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Captain's challenge system

Quidgybo

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And? And????

Complete silence.

How did the Captain's Challenge trial go? There has been a complete media blackout since the trial was conducted in the Toyota Cup. No newspaper reports, no online video, no discussion here.

How many times was it called in the match? Was the referee found right or wrong? How were the decisions announced? How did it impact the flow of the game? Did wrong decisions still get missed or go unchallenged?

Leigh.
 

El Diablo

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And? And????

Complete silence.

How did the Captain's Challenge trial go? There has been a complete media blackout since the trial was conducted in the Toyota Cup. No newspaper reports, no online video, no discussion here.

How many times was it called in the match? Was the referee found right or wrong? How were the decisions announced? How did it impact the flow of the game? Did wrong decisions still get missed or go unchallenged?

Leigh.
sure i read something about it being trialed again recently

can't find the article
 

Quidgybo

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Exactly.

It was trialled in the Gold Coast vs Manly Toyota Cup game on the 1st September. LiveNRL.tv doesn't provide access to Toyota Cup matches so I didn't get to see it but I believe that game was shown on Fox Sports in Oz.

Did anyone see it on TV or at the ground? I've seen absolutely nothing since about how it went.

Leigh.
 

carlosthedwarf

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Exactly.

It was trialled in the Gold Coast vs Manly Toyota Cup game on the 1st September. LiveNRL.tv doesn't provide access to Toyota Cup matches so I didn't get to see it but I believe that game was shown on Fox Sports in Oz.

Did anyone see it on TV or at the ground? I've seen absolutely nothing since about how it went.

Leigh.

I was travelling and saw the replay of the second half the other night. Mark Braybrook mentioned something about how the Titans skipper (I think) was the first to use it, but said the fact hey cant challenge a ruling made by the video referee so it's not much use. Plus the Titans got belted so I don't think anyone noticed.
 

The_Savage_1

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i had this game recorded and finally watched it last night. manly belted the titans and this contributed to not many challenge opportunities.

there were two challenges, both by manly i believe, one in each half.

the first one the referee ruled manly lost the ball in the tackle. manly challenged and the call was reversed as it was ruled he never lost it in the first place. the interesting part of this was that play continued by manly getting a scrum feed with a full set of six instead of playing the ball and tackle count continuing. this needs to be looked at.

the second one the referee ruled manly stripped the ball from the titans, which manly challenged. it appeared that the first manly player might have stripped it one on one before the second tackler became involved but it was very close and the original ruling stood.
 

Dufmack

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get rid of the video ref altogether and just have the coaches challenge, then I could live with it.

Understandable put is there anything more exciting then the crisp silence of a stadium then the pure joy as the green "TRY" comes up on the screen. A real underrated part of the game.
 

LineBall

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Understandable put is there anything more exciting then the crisp silence of a stadium then the pure joy as the green "TRY" comes up on the screen. A real underrated part of the game.

You could still have this. It would only happen if the challenge was regarding the awarding of a try.

IMO the video ref should only come into play when a challenge is called, as is done in tennis.

All decisions are to be made by the on field officials as they see it.
 

aads

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This will be used by coaches and Captains to slow down game play - bad idea -

keep the game simple

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LineBall

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This will be used by coaches and Captains to slow down game play - bad idea -

keep the game simple

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How?

If your challenge is just to delay the game, then most likely your challenge will be ruled unsuccessful, and then you have no more challenges left in that half.
 

BigSteveo

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the first one the referee ruled manly lost the ball in the tackle. manly challenged and the call was reversed as it was ruled he never lost it in the first place. the interesting part of this was that play continued by manly getting a scrum feed with a full set of six instead of playing the ball and tackle count continuing. this needs to be looked at.

I think this goes back to the clause in the law book that says that if the referee accidently blows his whistle than a scrum is to be awarded to the attacking team. Although i suppose it is not an accident of the referee believes he has made the correct decision and then is overruled.
 

aads

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How it can slow down the game - i think some captains or coaches will be just as willing to do a call when their guys are under the pump to save a probable try by the enemy by giving their guys a break.

In a year or so after it happens everyone will hate it mark my words

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El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ptains-challenge/story-fnca0von-1226731147718

Impetus builds for captain's challenge

Stuart Honeysett
The Australian
October 02, 2013 12:00AM

THE NRL is moving closer to adopting a captain's challenge system next season to alleviate pressure on its own match officials and turn the heat back on to players, coaches and clubs.

The system was discussed yesterday after NRL referees boss Daniel Anderson announced leading referees Shayne Hayne and Ben Cummins had been appointed to control Sunday's grand final between the Sydney Roosters and Manly at ANZ Stadium.

The system has been trialled in the Holden Cup this year with great success and the NRL is now gathering feedback from all 16 NRL clubs before a recommendation is put to the NRL Competition Committee.

"It has been modified as the season has gone on and has been used in the playoff series very successfully," Anderson said.

"Certainly we have enough evidence and samples now to make an informed decision, which is what the program was always set up to be."

Under the system, each captain would be allowed one unsuccessful challenge per half plus an extra one for a golden-point game.

The system is already used in other sports, including cricket, and the NRL has noted that Australian captain Michael Clarke was forced to admit during the recent Ashes series that the team had been guilty of wasting its challenges.

The push for a captain's challenge gathered momentum at the start of the finals when Cronulla was awarded a seven-tackle try in an elimination final against North Queensland. The decision contributed to the Cowboys losing the game 20-18.

The only concern over the scheme is that it would add more stoppage time to a game that already has enough through video referee decisions.

The NRL hopes that, if implemented, it can cap the stoppage time for a captain's challenge at 90 seconds.

NRL general manager football operations Nathan McGuirk said yesterday the system had succeeded in the Holden Cup finals. "We could have had teams potentially eliminated off the back of a referee's error which on review was changed and we got the right decision. That's the clear positive aspect of the captain's challenge."

Anderson said his officials had steadily improved since the seven-tackle try howler and he was confident there would be no more hiccups in Sunday night's decider.

Hayne said neither he nor Cummins would be second guessing their decisions in the decider. They will be joined by video referees Luke Patten and Ashley Klein, and touch judges Steve Carrall and Russell Turner.

"If we started to think about those sort of things you're not going to go out there and do your job the way you need to," Hayne said.
 

El Diablo

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saved the Tigers from losing to the Broncos in a golden point finals game in the Holden Cup

twice penalties were overturned under the captain's challenge which would have given an easy shot at a penalty goal
 

thorson1987

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The push for a captain's challenge gathered momentum at the start of the finals when Cronulla was awarded a seven-tackle try in an elimination final against North Queensland. The decision contributed to the Cowboys losing the game 20-18.

What a load of shit.

The players wouldn't have known so wouldn't have used the captains challenge.
 

beave

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What a load of shit.

The players wouldn't have known so wouldn't have used the captains challenge.

Not exactly true mate. Paul Bowman was up in the coaches box doing the game stats on a computer and identified immediately to Neil Henry that they were on the 7th tackle. If this captains challenge system was allowed, I'm sure a messaged could be relayed out to the trainers via radio headset pretty quickly to get one of the captains to challenge the try being awarded.
 

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