Coach Robinson advocates 20game season

[GongPanther]

I think the season is too long and it affects the quality of the product and it makes it harder to grow out sport internationally. That’s my opinion.

Granted. For me,I can't see how the 24 week season affects the quality of the product.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating when you see that most finals series are played at an amazing magnitude.

Players don't look tired from a long season when they are playing for a spot in the Grand Final.

 

[Last Week]

What about the non-rep players who will end up having no solid football action for a whole month?

Be OK for those who are nursing niggling injuries,but it will take a week or two when the comp restarts for a good number of players to get back to match fitness.

They seem to go OK for the first few rounds of the comp. They'll live.

 

[Timbo]

The Big Bash League has an eight team, ten match season and there are still some shockingly one sided games.

I really don’t buy the ‘shorter season, better games’ theory. Parra, Canberra, Newwy and Canterbury wouldn’t be putting a better product on the table if there were four fewer games.

 

[Exsilium]

The Big Bash League has an eight team, ten match season and there are still some shockingly one sided games.

I really don’t buy the ‘shorter season, better games’ theory. Parra, Canberra, Newwy and Canterbury wouldn’t be putting a better product on the table if there were four fewer games.

Could just have shorter games. Teams like Canberra specialise in 65 minute efforts.

They’d lead the comp.

 

[Meapro Ham]

It's an occum's razer approach to the point that when you have 4 weeks worth of less bums on seats,I can't see how they can give rises in wages and increase revenue,unless they price gouge the fans. And that will go down like a lead baloon.

What do you think they would do?

The suggestion is not to just reduce the amount of NRL games. The idea is to increase the number of rep games, grow the game internationally and at the same time reduce some of the dead wood NRL games around rep periods with more sensible scheduling and not having origin players miss so many games.

All of that in theory adds up to increased revenue and wages. And it should if worked through properly.

 

[nick87]

Could just have shorter games. Teams like Canberra specialise in 65 minute efforts.

They’d lead the comp.

Na, Coach stick would sort that our real quick.
We'd just start capitulating at the 55th minute in response to such a move.

This is who we are.

 

[GongPanther]

The suggestion is not to just reduce the amount of NRL games. The idea is to increase the number of rep games, grow the game internationally and at the same time reduce some of the dead wood NRL games around rep periods with more sensible scheduling and not having origin players miss so many games.

All of that in theory adds up to increased revenue and wages. And it should if worked through properly.

Sounds good.

 

[Diesel]

Plenty of things to fill in the weekend when there’s a rep round, 2 weekends ago showed that

 

[Perth Red]

This^.Bet the players step back if their wallets were to be 4 weeks wages lighter. And I assume that the season ticket pricing would be making the clubs quite a bit worse off. And yea,after pumping millions into a new Parra stadium,the NSW state gov would be filthy with 4 less games if it was to be shared around during the season proper. No way the season is going to be shortened.

Doesn’t have to be, expansion is the answer. Reducing the comp 4 rounds means 24 less games for tv content. Expand to 18 teams and you make up 20 of these games. So we’re only 4 games down, increasing rep games and interest more than makes up for those 4 games. Saying players will lose money is real doomsday Thinking

 

[Perth Red]

I agree
Having all these knock out comp things won’t really do much.
Remember the super league and all the bullshit extra club challenge games.

It was shit.

I reckon 16 games is better than 20
It is too unfair

Play everyone once
Maybe SOO and rep month in the middle

Ideally we’d get to 20teams and 20games.

 

[Perth Red]

The players won't seriously come with that argument. In having a shorter season still has teams coming first to last,so you will still see poor quality games depending on certain match-ups. It's unavoidable.

For example,in an NFL season,they play 16 games and one bye. During the season,they have their games were you'd think they were the Superbowl. And on the other side of the coin,you have games were you contact the NFL demading you get a refund on the 3 hours you'll never get back.

My point is no matter the kind of pro sport you follow,you simply can't change it's defining issues,whether good or bad no matter how many games are played.

