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D day for Parramatta

Name three players Parramatta must keep if they are to make the playoffs.


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ACTPanthers

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I have copped it it's heartbreaking for us eels fans all I'm saying is if the amount isn't as
High it should be known that's all. I hope you never have to go through this ever

I get that, but to want an apology is ludicrous no matter the amount.
 

Parralike

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Who cares? The fact is Parramatta are at the bottom of the table on zero points and after years of systematically cheating the cap they've got nothing to show for it.....not even a spot in the Top 8. That's what I meant by "stupid".
Yes I agree ridiculous
 

Glen

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Even if the penalty warrants a reduction after the Eels counter it the NRL won't do it. For a supposed 'preliminary' and 'proposed' penalty they have played it out very publicly and Greenberg will appear far too weak if he backs off.

Not that the Eels board has a lot of credibility at this stage but it's funny that everyone has taken the NRL's position as 100% spot on when they clearly have a political agenda at play at the same time
 
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None of this is Schubert's fault. He can only act on information and records provided. If anything was hidden from him, he is not to know
 

parramaniac2516

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Who cares? The fact is Parramatta are at the bottom of the table on zero points and after years of systematically cheating the cap they've got nothing to show for it.....not even a spot in the Top 8. That's what I meant by "stupid".

Still on 12 points...NRL won't make the decision until after all this has been said and done. NRL have said they will now decide the punishment once the club has responded could be more, could be less. If they aren't going to even taken the 12 points why even issue a statement. Issue the breach notice let the club respond then make the decision.

What if it's found we weren't over the cap as much and decide to take less than 12 points it's going to look bad on the nrl. What if no points are taken at all I'm sure you as a opposition club would be annoyed and believe the nrl have gone soft.
 
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Nice Beaver

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Well it was ok until NRL rolled 3 years of tpa's into this years cap not saying that's wrong
Just telling you why Schubert said all was ok !

Schubert's credibility looks to be shot if you ask me.

Time will tell I guess, but I think his figures may be a bit rubbery.

I guess if you get the same bloke in to look at the books after he has previously given you the all clear, he will naturally try to bring down the amount of breach given the dopey prick said there was no issue at all 6 months ago.....
 

Perth Red

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yes no conflict of interest at all!

Glen what do you see as the NRL's "political agenda" in this? is it oust the current Eels board/management or to force reform of splitting leagues club and nrl club governance?

re schuberts failure to spot this over the years, Greenburg has pretty much admitted that short of a whistleblower the alibility of the NRl to uncover salary cap cheating is zero, "but we will find out eventually" as he puts it lol.
 
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Parralike

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Schubert's credibility looks to be shot if you ask me.

Time will tell I guess, but I think his figures may be a bit rubbery.

I guess if you get the same bloke in to look at the books after he has previously given you the all clear, he will naturally try to bring down the amount of breach given the dopey prick said there was no issue at all 6 months ago.....
So did the NRL but like you say wait and see we all want it over as much as anyone
 

Parralike

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Schubert's credibility looks to be shot if you ask me.

Time will tell I guess, but I think his figures may be a bit rubbery.

I guess if you get the same bloke in to look at the books after he has previously given you the all clear, he will naturally try to bring down the amount of breach given the dopey prick said there was no issue at all 6 months ago.....

Why are schuberts figures rubbery he did the audit before all the tpsa were added
 

Nice Beaver

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Why are schuberts figures rubbery he did the audit before all the tpsa were added

Schubert was hired by Parramatta in November last year to come in a "clean up the mess" as a consultant.

It's my understanding that he thought he had cleaned up that mess?

The NRL have obviously subsequently come in and found breaches worth $570,000 for this season.

How do you suppose Shubert's figures are not rubbery given he came in and checked the salary cap situation out and missed $570,000??
 

Parralike

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Schubert was hired by Parramatta in November last year to come in a "clean up the mess" as a consultant.

It's my understanding that he thought he had cleaned up that mess?

The NRL have obviously subsequently come in and found breaches worth $570,000 for this season.

How do you suppose Shubert's figures are not rubbery given he came in and checked the salary cap situation out and missed $570,000??
The NRL added tpa's to the cap I'm not claiming anything here I wish it would go away
Obviously I said I'd accept the NRL's findings and I will when it's all done and dusted !!
 
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Schubert was hired by Parramatta in November last year to come in a "clean up the mess" as a consultant.

It's my understanding that he thought he had cleaned up that mess?

The NRL have obviously subsequently come in and found breaches worth $570,000 for this season.

How do you suppose Shubert's figures are not rubbery given he came in and checked the salary cap situation out and missed $570,000??

Fair go mate. If the NRL can't find it unless there is a whistleblower, how could anyone expect Schubert to find it.

By the way how clever to bring him in to say yes all looks good but don't tell him you are doing shoddy deceitful crap behind his back.

Maybe in time he was to be the scapegoat
 

Glen

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yes no conflict of interest at all!

Glen what do you see as the NRL's "political agenda" in this? is it oust the current Eels board/management or to force reform of splitting leagues club and nrl club governance?
Yea, not claiming that the cheating hasn't occurred. Just that the public nature of the not-yet-final decision and the follow-up comments about the directors hanging on and putting the club in further jeopardy is a very deliberate strategy to drum up the public pressure we are seeing on them to resign.

Everything about the timing and nature of the announcement has felt very deliberate to achieve the outcomes they want. And it may well be in the best interest of Parra in the end
 

Nice Beaver

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Fair go mate. If the NRL can't find it unless there is a whistleblower, how could anyone expect Schubert to find it.

By the way how clever to bring him in to say yes all looks good but don't tell him you are doing shoddy deceitful crap behind his back.

Maybe in time he was to be the scapegoat

I would have thought if they were going to the trouble of paying for him to come in and he was no longer an NRL cap auditor, then they would provide him with whatever information he needed to conduct the review.

They obviously knew there were issues. Otherwise why bring him in? The whistle had already been blown, so to speak, at that point.

But in saying that, if these idiots did not know what information to give him and were ignorant to certain dealings, then I guess it's a bit difficult to provide him with the details.

You are right, might be a bit harsh to bag out Schubert without knowing what he was disclosed. I was working on the assumption they knew there was an issue and employed him to investigate warts and all to get to the bottom of it.

Or, as you say, he could have been a patsie in this. But this board look to be utter dribblers so I question their mettle to come up with that plan. :lol:
 
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I would have thought if they were going to the trouble of paying for him to come in and he was no longer an NRL cap auditor, then they would provide him with whatever information he needed to conduct the review.

They obviously knew there were issues. Otherwise why bring him in? The whistle had already been blown, so to speak, at that point.

But in saying that, if these idiots did not know what information to give him and were ignorant to certain dealings, then I guess it's a bit difficult to provide him with the details.

You are right, might be a bit harsh to bag out Schubert without knowing what he was disclosed. I was working on the assumption they knew there was an issue and employed him to investigate warts and all to get to the bottom of it.

Or, as you say, he could have been a patsie in this. But this board look to be utter dribblers so I question their mettle to come up with that plan. :lol:
Blow the whistle on themselves? Not likely
 

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