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Corey Norman??

Eastview

Juniors
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291
So he's looking at ESL or a reggie team elsewhere? I've seen his old man's posts on the St George facebook page. Reminiscent of Jack Bird's father much? Shame.
I have seen them too. No wonder Dufty carries on like a spoilt brat when his old man is always pumping his tyres up. I bet he has never been told in his life. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Matt.
 

BLM01

Coach
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I have seen them too. No wonder Dufty carries on like a spoilt brat when his old man is always pumping his tyres up. I bet he has never been told in his life. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Matt.
Can someone tell me what is wrong and who on here would not pump up one of your kids tyres..Geez.
Social media is all about having your say, right or wrong and plenty (even on this forum) throw verbal attacks at higher profile players etc.
So tell me why can not Glen Dufty return serve to those that abuse his son in a public forum without being highlighted out on here.
 

Eastview

Juniors
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291
Can someone tell me what is wrong and who on here would not pump up one of your kids tyres..Geez.
Social media is all about having your say, right or wrong and plenty (even on this forum) throw verbal attacks at higher profile players etc.
So tell me why can not Glen Dufty return serve to those that abuse his son in a public forum without being highlighted out on here.
Sorry Mr Dufty, you keep feeding your kid lies telling him he is better than he really is. Gonna be a big reality check when no other club picks him up as their starting fullback. He is currently reserve grade standard at best, if you can't see that take your Rose coloured glasses off
 

muzby

Village Idiot
Staff member
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Social media is all about having your say, right or wrong and plenty (even on this forum) throw verbal attacks at higher profile players etc.
So tell me why can not Glen Dufty return serve to those that abuse his son in a public forum without being highlighted out on here.
Bingo..

He’s seen first hand the hard work and determination his son would have put in over the years, not to mention being a big part of it driving him round to trainings and games as a kid..

He’s watched his son get to the top level of the toughest football comp (and code) in the world..

So of course he’ll stick up for him if he sees folks who haven’t laced on a boot taking a pot shot from behind a screen..

We’re all very keen to bag out players, but in reality we’re probably just jealous they’re living out our own childhood dreams..
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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Can someone tell me what is wrong and who on here would not pump up one of your kids tyres..Geez.
Social media is all about having your say, right or wrong and plenty (even on this forum) throw verbal attacks at higher profile players etc.
So tell me why can not Glen Dufty return serve to those that abuse his son in a public forum without being highlighted out on here.

Of course he can but unfortunately for him, he will probably cop more for trying to stick up for his son than not.

For some, its all one way traffic.

It would be good if McGregor would actually clear the air a bit and let him know what the clubs plans are.

I still cant see why he can't be on the wing and or in the 17.
 

Carlton

Juniors
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Can someone tell me what is wrong and who on here would not pump up one of your kids tyres..Geez.
Social media is all about having your say, right or wrong and plenty (even on this forum) throw verbal attacks at higher profile players etc.
So tell me why can not Glen Dufty return serve to those that abuse his son in a public forum without being highlighted out on here.

His son isnt being abused on a public forum. A number of posters have expressed their concerns that he isnt first grade material yet. For the record I wish all you fathers, relatives , friends who get upset when the forum discusses a players strengths and weaknesses should take a chill pill. Its the fans at the end of the day that actually make their high salaries possible.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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Its hard for family not to react to social media. I recall Hunts wife coming out to bat for her man. Opinion was divided on her defence. Did she make her point ? I guess so, but the backlash was also brutal.

As @muzby said, there are keyboard heroes everywhere.

Im not in the Dufty camp as it relates to our squad, but I understand why his family would come out and defend him.
 

Carlton

Juniors
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Of course he can but unfortunately for him, he will probably cop more for trying to stick up for his son than not.


For some, its all one way traffic.

It would be good if McGregor would actually clear the air a bit and let him know what the clubs plans are.

I still cant see why he can't be on the wing and or in the 17.

Do you know that McGregor or the club hasn't made it clear what their plans are for Dufty? From what I've read in the media he has been told that there are areas they need him to improve on.

And the reason some of us dont want him on the wing or in the 17 is we dont believe at this stage he is good enough. Maybe the club sees it the same way.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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Do you know that McGregor or the club hasn't made it clear what their plans are for Dufty? From what I've read in the media he has been told that there are areas they need him to improve on.

And the reason some of us dont want him on the wing or in the 17 is we dont believe at this stage he is good enough. Maybe the club sees it the same way.

Wasnt he told that his position was secure ?

