Conspiracy theory

[Rich102]

On Radio Live yesterday, Kevin Campion basically said that it should be Scurrah that should be going and not Cleary because Scurrah knows f*** all about league and that management should at least have league pedigree. He further added that Cleary was a good coach who had instilled a good culture within the club. He also suggested that Cleary's departure was more to do with ego and it was apparent that this was directed towards Scurrah again.

My issue with Bluey being the next coach are echoed with previous comments. If Bluey is such a great coach, why haven't other NRL clubs approached him already? He hasn't had a coaching position for about a year or so. The Warriors should be choosing the best coach from ALL the coaches and not the spare prick at the wedding.

Whilst Bluey is a good coach, my view is that under Bluey the Warriors won't win a final, unless he is able to recruit players of his choice without any influence of Scurrah and Bell. Because that's what he's been able to do with Hibiscus Coast, Mt Albert and Leeds and the Kiwis, by getting these teams of good players to win finals.

Why did Bluey depart Leeds?
Were the wheels falling off?
Was he burnt out?
Too much pressure from this fulltime position?
Why didn't he hang in there until he got a NRL position?

Bluey has the 'feel good', 'the people's man', 'working man' connection with a lot of people in NZ and if people's choice is based upon these premises, those decisions are more emotive than logical.

The Warriors should be casting their net far and wide and not like picking playground teams whereby Iro, Ackland and Bluey are the last kids that get chosen for each team.

On a pecking order from the best to the not so great with the current coaching stocks, Bluey is likely to be ahead of Ackland and Iro in that order, but how far down the list would they be? Would Bluey be ahead of Kearney? What about Mat Elliot?

Scurrah has already mentioned Bluey's name in some press conferences, so is this the inside running or as Kevin Campion said 'someone who doesn't know f all about running a NRL club'?

Good on Campion. A real straight guy. And a good point.
We have a lot of good administrators in NZ Rugby League. Why did Watson go for Hart & Scurrah? To my mind the club would be a lot better off if they went elsewhere too.
Remember the club review of a couple of seasons ago? Scurrah appointed the reviewers; what's changed? Campion & Gould should have done that job.
I think Bluey, if appointed, will do a great job - if he is given a fair degree of say. If not I can see it being a short stay.
One thing for sure, Bluey will tell it like it is. None of this mealy mouthed weasel talk.

 

[Iafeta]

On Radio Live yesterday, Kevin Campion basically said that it should be Scurrah that should be going and not Cleary because Scurrah knows f*** all about league and that management should at least have league pedigree. He further added that Cleary was a good coach who had instilled a good culture within the club. He also suggested that Cleary's departure was more to do with ego and it was apparent that this was directed towards Scurrah again.

I wonder if this is a fallout from Campion's mystery departure. Some sort of fractured relationship between Kevin and Wayne. There could be an inkling of bias in his comments. Not disregarding them however.

My issue with Bluey being the next coach are echoed with previous comments. If Bluey is such a great coach, why haven't other NRL clubs approached him already? He hasn't had a coaching position for about a year or so. The Warriors should be choosing the best coach from ALL the coaches and not the spare prick at the wedding.

Whilst Bluey is a good coach, my view is that under Bluey the Warriors won't win a final, unless he is able to recruit players of his choice without any influence of Scurrah and Bell. Because that's what he's been able to do with Hibiscus Coast, Mt Albert and Leeds and the Kiwis, by getting these teams of good players to win finals.

Why did Bluey depart Leeds?

As I understand it he was keen to get back to New Zealand.

Were the wheels falling off?

Given he left at the start of the 2010 season after winning the Grand Final in 2008 and 2009, I don't think that's quite right.

Was he burnt out? [/quite]

Given he, when the opportunity is right, has publically craved the Warriors head coaching position I don't think that'd be right either.

Too much pressure from this fulltime position?

I think honestly he just wanted to get back to NZ.

Why didn't he hang in there until he got a NRL position?

I'm not sure if that was his motivation to come back.

Bluey has the 'feel good', 'the people's man', 'working man' connection with a lot of people in NZ and if people's choice is based upon these premises, those decisions are more emotive than logical.

The Warriors should be casting their net far and wide and not like picking playground teams whereby Iro, Ackland and Bluey are the last kids that get chosen for each team.

On a pecking order from the best to the not so great with the current coaching stocks, Bluey is likely to be ahead of Ackland and Iro in that order, but how far down the list would they be? Would Bluey be ahead of Kearney? What about Mat Elliot?

Scurrah has already mentioned Bluey's name in some press conferences, so is this the inside running or as Kevin Campion said 'someone who doesn't know f all about running a NRL club'?

Definitely should be looking around as far and wide as possible. Steve Price alluded to the same thing. Matt Elliott is an epic failure. I think Bluey would be ahead of Kearney at the moment given his immense experience both locally and abroad. I dare say the structure will be the same as it is now but replacing Cleary with McClennan. Iro, Ackland and McClennan are very close as I understand it on a personal level.

 

[ozbash]

Ackland and McClennan are very close as I understand it on a personal level.

yep, Mt Albert reaped those benefits.

 

[Lossy]

... Kevin Campion basically said that it should be Scurrah that should be going and not Cleary because Scurrah knows f*** all about league and that management should at least have league pedigree.

Todd Greenberg is a cricket tragic and seems to be generally acknowledged as the best CEO around.

But taking Campion's comment at face value I'll apply it to Kevin and presume he knows equally f**k all about management.

 

[ozbash]

Warriors boss Wayne Scurrah has confirmed the club would prefer to replace Ivan Cleary with a Kiwi coach but has refused to respond to strong speculation in league circles that Brian "Bluey" McClennan is all but assured of the job.
Scurrah is adamant he will take his time before deciding on a replacement for departing first-grade coach Cleary, who is off to the Penrith Panthers next year.
In fact, the process to appoint a new head coach is yet to even begin.
Warriors under-20s coach John Ackland and first-grade assistant Tony Iro have both been linked with the role. The club rates both individuals highly but it's unlikely, with McClennan back in New Zealand after a successful stint with Leeds, that they will get the job ahead of him.
McClennan – the fans' favourite – is understood to be at the shortest odds to be appointed, but Scurrah refused to discuss that yesterday.
"Look, putting to the side a moment the potential to sign a super coach with a successful and prominent record, we are massive at the Warriors about giving Kiwis opportunities and that's the same with our next head coach," Scurrah told the Sunday Star-Times.
"Ideally, our next head coach will be a Kiwi."
McClennan, who won two Super League titles with Leeds and the 2005 Tri Nations as Kiwis coach, is sure to be seen as the man who can build on what Cleary started in taking the Warriors to three NRL playoffs series in his five seasons with the club.
"We have a clear mandate from the owners and an obligation to keep making progress," Scurrah confirmed. "All of the stakeholders in the club want us to be able to win grand finals and our next coaching appointment needs to reflect that.
"Any coach we employ is with the aim of winning premierships."


http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/5224746/Bluey-McClennan-a-shoo-in-to-coach-Warriors