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Central Coast Bears - Stand Aside

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adamkungl

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If I was gonna choose 4 teams at once (which simply won't happen, 1995 is still fesh in a lot of peoples memories, it simply diluting the talent way too much) CQLD still wouldn't get a run. spot 4 would go to Wellington, Christchurch or Port Moresby.
 

dgsfan

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You only need the look at the 2nd QLD AFL team to realise that 3 NRL teams is not enough. Next 2 teams have to include a QLD team, then the no brainer of the Reds. CC should wait until the Sharks fold.
 

BunniesMan

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You only need the look at the 2nd QLD AFL team to realise that 3 NRL teams is not enough. Next 2 teams have to include a QLD team, then the no brainer of the Reds. CC should wait until the Sharks fold.
A considerable amount of people agree with most of what you just said, but I'm just thankful (or hopeful) that people that think like that are not running the NRL.
 
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The NRL need to expand not contract. Perth to be the expansion and one heartland team. QLD is the heartland of rugby league yet they are stuck on 3 teams while AFL is on the march in that state with 2 teams now.

The next 2 teams into the NRL should be WA reds and Ipswich Jets. When a Sydney team fails or merges that will open up a franchise for the Central Coast.

Why should it be Ipswich because the AFL are on the March in QLD with a team that is already set and is the states team basically and another one that may or may not work. Ipswich is not ready for an NRL team as yet. The A League has just gone and expanded willy nilly to get teams in and numbers up and the expansion areas are all but dead one financially and one interest wise.

Ipswich is not structuarally ready for a team yet. It would be expanding on the run and without planning and being ready. The team could flop and fail (like the Crushers did) due to expanding just to expand.

AFL will not make further inroads into QLD or Sydney for that matter. The NRl needs to be careful about where it expands and when.

I am all for a new side in QLD but I think that South East QLD may be a better option. Then again I could be wrong and Ipswich may be ther better option. But to totally wipe out a decent bid from the CC Bears and one that may raise the bar in the competition is wrong.

Surely Central Coast is a very good option. Instead of looking at what other areas supposedly offer over the Bears bid maybe we should look at what the Bears bid offers already existing sides. It may very well be from within the cull needs to take place not the ones on the outside looking for a chance.

Central Coast opens up the game to an expanding community (Central Coast) as well as corporately for the second largest financial area in Australia (North Sydney) combined it is a lot to ignore.
 
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Brutus

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Ipswich is not structuarally ready for a team yet. It would be expanding on the run and without planning and being ready. The team could flop and fail (like the Crushers did) due to expanding just to expand.

You are aware of the reasons why the Crushers never really had a chance aren't you?
 

The 18th Man

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A great day out at The Entrance topped off by the presence of the Central Coast Bears. Brought a smile to my face to see the support and appreciation for the volunteers doing such a great job for our bid. Keep up the great work! They will be there to 7pm tonight.
 

Bro Bear

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Keep up the good work Central Coast Bears. With only two NSW Country teams (Canberra and Newcastle, and three when the Dragons play at Illawarra) it will be good to see another country team in the NRL. Central Coast has everything going for it - supporters, juniors, history, financial backing, stadium, leagues clubs.

Like to see the WA Reds join the NRL in 2013 too but the CQLD has more of a solid junior base but no stadium built... Ipswich is still developing their bid.
 

bobmar28

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Why should it be Ipswich because the AFL are on the March in QLD with a team that is already set and is the states team basically and another one that may or may not work. Ipswich is not ready for an NRL team as yet. The A League has just gone and expanded willy nilly to get teams in and numbers up and the expansion areas are all but dead one financially and one interest wise.

Ipswich is not structuarally ready for a team yet. It would be expanding on the run and without planning and being ready. The team could flop and fail (like the Crushers did) due to expanding just to expand.

AFL will not make further inroads into QLD or Sydney for that matter. The NRl needs to be careful about where it expands and when.

I am all for a new side in QLD but I think that South East QLD may be a better option. Then again I could be wrong and Ipswich may be ther better option. But to totally wipe out a decent bid from the CC Bears and one that may raise the bar in the competition is wrong.

Surely Central Coast is a very good option. Instead of looking at what other areas supposedly offer over the Bears bid maybe we should look at what the Bears bid offers already existing sides. It may very well be from within the cull needs to take place not the ones on the outside looking for a chance.

