competition Committee at the end of the year.

We can’t support the idea enough; given how well the concept has been embraced in cricket and tennis.

After this year, it can't come soon enough.
 

Pete Cash

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In cricket a vastly slower game it doesnt work and just passes the buck to the captains. It essentially forces the captain to field at slip and umpire the game while doing all the other things captains are expected to do

In rugby league a faster game it just sounds even worse.

The role of ref shouldnt be placed on the players imo
 

Big Salad

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There’s also a chance the challenges will be renewed in the final ten minutes, when decisions can be particularly crucial.

That would be ridiculous. If a team wastes their challenges earlier in the half, that is their bad judgement and bad luck.

And calling the trial "incident-free" ignores the inability to refer the last penalty in that Dragons-Knights game which was a questionable one.

Not sure if the captain's challenge will stand up under scrutiny any better than the present system, but worth a shot if it means giving them back their confidence in their decision making.
 

Apey

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Leave it for Cricket/Tennis thanks.

KFC won't stand for it anyway.
 

Timbo

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I'm on board, but I think it should be a coaches challenge. In cricket the captain stands in the slips and can see the whole game, or corresponds with the keeper for advice.

The coach can see the whole field and make the call.
 

Shorty

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Yeah cant see this being anything but glorified video ref/bunker.
 

Rabbit toes

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Imagine how good the game could be again if the video ref/bunker/captains challenge was abolished.

Back to the on field refs decision only.

The game would have a massive weight off its shoulders
 
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Jetka100

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Not sure what the rules were around it in the Newcastle game, but as long as it is limited to tries only. I would also give a directive to the bunker that on field referee decisions on obstruction and double movement can only be overturned when it is blatant and there is overwhelming evidence that it has occurred, not just on some balance of probabilities. Allow obvious forward passes to be ruled on as well. Make sure captains only have a short time to make the call as well.
 

Twizzle

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Based on the source of that article, I think there is very little chance of this happening.
 

insert.pause

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Will not happen. The moment a team can't challenge a try, seen on replays as being blatantly wrong, just because they ran out of challenges, and there will be hell to pay.
 

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Imagine how good the game could be again if the video ref/bunker/captains challenge was abolished.

Back to the on field refs decision only.

The game would have a massive weight off its shoulders
Yep, because broadcasters are just going to stop replaying everything as well....
 

TheVelourFog

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so after challenges are used up we go back to refs getting things wrong on the field again because we aren't able to use the technology available to us?

purposely limiting the one thing that can help us get things right rather than improving said system

who the hell comes up with these ideas?
 

bileduct

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What an utter capitulation from the NRL.

In one year we've gone from the bunker that was going to revolutionise the game with quicker, better decisions to leaving it up to the players to check if the referees made a mistake.
 

simmo1

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So how long until a captain challenges a decision, the video ref wrongly fails to overturn it, and then it costs the team again later in the game as they can't challenge an obviously wrong call. I give it till round 2.
 

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