Craig Wing or Danny Buderus ? Who is the better hooker ?

[drake]

Fully fit, I'd pick Bedsy, although I think the fact he's usually an impact player, and not a time share hooker like wing is telling.
Craig is excellent, I think Buderus has the edge on him.
But I reckon Pridiis shits on them both IMO.

 

[DJ Raida]

buderus by a mile

 

[simon says]

I think that at club level Buderus is the more dominant player,but at rep level Wing really does seem to step up and make a difference.The speed around the ruck improves markedly when he is in there,and Oz really makes big metres and gets on a roll.Even though I love Buderus,I think Wing should be starting hooker.

Cheers.

 

[macavity]

OVP, you truly are a tosspot.

 

[thuganomics]

Buderus by a mile.
Wing is a great player, but Buderus is just better.

 

[Big Mick]

Buderus is a great player.

But i'd never trade him for Priddis.

Saying that, I think we are blessed in the game today to have such remarkable hookers playing.

Luke Priddis, Craig Wing, Danny Buderus, Michael Sullivan, Mark Riddell, all wouldn't look out of place in a NSW or Australian Jersey.

Throw in Berrick Barnes and Michael Ennis next year, when they come on then Australia is in great shape in coming years.

 

[White Poiner]

Yeah go sully.
Oh yeah wing is better.

 

[Matt M]

If I had to choose either one I'd go for Buderus easily. Wing is very good but Buderus is easily the best hooker in the game right now.

 

[Jono078]

Just to clear some stuff up for everyone who is starting to think Buderus is crap.

I turned to the Sky News channel last night (channel 601 on Foxtel Digital) and pressed the active button. Then I checked the latest sporting news and it said Wing will get more playing time because of Buderus still having his foot injury.

End of story for me.

1st. Buderus
2nd. Priddis
3rd. Wing

 

[God-King Dean]

Buderus is a better hooker (although I do think he is a bit over-rated when compared to other hookers), but Wing is a better player all round.

Let's not forget, Buderus held Knights together & if he wasn't there Knights would have finished about last, not to mention he has been injured for parts of the season (didn't even trained) but still managed to play games in that time

 

[brissyleaguedude]

wing has been awesome this tri nations, so much impact.

Kinda clouding my judgement on the wing buderus issue.

 

[Broncodroid]

No contest when Buderus is fully fit, the 'proof was in the pudding' so to speak at Origin time where Buderus stood up and was counted in the 2-1 series win.

Buderus is a very smart dummyhalf who takes away alot of heat from his half as he can create things on his own with clever blindside play and a deft kicking game. Buderus also gets through a mountain of work leading from the fore in every game he plays.

Wing is an extremely talented player though I would not have him as my number 2 hooker in Australia let alone compare him to Buderus as a pure dummyhalf.

IMO, Luke Priddis and to an extent Cameron Smith are better in the number 9 though Wing's ultimate versatility makes him the better 'allround player' which is why he is amongst the first rep players selected as he adds impact and the ability to cover most positions on the park.

Who is the better hooker ? Dally M Player Of The Year Danny Buderus.

 

[Stranger]

buderus by a mile

WOW i never thought id see the day when i agreed with a canberra fan :lol:
especially DJ Raida


Yeah OVP Buds is shit dosent deserve his NSW and AUZ captanicy :roll: :roll: :roll:

Comon anybody with common sence would pick buderus over wing. The basic reason why Wing is having such an impact if you look at the games is because he comes on around the 25-30min mark were the other player are starting to look for the half time siren.

Dally M player/ hooker of the year but yeah ovp hes crap :lol:

 

[yappy]

Bedsy is the better starting 80 minute hooker. The best around, but as was noted no. 9 is spot with plenty of depth and good young uns coming through. Smith impresses every time I see him.

Wing is a fine player also and if Bedsy isn't 100% I'd have no arguments picking him to start at 9 for Australia. Where he really shines though is playing a free ranging game. He can pop up anywhere at dummy half, first receiver, second receiver, centre , fullback or even wing. He can play a structured game for sure, but when he plays as a surprise popping up where he isn't expected he'd be even more effective in a way Bedsy couldn't. The ultimate utility I'd always have Wing there somewhere (probably off the bench) and give him free range to inject himself when and where he sees an opportunity and have Bedsy on for the full 80. With Backrowers like Hindy and Fitz who can play 70mins plus you can interchange Wing with backs without losing anything and ensuring he can play the majority of the game also.