Central Coast opens up the game to an expanding community (Central Coast) as well as corporately for the second largest financial area in Australia (North Sydney) combined it is a lot to ignore.

You should check Google maps, Ipswich is part of SEQ. In fact it is virtually a suburb of Brisbane.
 

Red&BlackBear

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You should check Google maps, Ipswich is part of SEQ. In fact it is virtually a suburb of Brisbane.

Maps are deceiving. I drove from Brisbane to Ipswich last night for the first time in ages. Whilst all the road works will make the traffic infrastructure better, it's still a mess to get there. 45 mins from cbd. No it's not part of Brisbane.
 

Red&BlackBear

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Today the Central Coast Bears membership drive will be @

Central Coast Bears Presidents Cup Grand Final

WHEN: Sun 28th November from 12pm
WHERE: Avoca Bowling Club
 

The 18th Man

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A great day was head down at The Entrance. The Central Coast Bears work ethic and committment to the cause isn't to be questioned. Onward and upward from here.
 

Red&BlackBear

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-face-the-orford-truth/story-e6frfgbo-1225961956799


Eels face the Orford truth

David Riccio

PARRAMATTA will rely on the old pairing of Daniel Mortimer and Jeff Robson after negotiations with veteran halfback Matt Orford were terminated last week.


The Eels were considered short-priced favourites to sign Orford, who is eager to return to the NRL despite being contracted to English Super League club Bradford.

However, talks between Parramatta management and Orford were formally closed last Friday.

It would appear Canberra are now in the box seat to snare Orford. The Raiders are desperate to sign the former premiership-winning No. 7 as a replacement for injured skipper Terry Campese.

But in a further twist, The Sunday Telegraph has learned that Orford is considering sitting out the 2011 season and possibly playing with the Central Coast Bears in an expanded competition in 2012.

While the Eels were unwilling to wait any longer for a decision from Orford, as he strives to gain a release from Bradford, it is believed that instability at the Parramatta club over the past 18 months contributed to the 32-year-old's reluctance to sign on the dotted line.

Either way, Orford joins a long miss-list of Eels targets - including retired veterans Trent Barrett and Brett Kimmorley, rugby union stars Quade Cooper and Craig Gower, and representative stars Cooper Cronk and Braith Anasta - to have knocked back the besieged club over the past six months.

New Eels coach Stephen Kearney spoke with Mortimer and Robson recently, telling them that the job of steering the club back to the finals was there next season if they wanted it.

Mortimer's father and former Canterbury legend Peter said it was up to Daniel to make the most of the opportunity offered by Kearney.

"Time will tell," Peter said of his son's ability to shine next season.

"I haven't spoken to Stephen Kearney, but everyone I've spoken to speaks very highly of him.

"So if he's made the decision to go with Daniel and Jeff, then they're going to have to perform up to his expectations.

"The ball is in both the boys' court now.

"I can see Daniel's attitude just in the last four weeks has been a little bit more driven."
 

The 18th Man

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I am not getting my hopes up for an expanded competition in 2012. Gallop is a stubborn bastard and he believes 2013 is the right time. Interesting though.
 

bobmar28

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Maps are deceiving. I drove from Brisbane to Ipswich last night for the first time in ages. Whilst all the road works will make the traffic infrastructure better, it's still a mess to get there. 45 mins from cbd. No it's not part of Brisbane.
Near enough. Ipswich is 40k from Brisbane CBD. Campbelltown is part of Sydney and is 60k from the CBD.
 

Red&BlackBear

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-must-tackle-big-problems-20101127-18bcp.html


Independent commission must tackle big problems

With the independent commission looming, Adrian Proszenko urges the game's incoming powerbrokers to be bold.

1 RAISE THE CAP


It is time for the salary cap to go up. Significantly. Hailed as the great leveller of talent, the cap has also held the game back. Putting a ceiling on the amount the stars can earn has forced some of them out of the game. While some have returned, many others have not. League is poorer for the absence of Sonny Bill Williams's shoulder charge, Craig Gower's tenacity and Craig Wing's pink pants.
The argument that the cap protects clubs from themselves is insulting. The strong should not be held back by the weak. ''Rather than looking at the constraints we put on the sport, we should be looking at ways to expand it,'' Penrith coach Matthew Elliott told The Sun-Herald earlier this year. ''It befuddles me that each club has CEOs and CFOs appointed, yet part of the charter of salary cap is to protect clubs from themselves. If that's the case, we need to get rid of all the CEOs. What are they there for? That argument needs to be removed as a premise of what the cap is there for.''

