Crowd Watch Thread 2009

[Timmah]

I think next year there should be two threads. One being the "Queensland 'look how good we are' crowd wank thread" and one "Crowd watch thread" for those wanting to guess, predict and report the facts.

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

. report the facts.

The fact is sydney crowds are sh*t!

 

[Marshall_magic]

Going to be wet in Melbourne over the weekend, about 11-12,000 at the Storm/Newcastle game I think.

Surely the Broncos supporters will come out in fully force and back their team. Predicting 30,000.

Manly vs Dogs ...mmm...13,000.

Every time I predict a decent crowd we turn in a shocker, so now I'm predicting them to be as small as I can see them being, hopefully I get surprised (in a positive way) then.

 

[miccle]

A Couple of sh*t seasons will test them. However, it galvanises the core supporter base. Broncos need it. There's an entire generation who can't remember they're side being terrible, might give them a dose of humility.

Absolutely. Over and above that, it'd mean the club has to start actually appreciating its fans. I almost want a few seasons of horrific performances sometime - the Broncos are the most arrogant and closed-off club when it comes to their treatment of decent fans, but when there's only 9,000 of us showing up every fortnight, one day, they'll have to take note.

 

[Fraser]

Because Brisbane's crowds are so good why the f**k don't we have at least 3-4 teams in Brisbane then?

It was a shame the NSWRL had to establish a new club in Brisbane to enter the NSWRL. Why didn't they allow 2-3 BRL teams to enter the comp? They allowed a Gold Coast team in which never played in the BRL.

I'm going to defend St.George last night because last week most of the St. George fans were at the Wests game at the SFS. Wankers like Perth Red and PBB expect them to turn up every week - while they turn up to their one Perth game or 12 Brisbane games and hang sh*t on Sydney. 30k last night wasn't great considering 2million people live here and more than half the crowd were wearing black.

 

[t-ba]

Absolutely. Over and above that, it'd mean the club has to start actually appreciating its fans. I almost want a few seasons of horrific performances sometime - the Broncos are the most arrogant and closed-off club when it comes to their treatment of decent fans, but when there's only 9,000 of us showing up every fortnight, one day, they'll have to take note.

Can't see 9000 turning up. The best is an alternative, an alternative IN Brisbane. You only have to see how Logan has embraced the Titans to realise that. The furthest I typically go is Underwood and you see as much Titans gear as Broncos gear. It's a shame that the Crushers were so terribly run and came into existance during Super League.

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

. Wankers like Perth Red and PBB expect them to turn up every week - while they turn up to their one Perth game or 12 Brisbane games and hang sh*t on Sydney. 30k last night wasn't great considering 2million people live here and more than half the crowd were wearing black.

Well the problem is a lot of the people live in Brisbane but dont go for the broncos. Buggers me why, maybe they just love the c**k. Which is why they belong in sydney.

Brisbanes crowds should be celebrated for the fact they are large and atmospheric.

 

[Brycey]

Does noone understand that while individually the crowds are poor in Sydney, cutting clubs will also cut fans? This assumption that less fans > bigger crowds is rubbish, you're going to alienate thousands of people in Sydney!

Who cares about alienating 12k of people when the rest dont give a damn when you can include places like CC and Sunshine Coast with 20k averages and a community who gives a damn about their team.

Poorboys it's easy for brisbane to get those crowds,one team one city. If we had less teams in sydney the crowd would be bigger.

Also why is no one having a go at roosters crowds? They have to have one of the smallest fan bases in Sydney (judging from crwds anyway)

Sydney=4.5million. Brisbane =1.8million. And yes less Sydney teams is the way to go to concentrate the fan base of Sydney teams over a period of time.
Plus the Roosters average 16k thanks to our first big matches against Bunnies, Dragons and Broncs.

 

[Brycey]

:sleeper: What a stupid point to make. Completely different locations.

Oh the old "I'm right, I don't care about what anyone else says" argument :lol:...

People make this grand argument that Sydney has a population of 4.4 million and should be getting full houses to every RL game.

FACT: Sydney has the most migrants per capita, primarily from non-RL nations. People with no interest in RL.

FACT: Sydney, while having a bigger population than other cities, also has a more crowded market and therefore more competition for crowds. What actually opposes AFL in Melbourne? AFL is Melbourne, Sydney's more than just RL.

FACT: Sydney has 8 clubs, Brisbane 1. Of course Brisbane's crowds are going to be bigger. They only get 12 games a year FFS!

Everything you say just strengthens the argument that Sydney needs less teams.

Do you think most people on here like Sydney getting sh*t crowds so they can get a one up them, no! Sydney has too many teams. All I want to see is a competition that shows itself off in the best way and solid crowd attendances is the first way to go about that.

If you have all these 'facts' that are moreso excuses, all it is is giving reason as to why we need less teams in Sydney with a strategic long term plan to concentrate fan bases of Sydney clubs over a period of time (ala Tigers).