Do the players take a pay cut?...no.

Do the clubs lose money in have two less home games?...yes.

Will Foxtel reduce their sports subscription from $25 per month?...highly unlikely.(which would lead to a large customer backlash and therefore unsubscribe)

Will the NRL value in contract negotations drop?...of course.

As above there are other ways of devloping more content other than just playing 24 games per club. There is no reason the tv value has to drop due to cutting t9 a 20 round season.

Maybe with less home games clubs will actually get of their arses to get people to them to keep the revenue growing?

I don’t pay Foxtel for 26 rounds x 8 games. I pay it to watch a full season of nrl and SL and internationals.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm asking you. You're riding around the questions I put out to you. If you don't have any answers,that is OK,it's not a pissing contest.

Smart bus8nesses are increasingly recognising that you are paying staff to deliver kpi’s and outcomes, not to work 7.5 hours a day,

 

[carcharias]

Ideally we’d get to 20teams and 20games.

So 4 more teams?

We already have about 4 teams on 3 or 4 wins for the entire year.

 

[Perth Red]

So 4 more teams?

We already have about 4 teams on 3 or 4 wins for the entire year.

Eventually yes. There’s enough kids playing the game in Aus, nz, england, png and PI’s to populate 20 teams IF the development pathways are there,

 

[carcharias]

Wouldn’t surprise me if kids numbers have actually dropped.

 

[Timbo]

As above there are other ways of devloping more content other than just playing 24 games per club. There is no reason the tv value has to drop due to cutting t9 a 20 round season.

Maybe with less home games clubs will actually get of their arses to get people to them to keep the revenue growing?

I don’t pay Foxtel for 26 rounds x 8 games. I pay it to watch a full season of nrl and SL and internationals.

It doesn’t matter what you’re paying for, if they drop the number of rounds Foxtel and the commercial networks will say ‘you are giving us fewer weeks of content and fewer opportunities to sell ads - we are paying less for this’ and all the NSW Cup knockouts and Fiji vs Vanuatu test matches in the universe will not be enough to compensate.

If people can cancel their Foxtel a month earlier because the season is over, that is a big hit for Foxtel. They aren’t just going to take it they’ll pay less money.

If you think the commercial broadcasters will then step into the breach to cover the shortfall, then I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Perth Red]

Wouldn’t surprise me if kids numbers have actually dropped.

Impossible to say as they don’t publish jnr numbers.
In WA we have seen some really positive increases in last 5 year but don’t know if that’s representative across the country?

 

[Perth Red]

It doesn’t matter what you’re paying for, if they drop the number of rounds Foxtel and the commercial networks will say ‘you are giving us fewer weeks of content and fewer opportunities to sell ads - we are paying less for this’ and all the NSW Cup knockouts and Fiji vs Vanuatu test matches in the universe will not be enough to compensate.

If people can cancel their Foxtel a month earlier because the season is over, that is a big hit for Foxtel. They aren’t just going to take it they’ll pay less money.

If you think the commercial broadcasters will then step into the breach to cover the shortfall, then I have a bridge to sell you.

We won’t know that until we test it. Is 9 games a week for 20weeks plus 3 weeks of rep games and extra end of season rep content worth less than 8games a week for 24weeks and mid week origin game? Who, knows.

 

[carcharias]

Impossible to say as they don’t publish jnr numbers.
In WA we have seen some really positive increases in last 5 year but don’t know if that’s representative across the country?

Well where I live I know two local junior teams merged for the first time ever due to low numbers.
Where soccer has 4 grades of 10 teams in the same age group.

 

[Timbo]

We won’t know that until we test it. Is 9 games a week for 20weeks plus 3 weeks of rep games and extra end of season rep content worth less than 8games a week for 24weeks and mid week origin game? Who, knows.

We don't know until we test it?

We don't know if people who own media companies will pay the same amount for less content? On the grounds that 'it's for the good of the game'?

Jesus Christ.