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David Gallop stands down as CEO

Perth Red

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Ok here goes (please feel free to add to the plus or minus list!)

Minus
Underselling TV rights in comparison to our competitior (massive outcomes for the game over a 5year period)
Underselling Internet rights
Underselling Competition Naming Rights
Inability to get the game on FTA nationally at a decent time
Stagnation of number of people attending the game over the last 6 years
Poor decision on betting rights that cost the game millions
His "the game is dying in Sydney" outburst during the century year of what should have been a celebration of the game
Lack of strategy to expand the game (not necessarily introducing new NRL clubs but not having any plan or support for on the road games or supporting affiliated states)
His general demeanor in front of the camera and the perception of weakness it created for the game.
Lack of respect for the game and his position from the media and his inability to reign them in
General funding levels of the game that saw us drop to half the funding of our main competitor
Inconsistency in dealing with players who misbehave

Plus
Tv viewing has gone up
He acted decisively over the salary cap scandals
Got some decent $'s out of the NSW Govt to host the GF (unethical? ;) )
Merchandise sales gone up
 

docbrown

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Ok here goes (please feel free to add to the plus or minus list!)

Well analyzing your list -

Agree
Last Broadcast Rights Deal (TV/Naming/Internet) -
I agree that this is a minus - but - in comparison to our competitor? No offense, but f**k that. The deal was done first for the value of the product at the time. Where he failed was to overcome the archaic structure of the NRL itself (News Limited vs ARL) in order to create competitive tension in the market. You can't blame him for the AFL getting more, you can only blame him for the NRL not getting maximum returns and like I said the main reason was working within the structure at the time.

Inability to get the game on FTA nationally at a decent time -
I agree, impotent on this front.

His "the game is dying in Sydney" outburst during the century year of what should have been a celebration of the game-
Can't remember that one, what was the context?

Tv viewing has gone up-
Yep

He acted decisively over the salary cap scandals-
Agree. I also think he's responded well to other similar issues that crop up from time to time (Cronulla, Canterbury etc)

Got some decent $'s out of the NSW Govt to host the GF -
Yep, they're getting fair value too because there was a competitor if you recall. Big difference to squeezing money out of bush council...

Merchandise sales gone up-
Yep

Debatable -
Stagnation of number of people attending the game over the last 6 years -
If you're talk 2006 to 2011 it went from 16,484 to 17,243 - so 4.6%. Is that stagnant? What is an acceptable growth rate in your opinion?

Lack of strategy to expand the game (not necessarily introducing new NRL clubs but not having any plan or support for on the road games or supporting affiliated states) -
Debatable. They do do work behind the scenes but they can't force clubs to go to places they don't want to go. They do generate business models though.

General funding levels of the game that saw us drop to half the funding of our main competitor -
He never spent a cent he didn't have. But really if this just a rehash of "they didn't get enough money from the broadcast deal" then you're just repeating yourself. If the question is "they didn't spend enough on the places where it needed to be spent" ask yourself - did they have a choice?

Inconsistency in dealing with players who misbehave-
Throw this one open to the floor

Disagree -
Poor decision on betting rights that cost the game millions -
You're using your hindsight powers on this one

His general demeanor in front of the camera and the perception of weakness it created for the game. -
Only perceived as weak by those who already had/have an agenda against him. If anything, that's about as close to a personal attack as you can get - "He had a weak demeanor"...

Lack of respect for the game and his position from the media and his inability to reign them in -
The NRL CEO does not have the power to control what the press says. The job you're thinking of is called 'Grand Supreme Dictator'. It's their job to promote the game in a positive light in the best way they can. I have problems though when it becomes borderline propaganda but that stems from other reasons.
 
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Perth Red

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Well analyzing your list -



Debatable -
Stagnation of number of people attending the game over the last 6 years -
If you're talk 2006 to 2011 it went from 16,484 to 17,243 - so 4.6%. Is that stagnant? What is an acceptable growth rate in your opinion?

Lack of strategy to expand the game (not necessarily introducing new NRL clubs but not having any plan or support for on the road games or supporting affiliated states) -
Debatable. They do do work behind the scenes but they can't force clubs to go to places they don't want to go. They do generate business models though.

General funding levels of the game that saw us drop to half the funding of our main competitor -
He never spent a cent he didn't have. But really if this just a rehash of "they didn't get enough money from the broadcast deal" then you're just repeating yourself. If the question is "they didn't spend enough on the places where it needed to be spent" ask yourself - did they have a choice?

Inconsistency in dealing with players who misbehave-
Throw this one open to the floor

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Not going to try and change your mind on the disagree as each to their own but for the debateable things

Crowds. I don;t consider less than 800 people avg a game a strong increase over a 5 year period tbh. Not done the sums but I doubt that even keeps up with general population growth in NRL team catchment areas so one could argue that crowds, in terms of % of popualtion attending games, have gone down.

