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Coach Flanno

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Flanno was back on the PR trail over the weekend, with the Illawarra Mercury this time


He's set to play a more high-pressure role than initially planned, but Kyle Flanagan's competitive nature ensures he'll have no problem winning over the Dragons faithful.


That's opinion of his father Shane, who's set to coach his son for the first time at NRL level come round one next season, where he's odds-on to partner Ben Hunt in the halves.


guilty of a rooftop hammer attack in Wollongong Court in October, and Jayden Sullivan released, the club's drastically under-stocked in the halves.
It leaves Flanagan the only established half on the club's books outside Hunt. Playing such a pivotal role under his father in the face of a famously demanding fanbase is a potential pressure point.

It's something Jake Arthur unfairly felt the brunt of in his time at Parramatta under father Brad, but Flanagan senior is confident there'll be no such drama with Dragons fans.
"I like to think Dragons fans are smarter than that," Flanagan told the Mercury.
"Kyle's going to play in a team where he's not going to be the number one half, it's going to be Ben. There'll be a lot of pressure taken off him.
"My relationship with Kyle at work is work. He knows that and all the players would be seeing that at the moment. I know what I can get out of him, he'll play his best football for me.
"If we're losing football games, it's not going to be because of him. I haven't got any problems with that and any honest Dragons fans won't be singling him out.
"If I had to do a job [reference] on Kyle, it would be he's just a really hard competitor, and that's all we're asking of him."
Having endured a bumpy ride through his career thus far, Flanagan junior may yet prove one of the buys of the season should he make a fist of the opportunity.

It now looks a shrewd buy under current circumstances, with Flanagan saying the 25-year-old has already been a valuable presence in preseason in the absence of Hunt, who isn't due back at training until January.
"We're lucky we got him to be really honest because, at the moment, we're short in that area in the halves with Ben away and Junior (Amone) not at training," Flanagan said.
"We brought him in to potentially to be that number 14, he can play in the halves, can play at hooker, can fill a spot anywhere. My thoughts, and a lot of people whose opinions I respect, were that he'd develop into a good hooker.
"He started a couple of games at the Bulldogs at hooker. In one against Penrith he played 80 minutes and did a pretty good job for his first game ever in that position. That was a big test and he did a good job.
"I know what he can do, he's a tough kid, we'll just have to assess that. It could change a little bit with the Junior Amone situation, but at the moment he's training at halfback and he's doing a good job."


The Dragons are also facing a drain on hooking depth despite Jacob Liddle establishing himself in the No. 9 last season, with Connor Muhleisen debuting and playing six games at the back end of the campaign.
Flanagan says both will need to find another gear in 2024, but he believes he has the right mix at dummy-half.
"The two dummy-halves did a good job last year in Jacob Liddle and Connor Muhleisen," Flanagan said.
"They're going to have to hold their hands up and get better again next year. Their form might keep Kyle in the halves, but if they don't do a good job, Kyle can play at hooker.
"There's a lot of pressure on everyone I feel and that's a good thing to have at this time of year."
 

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Even following the sacking of Griffin, Flanagan didn't head the club's short list of potential candidates, despite being clearly the best-credentialed.
In the end, he seemed the logical choice, but Flanagan said it's wrong to assume he would have taken on any role that became available.
"I was quite comfortable at Manly doing what I was doing," Flanagan said.
"Seibs (Anthony Seibold) just let me take total control of the offense over there, so that was a really enjoyable year. I had a three year deal at Manly, I was really enjoying my time.
"I just took my time. I had some little feelers here and there in the NRL over the last 12 months and probably had to move. When the Dragons opportunity came up it all just fell into place.
"I've got a long-term affiliation with the club, played here and coached here for a little bit. If I'd gone to new club there'd be a lot to learn about the way it functions, but I've been here as a player and as a coach before, it just gave me a big head start."
Flanagan's candidacy was roundly welcome by fans, but assuming the role was never fait accompli, with sections of the St Gerorge board faction reportedly having reservations.
In the end, the constitutionally required unanimous approval was reached, with Flanagan insisting he's felt nothing but the full support of the board since being appointed.
"A lot of that for me was just media talk,' Flanagan said.
"A lot of the time there can be a little bit of truth to the rumors, but the board had to be unanimous about any decisions they make in regard to coaching.
"That gives me some comfort, and all my dealings with the board have been really positive and direct. They've got a clear focus and pathway they want to go down.
"Obviously they had thought they were going to go in another direction and it ended up with me. That is what it is, but once I showed the direction I wanted to go in everyone's jumped on board."

