It doesn’t matter what you’re paying for, if they drop the number of rounds Foxtel and the commercial networks will say ‘you are giving us fewer weeks of content and fewer opportunities to sell ads - we are paying less for this’ and all the NSW Cup knockouts and Fiji vs Vanuatu test matches in the universe will not be enough to compensate.
If people can cancel their Foxtel a month earlier because the season is over, that is a big hit for Foxtel. They aren’t just going to take it they’ll pay less money.
If you think the commercial broadcasters will then step into the breach to cover the shortfall, then I have a bridge to sell you.
The NRL and AFL could halve the amount of game’s they play and their next eights deals would still go up.
Streaming services are going to be genuine players when the next rights deal rolls round, and as such Foxtel is going to have to pay through the nose. The very livelihood of their company depends on it.
If Foxtel low balls either league and one actually signs elsewhere, they’ll go broke
We don't know until we test it?
We don't know if people who own media companies will pay the same amount for less content? On the grounds that 'it's for the good of the game'?
Jesus Christ.
Streaming services are going to be genuine players when the next rights deal rolls round, and as such Foxtel is going to have to pay through the nose. The very livelihood of their company depends on it.
Ok let’s play this game.
So each individual nrl game is worth about $1mill in the media deal, give or take a few $’s. We lose 4 games by expanding to 18 teams and reducing to 20 rounds. That’s $4mill a year. Hypothetically let’s say the increased rep content value is $0.5mill a game. That is an overall loss on the annual revenue of $2mill or 0.3% of revenue. If it leads to better outcomes for the game is it with this minuscule reduction in revenue?
Who is going to produce the content (ie. film games, provide content etc etc) for these streaming service to give you NRL for $15-20 per month? Can you cite one streaming service who already does this rather than just simulcasting someone elses’ content?
Foxtel pay a million per game according to Kent in that conversation. Good luck fixing the $32m lost to the NRL.
It wouldnt be 32 games lost with expansion, yes it may be a hard sell but with Australia’s premium sports content product media should be falling over themselves to buy it,
There’s a reason even hugely successful shows have seasons and don’t show every week all year long.
You can get overexposure and viewer fatigue. NFL know this and have a very short season to make every game an event and must watch/attend occasion. A 20 round season seems a good compromise to work towards to free up space and player enthusiasm for rep footy which is where the real u tapped potential growth for the game is.
Nrl has plateaued for last 5 years and despite shed loads more revenue audiences and crowds are stagnant. We need to grow new markets and rep footy is a great way of doing that.
But there will still be a heap of bad games because we need to then find 100 extra players for four more first grade squads. We have five sides playing park footy standard as is with only 16 teams.
Add to that we'll have to have games in more undesirable timeslots because in order for your logic to hold up there can't be games in overlapping timeslots. The viewing numbers will drop. Only absolute diehards watch all eight games each round - I dare say the average fan would watch closer to three or four. Who is going to watch ten games per round?
Lets examine the 1998 NRL season when there were last 20 teams. I know fans had been turned off by the war, but even so - who in their right f**king mind would've watched the Magpies play the Chargers? Or the Rabbitohs play the Rams? You think people are going to watch these games for enjoyment? I've had trips to the dentist more fun than watching the bottom 6 sides in a 20 team competition run around.
So by your logic getting rid of some dud games (basically the entire origin period) will lose viewers, but adding more potentially dud games won't gain any viewers.
Checks out.
NRL is the equivalent of a maiden horse running at Rockhampton
But there will still be a heap of bad games because we need to then find 100 extra players for four more first grade squads. We have five sides playing park footy standard as is with only 16 teams.
Add to that we'll have to have games in more undesirable timeslots because in order for your logic to hold up there can't be games in overlapping timeslots. The viewing numbers will drop. Only absolute diehards watch all eight games each round - I dare say the average fan would watch closer to three or four. Who is going to watch ten games per round?
Lets examine the 1998 NRL season when there were last 20 teams. I know fans had been turned off by the war, but even so - who in their right f**king mind would've watched the Magpies play the Chargers? Or the Rabbitohs play the Rams? You think people are going to watch these games for enjoyment? I've had trips to the dentist more fun than watching the bottom 6 sides in a 20 team competition run around.
Club footy hasnt really grown in 20 years. TV is good, but crowds are the same as they were in like the 80s....
There is so much more potential in Rep footy; just look at the passion Origin inspires and how quickly a bit of success for Tonga has made brought the fans out em masse. Indigenous AllStars has HEAPS of potential (just need a decent opposition).
The biggest opportunity i see in Rep footy is the chance to change up the format. Origin is so different to the NRL, i think that variety is valuable to shake up the season. I think the comp format is the most important piece. It isnt enough to just expect fans to love their team, they need to be invested in the contest itself and hate the other teams....
lol so this thread has turned from arguing about a 20 game season into the fact that we can't apparently ever expand because the broadcasters will pay less money.
AFL have a shorter season and more teams with a much bigger player pool and they seem to be fine attracting big money from broadcasters.
20 teams - 20 rounds + pre-season tournament + 3 week rep window + 8 week international season sounds a lot better than
16 teams - 23 full rounds + 2 half-rounds + 1 week rep window + 4 week international season
Also a knockout between us out here in the former Group 17 would be more entertaining than some of the shit turned up from the NRL sides during the Origin period
Who is going to produce the content (ie. film games, provide content etc etc) for these streaming service to give you NRL for $15-20 per month? Can you cite one streaming service who already does this rather than just simulcasting someone elses’ content?