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nqboy

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http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,11645767-23214,00.html

AUSTRALIAN coach Wayne Bennett has called on the ARL board to make a decision about Australia's Test captaincy before they embarrass the position.

The captaincy issue was stirred again yesterday after Bennett publicly endorsed Darren Lockyer, who has led the past two Kangaroo tours while Andrew Johns has been injured.

Johns is considered the incumbent Test captain but, through injury, has led Australia only twice since taking over from Brad Fittler, while Lockyer has led the Kangaroos eight times.

"I would rather they get it out on the table now because it is only going to raise its head continually until they do," Bennett said.

"And in my opinion it degrades the position. The decision should be made sooner rather than later so it puts the speculation to bed."

Johns is already gun-shy of the debate, having gone through a similar experience with Gorden Tallis in 2002.

Bolstering Bennett's call, Johns's manager John Fordham said the Newcastle captain was unwilling to comment for fear of involving himself in another prolonged debate.

"His main priority is to get back playing football and he is available assuming his return is successful, but Andrew doesn't want to get involved in a situation like he did with Gorden Tallis two years ago," Fordham said.

Fordham said Johns would support Lockyer if he was named captain.

Bennett said the game, to say nothing of the prestige of the Australian captaincy, would be tarnished unless a decision was made now.

"I personally don't want to see what happened to Andrew and Gorden happen again. That became an issue that wasn't in the individuals' interests," he said.

"It tarnishes it because there is huge debate about it and at the end of the day who doesn't get it comes across as a loser anyway.

"Make the decision sooner rather than later. Don't degrade the position by making it an issue."

Bennett opened the debate shortly after the Kangaroos arrived home on Wednesday, saying: "I don't think there will be any doubt that Darren Lockyer will be captain of Australia [in 2005]."

It appeared pre-emptive, as the ARL board appoints the Test captain, not the coach.

Bennett's fear is set to be realised, though, with ARL chairman Colin Love and chief executive Geoff Carr saying the ARL policy is to not name a captain until the team has been named.

Obviously, this will not happen until shortly before the first Anzac Test in April.

"The last time this came up it went for two months as to who would be captain out of Joey [Johns] and Locky [Lockyer] and at the end of the day Locky was the only one in the team," Carr said.

"If we had gone ahead and picked Joey in advance we would have had to change it.

"The policy has always been that we pick the team and from the team we pick the captain."

When I saw the headline, I thought this was an opinion piece from some dickhead journalist. I'm surprised that Bennett has said this but after reading his reasons, I can understand it somewhat.

However, I still feel that there's no point in naming a captain until the side is named, the ARL's view. Who's to say Joey is going to make a full recovery and be the player he was? Who's to say Locky won't be injured or struggling for form because of injury?

What do you guys think?
 

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innsaneink said:
I always knew Bennett was somewhat childish and juvenile....this just confirms it even more.

you are a follower on the roosters are you not? they are the prime eg of childish and juvenile behaviour
"we made a pact your honour in that we would not let anyone intimidate us" :roll:
 

nqboy

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I was hoping we could discuss this and avoid a Bennett-bashing exercise but apparently not.
 

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If the captain were named today, and injured just before the test, wouldn't you consider the replacement captain as a stand in, thereby devaluing his capataincy. Just name the capatain when you name the team, whats the big deal.
 

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nqboy said:
I was hoping we could discuss this and avoid a Bennett-bashing exercise but apparently not.

Oh....discuss it but dont bag him?

As soon as I read this, all the "interviews" I've seen of him, where hes mumbled out some incoherent reply to a legitimate question came to mind.

Its like saying lets talk about apples but just dont say some are green.

Hes an immature bloke with a chip on his shoulder and this captaincy issue is just another example of that immaturity, IMO.




you are a follower on the roosters are you not? they are the prime eg of childish and juvenile behaviour
"we made a pact your honour in that we would not let anyone intimidate us"

Yeah right mate Im a roosters fan thats why I have a pic of Anthony Laffranchi in me sig.
 

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It's just Benno pushing a barrow. Good luck to him, but it won't get far. As was pointed out the skipper is selected by the board from the selected team. Been that way since Adam was in under 7's and there is no need to change it. Lockyer will be the incumbent Australian captain until the board takes it off him or he retires. How the hell not naming him offically captain for a game six months away degrades the position is a mystery to me.
 

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He only wants the captain to be named now because he knows it would by Lockyer, where as if it was before the game it could very well be a different story.

He is a joke and for a person who feels so pasionate about the game why does he bag it so much ???
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
He is a joke and for a person who feels so pasionate about the game why does he bag it so much ???

who does bennett bag????? he responds to the crap that is dished up to him and all the people in suits who make stupid decisions.
What about Gould???????? he GIVES it to the administrators on ch9 weekly on the footywhow and in his newspaper column.