While there's no question that the club's in need of a rebuild, Flanagan's setting a high bar for his first season in charge. Most pundits feel a run from 16th to the finals is too much to ask.
He's not promising as much, but Flanagan's adamant it's not beyond his current roster.
"Obviously the club's in a transition, but I'm not going to throw any five year plans out there or anything like that," Flanagan said.
"I want to win next year. We're obviously not going to win all our games next year, but we're going to go down fighting. If we get all the fans on board and enjoying the journey, the players will grow from it.
"I saw it happen at the Sharks. The Sharks never won anything, and then all of a sudden we started to win. That momentum, and how powerful it was for the playing group, you can't measure it.
"Hopefully the fans understand that it is a journey, but we're definitely going to be ready to go first game next year."

It's the question that won't go away, and it's certainly the one Flanagan's fielded the most since stepping into the coaching role.

"He's sick of losing" Shane Flanagan is confident he can help Ben Hunt recapture his passion for the Red V. Picture Anna Warr
Ben Hunt dropped a bombshell on the club in May when he requested a release from the two-year contract extension he only signed the previous November.

The desire to leave is one he's repeatedly re-iterated. He's given tentative assurances he'll see out 2024, but Flanagan's adamant he'll be there for 2025.
"To put the situation with Benny in black and white, he's sick of losing," Flanagan said.
"A lot of the senior players are. Blake Lawrie, Zac Lomax, they've been there through this losing period, and they're sick of it. I can understand his frustration in that, but Ben's going to be doing everything he possibly can to win.
"If we change the win-loss record and obviously have an enjoyable, successful club and get the Dragons back to what they were, he won't want to leave."

The unquestionably talented Dapto junior has been enigmatic in his top-grade career, combining flashes of brilliance with moments he'd like back.
Flanagan had planned a monster preseason on and off the training paddock for the 20-year-old, but those plans have been set back by ankle surgery and a broken thumb.

It will see the crash course crammed into a smaller window, but Flanagan still believes Sloan can be "an NRL superstar."
"I had a real big November-December planned for him in relation to some really hard training and then some stuff away from football," Flanagan said.
"We haven't really been really able to do a lot of that because he's had his arm in plaster and he's had ankle surgery. Unfortunately we're just going to have fast track that and cram it into two months.
"It's not ideal but that's what we're going to deal with now. He's a super talent, but he's got some flaws and I need to address the flaws.
"It's predominantly around resilience and defensive systems and structures. If we can get him up to speed that area, which I think we can, he'll be an NRL superstar."

If Sloan is the biggest riddle for Flanagan to solve, Zac Lomax would have to be a close second.
He's a super athlete, we just need to challenge him Shane Flanagan on Zac Lomax. Picture by Anna Warr

"He's a super athlete, we just need to challenge him" Shane Flanagan on Zac Lomax. Picture by Anna Warr
On the fringe of Origin selection a few seasons ago, Lomax was badly mishandled by Griffin but found his groove under interim coach Ryan Carr towards the back end of this year.
Flanagan revealed the 24-year-old will be spending plenty of time at fullback through preseason, regardless of what number he ultimately wears come round one.
"He's an unbelievable athlete with his strength and his endurance, but I need to coach him up," Flanagan said.
"He's been a little bit stuck on that right hand side and got stuck in his ways. He needs to have more to his game and playing at fullback could bring that out in him.
"He's definitely an [option] at fullback but, even if he doesn't start at fullback, the training at fullback is going to give him a lot of the skill set that I'm trying to get him to play as a centre.
"He's a super talented athlete, we just need to challenge him."

Uniting the warring tribes
It's something that only Wayne Bennett has truly managed to do, but bringing together still distinctly separate fanbases is the challenge Flanagan faces as a figurehead.
With the club having officially removed the term "joint-venture" from its constitution, Flanagan plans to turn two massive catchments into a single juggernaut.
"It's not a joint venture anymore," Flanagan said.
"We're the St George Illawarra Dragons and we're a really big club. We can look at the strengths of different parts of it, but we're all Dragons, we wear the same jersey.
"I don't think there was any war, but I just want to unite everyone and I'm quite happy to be the figurehead of just one club."
 

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St George Illawarra coach Shane Flanagan has in-demand Cowboys half Tom Dearden in his recruitment sights, saying the off-contract 22-year-old shapes as the ideal long-term successor to Ben Hunt at the Dragons.


One of few quality halves on the market for 2025, Dearden had been tipped to re-sign with North Queensland at the back end of last season, but has since indicated his desire to hit the open market.