Expanding the game: Agree you can;t make clubs move games but plenty of clubs would jump at it, and already do in a hap hazard way, if a decent sized carrot is dangled. The recent decision to play the Oct test in Townsville rather than Perth was just the final hurrah of a man with no vision.

Income: Taking out the two media deals the NRL income is still half of the income of the AFL at a code level, not even considering the difference at a club level.
 

super_coach

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Had the hardest gig in town and did a good job. Trying to get clubs to think beyond themself is a near impossible mission and he made some progress.

He was willing to make some hard calls rightly or wrongly and had to contend with lots of back stabbing.

Anyway Iam sure he will not starve, their will be plenty of job offers in the pipeline
 

Red&BlackBear

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Perth Red said:
Expanding the game: Agree you can;t make clubs move games but plenty of clubs would jump at it, and already do in a hap hazard way, if a decent sized carrot is dangled. The recent decision to play the Oct test in Townsville rather than Perth was just the final hurrah of a man with no vision.

L

Why shouldn't Townsville have a test rather than Perth? The North Queenslanders have been tremendously loyal to the game of rugby league for decades and since the Cowboys inception, they've always shown up to games regardless of how good or bad the team is doing. They haven't had a test since the world cup? Have they ever held Australia Kangaroos at their ground? The fact that they get put on the lower list for special games when they do more in a month then your state does in. 5 years for the game is more than enough reason to hold a game there. Quite frankly, be it the outdated stadium or tv treatment in general the Cowboys have been treated like 2nd rate citizens for too long and considering what the region does for the game on an overall scale, that's bs. They deserve the test more than any other place.
 

Brutus

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I just heard on the news that David Moffett has labelled the Gallop axing as a "disgrace" and he has predicted another Super League style war as a result.

f**king Moffo...
 
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Penrose Warrior

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He says things for effect. Plus the power is out in Rangiora (where he lives), it's bloody freezing and his brain seems to suffered both fates as well.
 

Moffo

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I just heard on the news that David Moffett has labelled the Gallop axing as a "disgrace" and he has predicted another Super League style war as a result.

f**king Moffo...

Look, it's just my opinion guys. f**k you im off to the Swiss alps to go ride my bike
 
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haha worst excuse I have seen so far. That is such blatant bullshit

No, it isn't.

The only TV figures that have gone through the roof in his time are Origin ratings, the rest have been steadily climbing but that is easily put down to population growth.

He could have had a marked effect on them by making 9 show games in the non-Rugby League states, but he didn't.
 

Desert Qlder

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A decision of this scale, given the timing says many things to me.

The fact the Commission headed by John Grant have released Gallop in the middle of Broadcast Rights negotiations is a pointed one. From my perspective it seems that Grant and the ARLC are coming to the realisation that there is about to be a great deal of money to come into the game. In his own words, it is a "change in the business cycle". To put it bluntly, he doesn't want Gallop in charge of that money.

The decisiveness is to be applauded. For the past few months things have been relatively quiet on the Commission front. But with this decision it displays the fact that the Commissioners have been eaagerly planning the direction the game has been heading. Be in no doubt, these guys are hard at work planning a better Rugby League for us all. There is no dilly-dallying on their part.

It matters little to me they've made the decision when they did. The criticism from the Gallop supporters (News Ltd, Ozzie rules fans, 2UE, The Roar et.) is that we are right in the middle of the Origin period. But since when is Origin about the administrators. We hardly need David Gallop making presentations and speeches at the conclusion of the series. Origin will be just fine without him. Phil Rothfield's 'Control Freak' piece has been the most amusing. The knives have been sharpened and they are already been thrust in John Grant's direction. I think Grant has every capability to handle a few two-bit journalists slinging shit.

I have high anticipation for the next move, as this one has given me great confidence in the new administration. It stated all the right things.
 

Moffo

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Show me where you think the ARLC had official power over gallop or news? Come on guys...they want you to think that the ARLC have the power. The reality is that they have f**k all

Dont want to sound like a tosser but I see these strategic power plays every day where I work. I can smell the bullshit whiff a mile away
 

Moffo

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Put it this way..how many dollars do ARLC have invested in the game?

Think about it. Come on. Whilst news still pump in squillions they will be running the show. Grant is nothing more then a poxy figurehead for a poxy commission
 
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You're just pissed off because a week or so ago you started a thread whinging that the commission hadn't done anything and that you weren't impressed blah blah blah , then they up and punt Gallop.

You do realise they only did it to show you up don't you?
 

Moffo

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Show me how you think the ARLC punted Gallop. Where is the proof?

FMD you are dumb
 

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