Defector Bateman

[Nutz]

Who ditches a club during a tough time to seek greener pastures? It says a lot about a player’s commitment to the cause.
It's the second time he's done this, earlier with the Raiders.
Frankly I don't care if he doesn't come back.
Tell the tosser to quit so we can offer some good coin to a workhorse like Hopgood.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/07/27/leave-bateman-abroad-why-the-back-rowers-actions-sum-up-the-sorry-tigers/

 

[Old Time Tiger]

He won’t be back and thinking about it, I’d be surprised if Bennett would want him.

 

[Nutz]

He won’t be back and thinking about it, I’d be surprised if Bennett would want him.

But he's still on our books.
The only thing I'm thinking of is he plays excellent footy back home to bump up his worth and Burgess takes over his contract. That's a lot of dosh for them to cough up though.

 

[Fordy20]

I reckon we'd be happy paying $300k a season over the next few years for him to play somewhere else.

 

[Nutz]

I reckon we'd be happy paying $300k a season over the next few years for him to play somewhere else.

I agree. I think that will happen.
Depends on his form I guess.

 

[Tiger Ted]

He won’t be back and thinking about it, I’d be surprised if Bennett would want him.

Agree as Bennett wanting him is a total fabrication by the oxygen thief Rothshit

 

[Tiger05]

I'd like to blame him but I think the club pushed him out. I reckon they tried to push him out of his whole contract but they stuffed it up so bad no one wants him for that coin.

I hope he doesn't come back.

 

[Nutz]

I'd like to blame him but I think the club pushed him out. I reckon they tried to push him out of his whole contract but they stuffed it up so bad no one wants him for that coin.

I hope he doesn't come back.

If his excuse is that Benji is giving more kudos to the young lads rather than him or the other senior players then stuff him.
He has done little except give away stupid penalties and sin bins.

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

I reckon we'd be happy paying $300k a season over the next few years for him to play somewhere else.

I reckon if we push his buttons hard enough we can get out of his contract completely. That's why I think we've allowed him to go home. It's what we should be trying to do.

Let him enjoy himself back home for a couple of months and when his manager inevitably calls to talk turkey we put our foot down and say "nah mate, see ya Nov 1. And by the way you'll be playing in the middle, and you no longer have a sponsored car."

Let's see what unfolds. This will be a big test of Richo.

 

[BrotherJim05]

I can't help but think "what if" we didn't sack Madge. We would have kept Hastings, gotten rid of Brooks, never signed Bateman and by all reports signed Manu and A. Chrichton. Papli'i would have actually put in and we'd be a completely different team.

Anyway, whatever, another Sheenius signing on the way out the door.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Bateman always seemed like the dud signing to me. 4 years for a small forward, yuck. It pissed me off how he'd play the end of year tests, then not get back here til the end of January, completely taking the piss.

 

[Nutz]

I reckon if we push his buttons hard enough we can get out of his contract completely. That's why I think we've allowed him to go home. It's what we should be trying to do.

Let him enjoy himself back home for a couple of months and when his manager inevitably calls to talk turkey we put our foot down and say "nah mate, see ya Nov 1. And by the way you'll be playing in the middle, and you no longer have a sponsored car."

Let's see what unfolds. This will be a big test of Richo.

I don't think Richo will be intimidated

 

[Wizardman]

I watched his game for Warrington. He looked a bit lost but that is to be expected. He ended up doing a lot of grunt work........certainly no loss so far.
In a funny way, we need him to play well to reduce the cost of letting him go.

 

[Nutz]

I reckon if we push his buttons hard enough we can get out of his contract completely. That's why I think we've allowed him to go home. It's what we should be trying to do.

Let him enjoy himself back home for a couple of months and when his manager inevitably calls to talk turkey we put our foot down and say "nah mate, see ya Nov 1. And by the way you'll be playing in the middle, and you no longer have a sponsored car."

Let's see what unfolds. This will be a big test of Richo.

He'd be the smallest middle in the comp so your plan sounds good
His latest rep efforts for England were outstanding. The only way he'll be staying over there is to play great footy so clubs line up to pay for him.
His age, price and length of contract are the stumbling blocks.
It's a lot of money for ESL clubs.
Do you know if we can get out of paying for him (sal cap) is he quits to stay in the dart? I imagine that the answer would be yes but do you think I can find a reference.....geez

 

[Tiger05]

He'd be the smallest middle in the comp so your plan sounds good
His latest rep efforts for England were outstanding. The only way he'll be staying over there is to play great footy so clubs line up to pay for him.
His age, price and length of contract are the stumbling blocks.
It's a lot of money for ESL clubs.
Do you know if we can get out of paying for him (sal cap) is he quits to stay in the dart? I imagine that the answer would be yes but do you think I can find a reference.....geez

I saw an article that he has been bad mouthing the club. Surely you can just sack him for that crap. It's unprofessional.

 

[Nutz]

I saw an article that he has been bad mouthing the club. Surely you can just sack him for that crap. It's unprofessional.

Yes it was in the Telegraph but I don't have a subscription. Probably hear about it on 360 tonight.

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

He'd be the smallest middle in the comp so your plan sounds good
His latest rep efforts for England were outstanding. The only way he'll be staying over there is to play great footy so clubs line up to pay for him.
His age, price and length of contract are the stumbling blocks.
It's a lot of money for ESL clubs.
Do you know if we can get out of paying for him (sal cap) is he quits to stay in the dart? I imagine that the answer would be yes but do you think I can find a reference.....geez

Absolutely you can get out of paying his future contract, as long as both parties agree to it.

That's why I think we should make it clear to him and his management there will be no easy road if he comes back and doesn't void his contract completely. If he wants to get money he'll be expected back to fulfil his contract and he'll be flogged like a government mule.

We need to make it clear he won't get to stay in the UK and get paid any money by us. This should then force his hand, as it's pretty clear he doesn't like being in Australia.

 

[Nutz]

Absolutely you can get out of paying his future contract, as long as both parties agree to it.

I don't know where I've read it but I'm unsure it's it's as easy as that, regarding the cap that is.
Have you got a ref Dom?

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

Contract law mate. If all the parties to a contract want to void it they can.

All this talk about having to pay out a certain amount and keep it on our cap is BS. Clubs only do this because it suits them more to get rid of the player and cop the financial and cap hit. You can certainly get out of a contract providing all parties agree to it.

Conversely, if we want a player to go, but they want to stay, and they're contracted, they have every right to stay. Similar to Sullivan. And if a player wants to go and we want them to stay, and they're contracted, they stay. Similar to the issue with Galvin, or his management.

 

[Tiger05]

I don't know where I've read it but I'm unsure it's it's as easy as that, regarding the cap that is.
Have you got a ref Dom?

If both parties agree there is no issue but most players are going to want to get their money.