 

[Brycey]

Can't see 9000 turning up. The best is an alternative, an alternative IN Brisbane. You only have to see how Logan has embraced the Titans to realise that. The furthest I typically go is Underwood and you see as much Titans gear as Broncos gear. It's a shame that the Crushers were so terribly run and came into existance during Super League.

I agree, I think Logan has definately embraced Titans as their team and even some in Brisbane see GC as the alternative to the Broncos.

Unfortunately I think a 2nd Brisbane team may have left their run too late. Its been a long time since the BRL/Broncos saga - this generation are oblivious to it and the Broncos are just too powerful and too in your face in Brisbane for another team to reach their success; which lets face it would be the only reason in giving Brisbane a second team. We don't need another mediocre team when we have about 6-7 playing down south.

 

[ramble_on]

The fact is sydney crowds are sh*t!

If it was calculated as to how many people attended games in Sydney as a whole each week as a percentage of their poulation and compared to the same for Brisbane/Gold Coast I'm fairly certain your comments would be made to look even more ridiculous than they do at first glance......

A quick check shows Sydney teams average about 126,000 per week to all home games this season and Brisbane/Gold Coast average 34,000. Allowing that the Queensland teams get lower away team supporters at home games it's still pretty safe to say that you're in no position to be critical of crowd figures in Sydney, the TRUE heartland of Rugby League.....

 

[dgsfan]

I'm just confused as to why the AFL teams in Melbourne can get 80,000 crowds and average 30,000, when teams in Sydney can't. Culture?

 

[Brycey]

ramble on - Sydney crowds get under 10k crowds. This day and age clubs should be averaging over 15k, that isnt asking alot. Sydney crowds are crap - and the longer people like you keep your head in the sand the longer things will stay the same and our game will suffer for it.

 

[t-ba]

ramble on - Sydney crowds get under 10k crowds. This day and age clubs should be averaging over 15k, that isnt asking alot. Sydney crowds are crap - and the longer people like you keep your head in the sand the longer things will stay the same and our game will suffer for it.

Would you be happy for the Roosters to go under? Would you follow Rugby League as passionately if the Roosters no longer played in the top flight? Relocated to Gosford or Adelaide?

I say this as someone who has openly stated on the board that I think my side will more likely than not end of up on the Sunshine Coast in 2020.

Ipswich and The Sunshine Coast are the next logical choices for Queensland. Ipswich would make an ideal 2nd Brisbane side due to its unique history and its proximity to the Darling Downs.

 

[Brycey]

Would you be happy for the Roosters to go under? Would you follow Rugby League as passionately if the Roosters no longer played in the top flight? Relocated to Gosford or Adelaide?

I say this as someone who has openly stated on the board that I think my side will more likely than not end of up on the Sunshine Coast in 2020.

Ipswich and The Sunshine Coast are the next logical choices for Queensland. Ipswich would make an ideal 2nd Brisbane side due to its unique history and its proximity to the Darling Downs.

Like any Roosters fan I wouldnt be happy to see my team go under. And yes I would still follow them if they were exiled to the NSW Cup or relocated.

I think with the Roosters either us or Souths have an expiry date in our area. The area is not big enough for both and unless the Roosters were to play where a lot of our fanbase has since shifted to and lives (west Sydney) then unless uncle Nick keeps the cash flow going for us to stay in Bondi we will have to move - I cannot ever see the Roosters dying though too much money and property tied to us.

I can see an eventual move to the CC though and for the good of the game I endorse it.

 

[stormtragic]

I'm just confused as to why the AFL teams in Melbourne can get 80,000 crowds and average 30,000, when teams in Sydney can't. Culture?

its a culture thing, AFL sees that and thinks is represents support for league...sydney fc averages 14k as the only football code during summer and nobody mentions then..attending the footy in sydney isnt the main thing they have to do

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

A quick check shows Sydney teams average about 126,000 per week to all home games this season .

you sure?

you didnt double that figure?

 

[Timmah]

Do you really want someone to undo your pathetic argument with facts again?

Or do you just want to isolate one or two words from someone's post as another insult?

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

Do you really want someone to undo your pathetic argument with facts again?

Or do you just want to isolate one or two words from someone's post as another insult?

My 'pathetic argument' is sydney crowds are crap.

If this isnt the case, they must be good, no? Dogs crowds good are they? Awesome atmosphere at ANZ hey? 12k for a dragons home game a decent figure? Having a hard time getting a good seat to the footy in sydney lately?

Thats right, cause if you oppose my argument, (which again) is the fact sydney crowds are POOR, then you must be OK with the crowd numbers.

126k attend sydney games each week? yeah right.

 

[Brycey]

Timmah your 'facts' are excuses.

And your 'facts' dont change the reality that the crowds in Sydney are not up to NRL standard no matter what the circumstances.