Bennett doesnt come up with some of the crap that others do.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
he responds to the crap that is dished up to him and all the people in suits who make stupid decisions.

So what "crap" has been dished towards him regarding the selection of the captain then ???

Its clear he has a hidden agenda because he knows if a captain is selected now that Lockyer would be picked however if a captain is selected from the side that runs out against the Kiwis it could be someone different!

Do you think its fine that he can coach a side and allow them to laugh and joke around whilst getting thumped by USA whilst wearing the Australian Jumper ???

Do you think it is then ok for him to turn around and comment on what he thinks devalues the jersey is that a captain is not selected at this moment ???

Charlie Saab said:
What about Gould???????? he GIVES it to the administrators on ch9 weekly on the footywhow and in his newspaper column.

Did Gould make any comments regarding this which was located in the article ???

Charlie Saab said:
Bennett doesnt come up with some of the crap that others do.

Did anyone say he did ??
 

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i have gained new found respect for bennett this off-season. he's a man that clearly wants to see international rl flourish.

too many journalists, CEOs etc have been whinging about the trinations and usa/france games. At least Bennett cares about RL, the Kangaroos, and developing the game both in and out of Australia.

if only the clubs looked at the big picture.

bennett :clap:
 

nqboy

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innsaneink said:
Oh....discuss it but dont bag him?
Bag him if you must but at least discuss the idea.

innsaneink said:
Its like saying lets talk about apples but just dont say some are green.
Huh?

innsaneink said:
Hes an immature bloke with a chip on his shoulder and this captaincy issue is just another example of that immaturity, IMO..
Whatever. Want to talk about the topic?
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
he responds to the crap that is dished up to him and all the people in suits who make stupid decisions.

So what "crap" has been dished towards him regarding the selection of the captain then ???

Its clear he has a hidden agenda because he knows if a captain is selected now that Lockyer would be picked however if a captain is selected from the side that runs out against the Kiwis it could be someone different!

Do you think its fine that he can coach a side and allow them to laugh and joke around whilst getting thumped by USA whilst wearing the Australian Jumper ???

Do you think it is then ok for him to turn around and comment on what he thinks devalues the jersey is that a captain is not selected at this moment ???

Charlie Saab said:
What about Gould???????? he GIVES it to the administrators on ch9 weekly on the footywhow and in his newspaper column.

Did Gould make any comments regarding this which was located in the article ???

Charlie Saab said:
Bennett doesnt come up with some of the crap that others do.

Did anyone say he did ??

Gould says crap all the time on the footyshow about lots of issues like :
"the people running our game have dropped the ball with regards to the non admission of a 16th team"
"We should scrap the salary cap"

hidden agendas???? bennett lays it all on the table isnt sly about it.

so the players were laughing...f**k me, its a CRIME to laugh on the football field. IT was an exhibition match for crying out loud...EXHIBITION match. Willie mason might have farted and they all laughed..who knows.
They are human, not fricken robots. Heaven help sports people if you ever got the chance to coach :roll:
 

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Gould says crap all the time on the footyshow about lots of issues like :
"the people running our game have dropped the ball with regards to the non admission of a 16th team"
"We should scrap the salary cap"

hidden agendas???? bennett lays it all on the table isnt sly about it.
to be fair to gould he lays it on the table too charlie as you clearly stated - he has a vehicle to do so.
 

nqboy

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Charlie Saab said:
Gould says crap all the time on the footyshow about lots of issues like :
"the people running our game have dropped the ball with regards to the non admission of a 16th team"
"We should scrap the salary cap"
"The stripping rule is the worst rule in the game." :lol: :lol: :lol: Wish I had a dollar for every time he's laboured that point.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Gould says crap all the time on the footyshow about lots of issues like :"the people running our game have dropped the ball with regards to the non admission of a 16th team"
"We should scrap the salary cap"

Yes we all know he is a tool but did he make any comments on this topic ??? NO he didn't so why bring him up to defend you beloved coach Wayne for ???

Charlie Saab said:
hidden agendas???? bennett lays it all on the table isnt sly about it.

So why didn't he come out and say that Lockyer should be named captain now for then hence why he wants a captain to be named now even though the 2005 season hasn't even started let alone have its pre-launch???

Charlie Saab said:
so the players were laughing...f**k me, its a CRIME to laugh on the football field. IT was an exhibition match for crying out loud...EXHIBITION match. Willie mason might have farted and they all laughed..who knows.

So do you agree its ok for people to represent there country whilst mucking around in what was meant to be a match to promote our code in a country that it is not really known in ???

Charlie Saab said:
They are human, not fricken robots. Heaven help sports people if you ever got the chance to coach :roll:

You really have no clue do you :lol: :lol: I could have so much fun with this quote :lol: :lol:
 
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