Daniel Mortimer dropped from Parramatta Eels side for second match running - AND OMG

[hineyrulz]

I'm ashamed to say this, but Finchy is a better option to a team at 6 than Morts.

Sad but true.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Not really. If you put in 8 to 10 kicks a game, and pass the ball 20 times a game, then chances eventually some of those will lead to tries.

Not true at all.

Otherwise anybody could come into first grade and do it. Jamie Soward has put one person through a gap this year despite playing in a team that dominates possession.

Until Robson played against the Sharks reserve grade side he hadn't done it all year. There are other regular NRL halves who have less LBA than Mortimer despite throwing as many passes.

The skillset is being able to do it consistently, ie. every match rather than every 5 where chances are you've fluked it.

No the skillset is being able to do it at all. The consistency comes about through confidence and experience.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

he's certainly worth percevering given that he's still only 22 but he definitely needs some time in reserve grade and maybe we should start tinkering with his positional play as maybe a benchy because he's never going to be an out and out half.

If he's going to make it at all it will be as a halfback. Teams can't afford to have more than one bloke his size in the defensive line.

As long as we've got Sandow at the club Mortimer will be no more than a backup here. If he wants to sign a backup's contract at the end of next year I'm sure we'd oblige but otherwise he'll probably have to go elsewhere (also on a backup's contract).

 

[Stagger eel]

If he's going to make it at all it will be as a halfback. Teams can't afford to have more than one bloke his size in the defensive line.

As long as we've got Sandow at the club Mortimer will be no more than a backup here. If he wants to sign a backup's contract at the end of next year I'm sure we'd oblige but otherwise he'll probably have to go elsewhere (also on a backup's contract).

i think 14 is his best position and it always was, if he can turn out anything like PJ than it can only be a positive thing, he's never ever started off the bench in first grade and i would be intrigued to see what he can do the 50th to 60 minute mark..i know Mitch is clearly more effective coming off the bench than he is starting.

 

[bartman]

there are some idiots out there that think he should of been named on tuesday for the wenty, if he was there would of been half a dozen journos and cameras bombarding a suburban park straight after the game as it was 1 journo and a photographer were there and the journo had the presence of mind to walk on the park after the game 30 metres from the fence to smother him for an interview.

Well, now that worry is over and there's been an article about his game, hopefully he'll be officially named for Wenty this Tuesday...

Unless OldManCraigy is half right, and Morts has a not-to-be-named-for-Wenty clause in his contract ;-)

 

[eel01s]

i think 14 is his best position and it always was, if he can turn out anything like PJ than it can only be a positive thing, he's never ever started off the bench in first grade and i would be intrigued to see what he can do the 50th to 60 minute mark..i know Mitch is clearly more effective coming off the bench than he is starting.

Stagger, I would agree with trying Morts at 14 except that he just doesn't have the speed to excel in that position. On a few occasions this season Morts has found himself in space, but did not have the pace to go on with it.

Ideally your No. 14 brings some x-factor or explosiveness. PJ Marsh had it, sadly I just don't think Morts does.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Stagger, I would agree with trying Morts at 14 except that he just doesn't have the speed to excel in that position. On a few occasions this season Morts has found himself in space, but did not have the pace to go on with it.

Ideally your No. 14 brings some x-factor or explosiveness. PJ Marsh had it, sadly I just don't think Morts does.

Agreed.

Morts had the speed when he first came into grade but he doesn't have it any more.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Stagger, I would agree with trying Morts at 14 except that he just doesn't have the speed to excel in that position. On a few occasions this season Morts has found himself in space, but did not have the pace to go on with it.

Ideally your No. 14 brings some x-factor or explosiveness. PJ Marsh had it, sadly I just don't think Morts does.

Morts has the y-factor.

 

[Stagger eel]

Stagger, I would agree with trying Morts at 14 except that he just doesn't have the speed to excel in that position. On a few occasions this season Morts has found himself in space, but did not have the pace to go on with it.

Ideally your No. 14 brings some x-factor or explosiveness. PJ Marsh had it, sadly I just don't think Morts does.

well you could be 100% correct, however he's never came on against a tired defence so given that we're stuck with the kid for another season, he may well be worth a try, he's certainly familiar with the position through his SG Ball days

 

[yy_cheng]

another thing about Mortz, he predominantly plays left half, thus passing right to left. If he was hooker, an he pass left to right?

 

[Suitman]

another thing about Mortz, he predominantly plays left half, thus passing right to left. If he was hooker, can he pass left to right?

No.

He can't kick either. Nor can he visualise a play or set up a support, or make a break through pure speed, or kick 40/20's, nor does he know how to setup a support after being put through a gap.

But boy oh boy, he does a great tabloid interview.

Suity

 

[yy_cheng]

No.

He can't kick either. Nor can he visualise a play or set up a support, or make a break through pure speed, or kick 40/20's, nor does he know how to setup a support after being put through a gap.

But boy oh boy, he does a great tabloid interview.

Suity

That sounds like a guy who played for Parra in the 6 jersey not long ago.

 

[bartman]

So if he can't play 9, and therefore can't play 14... and if he's currently 3rd in line for a spot in our halves... and if we've bought two players for 2012 to also play 6 and 7... then surely we need to be shopping Mortimer around to other clubs or England, rather than paying him $250K pa to learn his trade at Wenty for the next two seasons?

Surely...?

Or can we just give him the job Brett Kenny wanted in our Marketing Department, and be done with it!

 

[yy_cheng]

Could we convert him to be a mormon and take the next 2 years off?

 

[Suitman]

So if he can't play 9, and therefore can't play 14... and if he's currently 3rd in line for a spot in our halves... and if we've bought two players for 2012 to also play 6 and 7... then surely we need to be shopping Mortimer around to other clubs or England, rather than paying him $250K pa to learn his trade at Wenty for the next two seasons?

Surely...?

Or can we just give him the job Brett Kenny wanted in our Marketing Department, and be done with it!

Nope, we should be shopping him around. Failing that, if nothing else, he plays at Wenty and is an expensive back up for a season.

Suity

 

[Gronk]

Nope, we should be shopping him around. Failing that, if nothing else, he plays at Wenty and is an expensive back up for a season.

Suity

SK must see something different in his crystal ball than mine. Unless he sees Morts at age 24 to be anything other than an above agverage first grader, then we are better off telling him that he won't play FG next year and shopping him off. If we have to pay $100k to top up his Souths or Sharks contract then we are still $150k better off than having him play for Wenty in 2012.

 

[strider]

who says that what they print in the paper is what is really going on behind closed doors? who says SK wants him to stay? i reckon they are just letting morts come to the conclusion himself

 

[mickdo]

Daniel will be at 'Before the Score' prior to the Dragons game tonight. I know all his fans will be very keen to attend.