So in nutshell the which is better argument is bogus. You're comparing apples with oranges.

 

[Kris_man]

Wing has been awesome in the Tri-Nations, in fact, i think he's been far better than Buderus. i don't like the argument that "Buderus got Dally M player of the year, therefore he's better". to me, that means very little. i watch a damn lot of rugby league games, so i don't have to rely on a panel of "experts" to tell me who the best player is. the same guys think Brett Finch was the best halfback in '04, FFS! same goes with NSW captaincy - it doesn't mean much to me. it reflects Gus's opinion rather than playing ability, which i can judge for myself.

buderus defenders seems to be saying things like "he's a different type of player, not an impact player", but i don't like that theory either. Buderus didn't get famous by getting through a mountain of work. if that was the only measure of ability, then Richard Swain would have been the best hooker in the world a couple of years back. Buderus got his credibility by his astute dummy half running, his setting up and scoring of tries, etc. 'cos let's face it, there are heaps of hookers who "get through the dirty work".

who is the better player? damn, a bloody hard question. individually, i think Wing is better, but i do think that Buderus is a guy who can make the players around him lift, and bring out the best in them. overall, i'd say Buderus, but if Wing keeps up his current form, then i reckon he might overtake Buderus as the best hooker in the game.

 

[God-King Dean]

This is one question that annoys the absolute crap out of me. Phil Gould knew all along that Wing is a better option at dummy half in Rep games, but he never really had the balls to name him as the starting hooker. Now, even Wayne Bennett knows the real score, Wing will apparently get alot more game time in the Tri-Nations final than Butterarse. So why is Wing on the bench and the most overrated player of the millenium is starting ? Am i alone in thinking that Butterarse has NOTHING, in ANY area of the game, on Craig Wing ?

While you may pass my original post down as being biased, but seriously, and i mean really seriously please think for a moment. Dont you think, that when Craig Wing comes on and replaces Butterarse, that every Rep team whether it be NSW or Australia, seems to play ALOT, and i mean ALOT faster, simply because of Wing at Dummy half, compared to Buderus ?

Be honest guys.

HA, & you're calling Red & Blue Knight bias, yet you call Buderus butter-arse & he's got nothing. Be honest

 

[stubbsie]

No contest when Buderus is fully fit, the 'proof was in the pudding' so to speak at Origin time where Buderus stood up and was counted in the 2-1 series win.

Buderus is a very smart dummyhalf who takes away alot of heat from his half as he can create things on his own with clever blindside play and a deft kicking game. Buderus also gets through a mountain of work leading from the fore in every game he plays.

Wing is an extremely talented player though I would not have him as my number 2 hooker in Australia let alone compare him to Buderus as a pure dummyhalf.

IMO, Luke Priddis and to an extent Cameron Smith are better in the number 9 though Wing's ultimate versatility makes him the better 'allround player' which is why he is amongst the first rep players selected as he adds impact and the ability to cover most positions on the park.

Who is the better hooker ? Dally M Player Of The Year Danny Buderus.

Well said, Buederus is more of an 80 minute hooker that will make his 30 tackles and is very creative and has great vision from dummy half. Where as Wing is the perfect impact player who is very fast and a better dummy half runner but lacks the Vision and is a poor defender. Another thing Buderus has developed is leadership and really leads by example, Wing is a much more talented than Buderus but Buderus is a player that will put in 100 percent each game and is always looking to improve his game. He also learns from the best in Jonhs.

 

[Kris_man]

Wing a poor defender?! no he ain't. it seems that a lot of people are exagerrating the weaknesses of either one of the two players, in order to make their argument appear more sound.

 

[Red Bear]

I much prefer craig wing, he is a top player. Buderus, wing and Priddis are all excellent players IMO.
However i think that cameron smith is over rated. He just doesnt have that bigger impact. I've seen him play really well once(against Parra this year) but apart from that he has been just an ordinary hooker, nothing special.

 

[choisir]

Im happy with Adam Perry ,hasnt got mates in the media singing his praises at every opourtunity but is very under-rated