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D day for Parramatta

Name three players Parramatta must keep if they are to make the playoffs.


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some11

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Breaking news - Danny Weidler has just tweeted that Ian Schubert will be reporting to the NRL that the Eels are Cap compliant as of today.

Great news, now the make the eight hype train begins.

Can Parra members vote to turf the board members?
 

Jaegerex

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This is how the Sydney Morning Herald are reporting it -

Hope that helps. I've highlighted some pertinent bits.

The other thing it mentions is that Schubert was arguing the amount they need to cull.
So his reporting that the Eels are cap compliant may be to his own figures not the amount the NRL have set previously, hoping instead that they lower their figure rather than have the club meet the current $570k.
 

dwight12

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So schubert is acting as a consultant to help the eels rectify their salary cap issues in which grew yearly whilst he was in charge of auditing? Hmmm.
 

POPEYE

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If Parramatta need to shed one more player surely Arthur's mate Bellamy could babysit Gutherson for a couple of seasons, he's wasted on the wing at Parramatta anyway
 

Card Shark

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Is it true players received cash? You think they didn't know something iffy was going on if that's the case? If parra are now cleared to earn points you have to say they have got off very very lightly after years of systemic cheating. Such is the NRL, I guess we better get used to it and shouldn't be surprised after the slap on the wrist to Cronulla for systemic drug cheating.

Here we go again.....

We suffered for 2 seasons for what went on for 6 weeks....

Parra will suffer for 1/2 a season for what went on 6 years....
 

POPEYE

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Is it true players received cash? You think they didn't know something iffy was going on if that's the case? If parra are now cleared to earn points you have to say they have got off very very lightly after years of systemic cheating. Such is the NRL, I guess we better get used to it and shouldn't be surprised after the slap on the wrist to Cronulla for systemic drug cheating.

This is Australia PR, we didn't forgive Ned for killing policemen but we do our best to understand the circumstances of it, not hard to grasp that if the bloke was left alone and not persecuted his misdemeanors wouldn't have affected his fellow citizens anywhere near as much as the constabulary would like us to imagine . . . there's just as many people cheering for the Eels now as there were denigrating them pre-Arthur
 

Snappy

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NRL tells Parramatta Eels they must shed Anthony Watmough and another player
Date
May 9, 2016 - 9:00PM
Chris Barrett

The NRL has refused to budge on a demand that Parramatta slash $575,000 from their player roster to play for points against South Sydney on Friday, leaving the Eels having to shed one more player on at least $250,000 a year, as well as Anthony Watmough and the already departed Ryan Morgan.

On an eventful day on two fronts for the club, an injunction order was lifted in the NSW Supreme Court, leaving Eels chairman Steve Sharp, chief executive John Boulous, head of football Daniel Anderson, deputy chairman Tom Issa and director Peter Serrao suspended and limited to basic duties at the club. While the dropping of that order was negotiated by the barrister for the five men, Arthur Moses, SC, and NRL lawyers – with an agreement hurriedly scribbled on a piece of A4 paper – there were further talks on Monday at Moore Park as Ian Schubert, the Eels' representative in salary cap talks with League Central, met with cap auditor Jamie L'Oste-Brown.

"The club's very confident we can get to where we need to be for this weekend," said Schubert, himself a former NRL salary cap auditor. "We've got a little bit of homework to do, throw some numbers up in the air and see what happens."

Schubert, after doing his own calculations, had endeavoured to have the NRL relax its position significantly on how much the club needed to shed to be competitive against Souths.
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However, L'Oste-Brown is understood to have stood firm and reiterated the requirement for the Eels to reduce player spending by $575,000 to be eligible to play for points at Pirtek Stadium on Friday. The NRL is expected to approve the career-ending injury application made by the Eels about Watmough and backdate his cap exemption to include about half his $900,000 salary, which is propped up by third-party agreements. The exit of Morgan to Melbourne allows Parramatta to include about half his $140,000 contract, leaving the club to erase $55,000 from its roster.

They also have to promote three new players into their top-25 squad on the minimum wage – which for the remainder of the season is about $40,000 – meaning the figure they must urgently shave from their roster is increased to about $175,000. That would appear to effectively leave them having to shed one more player who is on at least $350,000 because only half of that wage would be taken off the salary cap but it is believed they are working towards lowering that figure to a player in the $250,000-$300,000 range by backdating payments elsewhere.