Again, Im not a Dufty advocate, far from it, but I recall articles where he was quoted as saying he was assured of his spot. Maybe they were "his" words.
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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Do you know that McGregor or the club hasn't made it clear what their plans are for Dufty? From what I've read in the media he has been told that there are areas they need him to improve on.

And the reason some of us dont want him on the wing or in the 17 is we dont believe at this stage he is good enough. Maybe the club sees it the same way.

Fair comment there, Carlton.
We all have our opinions on him and there's nothing wrong with that.

Being that he was in the team last season and now we have additional new players, l just think he deserves to start either fullback or wing.

Norman hasn't proved anything as yet and after several disappointing years, he is the one who needs to prove himself.

Duffy also needs to better himself and l'm sure he will.

Exciting times ahead.
 

BLM01

Coach
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His son isnt being abused on a public forum. A number of posters have expressed their concerns that he isnt first grade material yet. For the record I wish all you fathers, relatives , friends who get upset when the forum discusses a players strengths and weaknesses should take a chill pill. Its the fans at the end of the day that actually make their high salaries possible.

Yes and its the parents that make the kids that become good enough for the fans to watch...they have a right on social media as does a fan.
I am not talking about his son be abused but people are having a shot about his comments he makes on facebook in his sons defense. Why single out a parents comments on this forum is all I am saying..Save it for the same facebook page if you want to have a go back.
 

RufusRex

Post Whore
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The obvious thing though is that the family of the player is going to make comments looking through the lens of what is best for their son and his earning potential - team results are secondary. The average keyboard hero's lens is typically what they think is best for the club.
 

BLM01

Coach
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Sorry Mr Dufty, you keep feeding your kid lies telling him he is better than he really is. Gonna be a big reality check when no other club picks him up as their starting fullback. He is currently reserve grade standard at best, if you can't see that take your Rose coloured glasses off

No....your wearing the glasses. Pass your thoughts on to Mr Glen Dufty in the same Facebook forum yourself and engage with him there.
I have said plenty of here about Matt Dufty's flaws in his game and dont have to keep repeating it. I still believe he will make it as a marquee player and needs more chance and time to prove it (instead of casting him out after his 1st full season in 1st grade) if he can work and improve on those parts of his game he needs to. If he cant in the next year or so then it may be...bye bye.
And I dont believe for 1 minute he is ISP standard at best. Some pretty big statements you make under those glasses there.
 

BLM01

Coach
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Of course he can but unfortunately for him, he will probably cop more for trying to stick up for his son than not.

For some, its all one way traffic.

It would be good if McGregor would actually clear the air a bit and let him know what the clubs plans are.

I still cant see why he can't be on the wing and or in the 17.
No.to wing OKB..he is too small and light. He is a fullback. Maybe a half at a pinch but cant defend properly yet in the front line. If he isnt our best fullback ATM then he will have to play ISP. In 2018 he was our best option there and no one was whinging at Round 13. He probably will be our best option in 2020..if not somewhere else. I hope he stays and improves his game this year and gets an extension.
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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With regards to Dufty, I thought he had a pretty good season up to about round 18 or so. I thought most of our team were playing well up until about round 18 or so. When our form dropped Dufty got exposed at the back. I know he has areas of his game that he has to improve, but I think some have gone overboard. By the sounds of it, our club may already be looking for our future 2020 fullback.
 

Brutalitops

Juniors
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To be brutally honest regarding Dufty, I tend to side with the players over any club in situations like this, mostly because I understand their careers are very limited and the NRL certainly has a problem of post retirement careers. These guys retire around 30, maybe early to mid 30s, and yeah sure we always see these high profile cases of players going into media, coaching, club roles, etc. But the harsh reality is, that's barely the top 5% of players. The vast, vast majority find themselves in their 30s with no job experience, training, or qualifications. As someone who went through this in just early 20s, I can't imagine how much more difficult adding a decade to that must be.

NRL salaries are not "set for life" salaries for most players either. With all this in mind, I will usually always back a player to do the best for themselves while they can.

Would I prefer Dufty stick around and earn his new contract with the Dragons? Yep, but if he doesn't and takes up something that makes sense for him now, power to him.
 

watatank

Coach
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Wasnt he told that his position was secure ?

Again, Im not a Dufty advocate, far from it, but I recall articles where he was quoted as saying he was assured of his spot. Maybe they were "his" words.

There's nothing that indicates that Dufty has been assured that he will be starting fullback. His position was only secure in the sense that he will be part of the squad and wasn't being moved on to make way for Hayne when those rumours were happening. It's not really clear what the plans for Dufty are, time will tell.
 

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