Because their ability to manipulate the ruck and have a good running game has become much more important. Defending in the middle and routinely making the most tackles out of any other play in the team is extremely taxing and impacts their ability to do this effectively. Add to that following the ruck every play in attack. It's important to have two hookers given what a fresh dummy-half's impact can do to change a game. Just look at the ANZAC Day game this year to see how Liddle's impact completely changed the course of the game.Just curious: hookers routinely don't play 80 minutes these days. Why is that? Is it really that taxing a role?
Yes when you think about it, a hooker defends in the middle and is often in the first line of defense with big forwards to tackle. In attack, a hooker needs to be at the play the ball every tackle to feed the ball out of the ruck.Just curious: hookers routinely don't play 80 minutes these days. Why is that? Is it really that taxing a role?
Cameron Smith is the benchmark and the things most notable about him areYes when you think about it, a hooker defends in the middle and is often in the first line of defense with big forwards to tackle. In attack, a hooker needs to be at the play the ball every tackle to feed the ball out of the ruck.
This is why I ask the question. I always believed Cameron Myth was generally over-hyped but he certainly played 'smart'. He was almost never the first-in in a tackle. Many hookers play a hyperactive style these days like some sort of demented kamikaze pilots. I've always considered hooker to be a thinking, tactical position first and foremost. Smooth and smart is more effective than fast and in the thick of it.Cameron Smith is the benchmark and the things most notable about him are
1. He didn’t get to dummy half every play and was often a link outwide.
2. Other key spine players like Slater were allowed to and in fact encouraged get into dummy half on a “play what’s in front of you” basis.
3. Smith rarely committed early to tackles and was very often 3rd man in on tackles slowing down the play.
4. Smith would stand near the ruck giving directions to others rather than running all the plays himself Thurston was also a master at this.
5. Smith managed his workload to ensure he didn’t get gassed.
Defensive overhaul - the players will now tackle for the whole game. Revolutionary, at least for the Dragon's for the last few years.Flanagan reveals next step in Red-V revolution
Dragons coach Shane Flanagan says fans won’t recognise the defensive overhaul of the side, while revealing his plans to shift Zac Lomax and Tyrell Sloan.
Since the advent of the 6 again rule it has been rarer and rarer to have an 80 minute hooker.Just curious: hookers routinely don't play 80 minutes these days. Why is that? Is it really that taxing a role?
Thanks OT great analysis as usual. I do remember in Cameron's early days, he was much more likely to rush in and be first in the tackle, incredible technique and ridiculous strength for his size. But using his brain, and maybe on advice from Bellamy, he calmed this down a bit.Cameron Smith is the benchmark and the things most notable about him are
1. He didn’t get to dummy half every play and was often a link outwide.
2. Other key spine players like Slater were allowed to and in fact encouraged get into dummy half on a “play what’s in front of you” basis.
3. Smith rarely committed early to tackles and was very often 3rd man in on tackles slowing down the play.
4. Smith would stand near the ruck giving directions to others rather than running all the plays himself Thurston was also a master at this.
5. Smith managed his workload to ensure he didn’t get gassed.
Benny Elias was the benchmark, of a halfback put into a hooking role, Cameron smith i think was a 5/8th, but really it's basically the same thing, guys like Peter Wallace, tough as nails moved from halves to hooker, pretty easily, its become a natural transiston for some... Kyle could be another, lets see how much traffic he gets in the middlePro's & Con's to an 80min hooker:
o Pro: You've saved 2 interchanges plus you could carry a dynamic back or an extra forward on the bench.
o Con: You wont get the same energy & threat from dummy half that you would from that fresh set of legs.
The mention of Cam Smith above, sort of points to the advantages of a 7 who became a 9... i.e. you have of an extra playmaker (and kicker) who has his hands on the ball first.... both of our halves Hunt and KFlan could tick that box.. but Smith is probably a future immortal so its not quite fare to compare.. but there is some crossover there.. That said I am really hoping our 2 blokes kill it in the halves.. it will change everything if they do.... but its an option in the future depending how things play out.
Excellent summation. Exactly this!Cameron Smith is the benchmark and the things most notable about him are
1. He didn’t get to dummy half every play and was often a link outwide.
2. Other key spine players like Slater were allowed to and in fact encouraged get into dummy half on a “play what’s in front of you” basis.
3. Smith rarely committed early to tackles and was very often 3rd man in on tackles slowing down the play.
4. Smith would stand near the ruck giving directions to others rather than running all the plays himself Thurston was also a master at this.
5. Smith managed his workload to ensure he didn’t get gassed.
Plus Elias was also in an era where scrums were still a physical contest, unlike Smith’s era…chews up a fair bit of energy.Benny Elias was the benchmark, of a halfback put into a hooking role, Cameron smith i think was a 5/8th, but really it's basically the same thing, guys like Peter Wallace, tough as nails moved from halves to hooker, pretty easily, its become a natural transiston for some... Kyle could be another, lets see how much traffic he gets in the middle
I dont think Flanno has made any outrageous promises, all of us and Flanno knew they had to get fit and defend better, I think they have improved their fitness no doubt, and Flanno will definitively have a defensive plan.Geez, Flanno is making a lot of promises to Dragons fans. Sounds either very confident that his method will work or he is deluded. Certainly putting pressUte on himself!
Cam Smith will probably be the next immortal and imo one of the best RL players ever, could read and control the game, defensively exceptional. When we were having our coaching dilemmas i was wishing that we could get him as AC with a view to take over in a couple of years, but I guess we will see him at the Storm or somewhere in QLD when he has had enough of earning millions with the mediaThis is why I ask the question. I always believed Cameron Myth was generally over-hyped but he certainly played 'smart'. He was almost never the first-in in a tackle. Many hookers play a hyperactive style these days like some sort of demented kamikaze pilots. I've always considered hooker to be a thinking, tactical position first and foremost. Smooth and smart is more effective than fast and in the thick of it.