The Cowboys remain confident of retaining his services, but the Dragons will be one of few rivals with big money to spend for 2025. He'll be one of several suitors, but Flanagan said Dearden would tick multiple boxes as a marquee recruit.
"He's definitely one we're looking at," Flanagan said.
"Ben's got to 2025 and it'd be a great transition to have someone like [Dearden]. Ben gave him an unbelievable reference, Dean (assistant coach Dean Young) has coached him and I watched him play in Origin.
"He's the type of player in a really important position that we'd look at, and there's a few others. Hopefully over the next six months that jigsaw puzzle just starts to fall into place."
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While he'd be a prized signature, Flanagan stressed he sees Dearden as a foil for Hunt over the next two seasons, not a replacement despite his skipper's publicly stated desire to be released from the final year of his deal.
"I plan on having him here for the term of his contract," Flanagan said.
"That's where we need to have a long-term plan and someone like Tom would be the long-term plan. Benny's been really positive, he understands that he's got a contract here and he's willing to work hard.
"He's going to come back to training and see new facilities, new players, a new way of training, new staff. It'll be really fresh for Benny and it'll freshen him up."
Flanagan's also expressed interest in Roosters star Joey Manu and wantaway Warriors prop Addin Fonua-Blake, the Warriors having denied the latter's request for an immediate release on compassionate grounds.
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The Dragons are among the favourites for his signature should he secure a release for 2025, but it would take a monumental effort to prise Manu out of Bondi.
While he's made no secret of his desire to attract quality players, Flanagan said he won't be recklessly splashing cash just because the club has it to spend.
"We've got to have a little bit of luck in recruitment, you've got a jag one or two big ones," Flanagan said.
"It's OK to have the money, but you've got to be able to get the right players to your club. Since I got the job mid-year, I've been really conscious of not just jumping in to get some signings.
"I want to make sure that I sign players that I'm comfortable with because next year there's going to be a lot of new players here. We've definitely got our head around what we need and the type of player we need.
"We've started that process, but I'm not taking the focus away from what I need to do [immediately]. If you don't focus on the now and you keep focusing on the future, you'll end up finding you've got no future."
 

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the media has not been on our back as much and writing negative stories since Flanno took over? While the Amone case is not directly the club's fault, the press would have had a field day talking about our lack of culture that somehow caused Amone to do what he did.
 

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the media has not been on our back as much and writing negative stories since Flanno took over? While the Amone case is not directly the club's fault, the press would have had a field day talking about our lack of culture that somehow caused Amone to do what he did.
agree 100 percent, two things are for this, Flanos relationship with the media and the fact that he can actually coach and has a good record
 

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the media has not been on our back as much and writing negative stories since Flanno took over? While the Amone case is not directly the club's fault, the press would have had a field day talking about our lack of culture that somehow caused Amone to do what he did.
This is true for sure.. but we are also in the honeymoon period (Griffin had one too).. everything changes after a few losses, as plenty of coaches find out every year.. OBrien, Bellamy, Stuart, Robbo, JD.. were all copping it deluxe in 2023... or being lauded as gods.. depending which part of the year you look at... media and fans are fickle.

Its why I was happy Flanno didnt start mid-season, it gave him about 8 months to sort shit out at the club, the staff, the roster, get his head around things without the constant pressure of weekly footy and heat from media outlets.

But yah 100% agree that he handles hard questions really well.. and he isn't scared to answer them... plus he actually uses full sentences, which is something our last 3 coaches couldn't manage #dragonsfooty.
 

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"I want to win next year. We're obviously not going to win all our games next year, but we're going to go down fighting. If we get all the fans on board and enjoying the journey, the players will grow from it.
"I saw it happen at the Sharks. The Sharks never won anything, and then all of a sudden we started to win. That momentum, and how powerful it was for the playing group, you can't measure it.
This part got my attention. You could set your clock to our weekly capitulations.
If Flanno and the players manage to win us over it will be quite the feat.
 

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Hunt played the entire world cup, so he didnt even start his leave until November 4th.. I think the older players can have a longer break also as they dont need the extra work the kids do.. that doesnt mean he wont be back early though.. but he has only been on leave for 16 days so far.
 

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What the... how is he permitted to miss training when most of our boys have been back since early Nov. Am I missing something?
Pretty normal for players who competed in end of year internationals. I'm sure even your dear leader De Belin will be a latecomer to training. After he hits 18 straight holes-in-one in a round of golf and writes 6 operas, of course
 

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If we sign Jack welsby and Dearden, Hunt wont want to go anywhere. If we had those 3 in our spine we would be a scary and exiting footy team. Can only dream i guess but i just have a feeling flanno is going to suprise us all over the next couple weeks.
AFB is the one who will make us a scary outfit, he is a must and so, to afford a Dearden and Tracy/Welsby, we would most likely have to let Hunt go. I wish we would have let him go when he requested the release as we would have had his cap dollars to buy another couple of good players.
 

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the media has not been on our back as much and writing negative stories since Flanno took over? While the Amone case is not directly the club's fault, the press would have had a field day talking about our lack of culture that somehow caused Amone to do what he did.
Maybe, Gordon has talked to Murdoch.
 

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