The streamlining of the game's governing bodies will bring efficiencies and some of those savings should be passed on to clubs. A new TV deal, purportedly worth $1 million, is also looming. There is no excuse for the grants from the independent commission to clubs to not match the cap. The minimum wage for a first-grade footballer must be raised to $75,000.

2 MAKE A STATEMENT IN WESTERN SYDNEY


Western Sydney is league land. The IC must keep it that way. A strong message must be sent to fans - and the AFL - that demonstrates that the lifeblood of the game will not be taken for granted. The IC can start with a festival of football in western Sydney. This should comprise a double-header at ANZ Stadium. The venue would soon be sold out following the announcement that Parramatta will open the season with a clash against arch rivals Canterbury. Penrith will then take on Wests Tigers on a day that celebrates the fans. Andrew Demetriou must be sent a message that he started a war that can never be won.

3 OVERHAUL SCHEDULING


The first matter of business should be to lock in the regular-season schedule at the start of the season. This will follow the lead of the AFL and give fans certainty, allowing them to plan their visits to the football well in advance. The IC - and not the broadcasters - must be responsible for scheduling.
The representative season requires an overhaul. The order should be City-Country, followed by Origin and then internationals. If City-Country isn't treated like a genuine selection trial for NSW jumpers, it should be scrapped altogether. Origin matches should stand alone. The TV rights to these events should be sold separately.
The IC should also form a committee to examine the merits of a switch to a conference system. Teams could be split into zones (western conference, Queensland conference, etc), ensuring that local derbies are played home and away. The committee should also investigate the relevance of the Anzac Test in its current form.

4 OVERHAUL SECOND-TIER COMPETITIONS


The National Youth Competition has its merits but the age should be raised from 20 to 23. The NSW Cup should be modelled along the lines of the Queensland Cup - with the winner of each competition facing off on grand final day. Too many players are lost to the game due to the absence of a proper second-tier competition. This must be remedied immediately.

5 EXPANSION BACK ON THE TABLE


Two additional teams must be granted licences into the league. The Central Coast Bears should be one of them. This will provide further bargaining power before the new broadcast deal is negotiated. A committee must be set up to inspect and grant the bids.

6 INTEGRITY UNIT


The IC must create an integrity unit, which will investigate issues including problem gambling, serious breaches of player behaviour etc. When players transgress, punishments should be taken out of the hands of the club and dealt with by the IC. This will ensure uniform punishments and will prevent the clubs acting in their self interest.

7 REFEREE ACCOUNTABILITY


Referees, or their bosses, must front up and explain their decisions. Bill Harrigan and Stuart Raper should be required to explain controversial decisions to the media at the conclusion of every NRL round. They should put their hands up when a mistake has been made.

8 RULES COMMITTEE


A rules committee must be formed to review the season and make alterations as required. This responsibility should be taken out of the hands of club coaches, who have previously made modifications which are solely in their interests rather than that of the game. Stripping, torso tries and the downtown rule should be debated by past players and coaches.
 

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Proszenko obviously reads this and other league forums:

2 MAKE A STATEMENT IN WESTERN SYDNEYThe IC can start with a festival of football in western Sydney.

Said this before elsewhere. We need to get the timing right - but also - it needs to be on a Sunday afternoon - with a set number of free tickets to the juniors of each club. With the right marketing approach, the NRL can sell this game out.

3 OVERHAUL SCHEDULING

As I've said, the best option to maximise attendances and tv ratings is to go to a combination fixed and flexible system, with major matches being locked in before the season begins.

4 OVERHAUL SECOND-TIER COMPETITIONS
The NSW Cup should be modelled along the lines of the Queensland Cup - with the winner of each competition facing off on grand final day.

I spoke to NSWRL & QRL about this a few years ago. We need a viable 2nd tier open age competition and the rivalry between NSW & QLD would be a boost in interest on grand final day, especially when interstate teams make the final.

In time I see this grand final game expanding to be the final of a knockout finals series format between the winners of all the 2nd tier comps in the Pacific region, but NSW v QLD is the place to start it.
 
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People saying there should be two new teams make me laugh.

Where in the hell will you get players from for two new teams?

Do we really want to dilute the standard of an NRL match even further?
 
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