Schubert is understood to be tossing around several options but it is unlikely the club would let Junior Paulo go immediately to Canberra, who have signed the prop to a two-year deal from next season and are keen to have him straight away. Paulo is believed to be on about $180,000 at the Eels.

Rival teams remain sceptical about the removal of a large chunk of Watmough's deal from the Eels' cap, believing it sets a dangerous precedent. However, that scenario is set to be given the green light with Parramatta to pay out his contract and wait to be reimbursed after filing an insurance claim.

Parramatta board members were, meanwhile, meeting on Monday after an agreement was reached between the NRL and lawyers for Sharp, Boulous, Anderson, Issa and Serrao for the injunction against the suspensions to be dissolved in court.
A hearing date before Justice Stevenson was set down for May 31. The NRL agreed not to stop the five performing their fiduciary and statutory duties under the Corporations Act while they are suspended, as well as assisting with the club's response to its show-cause notice, but any points accrued by the team in coming weeks could be later stripped if the officials continue to be involved beyond that.
Moses SC admitted there were "grave allegations" against his clients, who are facing deregistration, but claimed they had not been given satisfactory notice before being suspended when the NRL handed down its sanctions last Tuesday. "One would have thought they would have been afforded procedural fairness before their reputations were slandered or impacted," he said.
Parramatta and the officials have until June 3 to respond to the breach notice. A final determination on their penalty is expected in mid-June.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...mough-and-another-player-20160509-goq56y.html
 

Abacus

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They also have to promote three new players into their top-25 squad on the minimum wage – which for the remainder of the season is about $40,000 – meaning the figure they must urgently shave from their roster is increased to about $175,000.

This just seems wrong to me. It suggests the club has to include half of any released players' payments in the cap plus another 3 upgrades?

The cap is your Top 25 paid players. If Watmough is released and counted in the cap at $450k, then he is 1 of those 25 players. No need to upgrade someone into the Top 25 cap.

Upgraded deals for any players promoted to the full time squad would be subject to the CBA minimum conditions - but that would not see Watmough shifted from the 25 highest paid players in the club for 2016.
 

Dogs Of War

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The cap is your Top 25 paid players. If Watmough is released and counted in the cap at $450k, then he is 1 of those 25 players. No need to upgrade someone into the Top 25 cap.

Your abacus is broken. If he is released so not counted under the cap then someone needs to replace him. You can't have it both ways.
 

Billythekid

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I'm not sure watmough retiring is a dangerous precedent. He is actually injured and should be retiring really, he also hasn't played in some time. It's not as bad as the Gasnier incident. Just massively backed a players contract pay them peanuts and then just get then to quietly retire so you don't have to pay them out.
 

betcats

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They also have to promote three new players into their top-25 squad on the minimum wage ? which for the remainder of the season is about $40,000 ? meaning the figure they must urgently shave from their roster is increased to about $175,000.

This just seems wrong to me. It suggests the club has to include half of any released players' payments in the cap plus another 3 upgrades?

The cap is your Top 25 paid players. If Watmough is released and counted in the cap at $450k, then he is 1 of those 25 players. No need to upgrade someone into the Top 25 cap.

Upgraded deals for any players promoted to the full time squad would be subject to the CBA minimum conditions - but that would not see Watmough shifted from the 25 highest paid players in the club for 2016.

He isn't a player at all if he retires lol wtf of course he has to be replaced in the FG squad.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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James hooper is reporting Nathan Peats will be the one released

Rough on Peats who has been great for the Eels. If true I can only assume it has to do with Peats being off contract this year and Norman being a higher priority to re-sign. They probably figure they won't be able to re-sign peats so might as well cut him loose now.
 

Billythekid

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Peats will be a great signing for someone. As good as Smith has been for us he'd be a good player to take over the mantle and we need to move on eventually.
 

POPEYE

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He isn't a player at all if he retires lol wtf of course he has to be replaced in the FG squad.

and there'll be plenty of promising youngsters willing to play for a bowl of rice now and wait for a brown paper bag later . . . when Parramatta learn to be street wise. Parramatta is about to become a magnet instead of a disembarkation point, let's see if the Fitzy Syndrome can f**k that up
 

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