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DeMerge Magpies and Tigers

carcharias

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/ph...sydney-nrl-clubs/story-fndujljl-1227565318095


IN the next few years the NRL is going to have to make some tough calls on expansion and the survival of nine clubs in the saturated Sydney market.

I love the traditional teams more than any others but the fact remains Sydney cannot host nine clubs in a national competition forever.
Not if they are to be competitive long term for sponsorship and crowds against the likes of Brisbane and North Queensland, the two clubs that fought out last weekend’s greatest grand final ever.
Rugby league has an average crowd of around 15,000 and it has not grown for more than a decade.
To get to 20,000, the game needs to expand into growth areas.
A second Brisbane team, Perth or a second New Zealand side are the obvious areas.
So where does that leave the Sydney clubs? Who is most vulnerable?
My team the Cronulla Sharks were once the obvious danger but they have got their act together under chairman Damian Keogh, with the property development income, a competitive football side and the fact they still own their home ground.
In my view the team facing the biggest challenges is without question the Wests Tigers.

NRL chief executive Dave Smith told me in an interview last week that the club was not his problem.
The NRL lent them money to prop up the Balmain side of the joint venture but had absolutely no say in the operations of the club.


This is a shame because even the NRL would do a better job of running the Wests Tigers than the current management.
Weekend reports that personality player Marty Taupau wants out is the latest of a series of blows that proves the administration is not up to the standards required.
The fact they are still supporting coach Jason Taylor when it is so obvious he is the main cause of their problems is bordering on a scandal.


This has nothing to do about the fact the person running the club is a woman. I’d be saying exactly the same if it was male chairman.
Other females in the game are doing are making great contributions.
I believe Bulldogs CEO Raelene Castle is good enough to run the NRL one day.
Rebecca Frizelle at the Gold Coast Titans is up there with the best chairs in the game.
The fact of the matter is Wests Tigers are struggling in all the key performance indicators.
It would be a blow to lose Campbelltown but the western suburbs of Sydney is already well covered.
Parramatta and Penrith are power forces that will be around forever.
The Canterbury Bulldogs and South Sydney both play out of Olympic Park.
That’s four strong clubs for the people of western Sydney.
Four clubs with much stronger and more appealing credentials than the Wests Tigers
 

magpie4ever

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/ph...sydney-nrl-clubs/story-fndujljl-1227565318095


IN the next few years the NRL is going to have to make some tough calls on expansion and the survival of nine clubs in the saturated Sydney market.

I love the traditional teams more than any others but the fact remains Sydney cannot host nine clubs in a national competition forever.
Not if they are to be competitive long term for sponsorship and crowds against the likes of Brisbane and North Queensland, the two clubs that fought out last weekend?s greatest grand final ever.
Rugby league has an average crowd of around 15,000 and it has not grown for more than a decade.
To get to 20,000, the game needs to expand into growth areas.
A second Brisbane team, Perth or a second New Zealand side are the obvious areas.
So where does that leave the Sydney clubs? Who is most vulnerable?
My team the Cronulla Sharks were once the obvious danger but they have got their act together under chairman Damian Keogh, with the property development income, a competitive football side and the fact they still own their home ground.
In my view the team facing the biggest challenges is without question the Wests Tigers.

NRL chief executive Dave Smith told me in an interview last week that the club was not his problem.
The NRL lent them money to prop up the Balmain side of the joint venture but had absolutely no say in the operations of the club.


This is a shame because even the NRL would do a better job of running the Wests Tigers than the current management.
Weekend reports that personality player Marty Taupau wants out is the latest of a series of blows that proves the administration is not up to the standards required.
The fact they are still supporting coach Jason Taylor when it is so obvious he is the main cause of their problems is bordering on a scandal.


This has nothing to do about the fact the person running the club is a woman. I?d be saying exactly the same if it was male chairman.
Other females in the game are doing are making great contributions.
I believe Bulldogs CEO Raelene Castle is good enough to run the NRL one day.
Rebecca Frizelle at the Gold Coast Titans is up there with the best chairs in the game.
The fact of the matter is Wests Tigers are struggling in all the key performance indicators.
It would be a blow to lose Campbelltown but the western suburbs of Sydney is already well covered.
Parramatta and Penrith are power forces that will be around forever.
The Canterbury Bulldogs and South Sydney both play out of Olympic Park.
That?s four strong clubs for the people of western Sydney.
Four clubs with much stronger and more appealing credentials than the Wests Tigers

Who wrote this shite? Parra & the Pennies stronger and more appealing, WTF.:lol:
 

CC_Roosters

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What if they demerged wests tigers and then merged wests and Balmain with other Sydney clubs. Parramatta tigers (yellow and black) and West Sydney panthers (black, white and teal) anyone??

Or leave parra as it is and move the tigers brand to Perth or Rocky

A bit of pain coming in the next 5 years me thinks
 

alien

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What if they demerged wests tigers and then merged wests and Balmain with other Sydney clubs. Parramatta tigers (yellow and black) and West Sydney panthers (black, white and teal) anyone??

Or leave parra as it is and move the tigers brand to Perth or Rocky

A bit of pain coming in the next 5 years me thinks

why would parra want to merge with balmange??? they would have nothing to offer parra
 

alien

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- there should be a full time team based in the outer south west of sydney (campbelltown or liverpool).
- balmain will probably be off the wests tigers board for good come march next year.
- Harry Triguboff is from the balmain side of the joint venture and wants to buy wests tigers, but wests aren't selling their half (good choice)

what SHOULD happen is wests, balmain, the nrl and harry come to the table. when the new tv deal starts (2018), wests and balmain should be split, harry takes over balmain (but are "central coast tigers" in the nrl, or somewhere outside of sydney, since the nrl wouldn't allow a 10th sydney team). western suburbs magpies back in the nrl based fulltime at campbelltown or liverpool
 
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Perth Red

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IN the next few years the NRL is going to have to make some tough calls on expansion and the survival of nine clubs in the saturated Sydney market.

I love the traditional teams more than any others but the fact remains Sydney cannot host nine clubs in a national competition forever.

Not if they are to be competitive long term for sponsorship and crowds against the likes of Brisbane and North Queensland, the two clubs that fought out last weekend’s greatest grand final ever.

Rugby league has an average crowd of around 15,000 and it has not grown for more than a decade.

To get to 20,000, the game needs to expand into growth areas.

A second Brisbane team, Perth or a second New Zealand side are the obvious areas.
So where does that leave the Sydney clubs? Who is most vulnerable?
My team the Cronulla Sharks were once the obvious danger but they have got their act together under chairman Damian Keogh, with the property development income, a competitive football side and the fact they still own their home ground.

In my view the team facing the biggest challenges is without question the Wests Tigers.
NRL chief executive Dave Smith told me in an interview last week that the club was not his problem.

The NRL lent them money to prop up the Balmain side of the joint venture but had absolutely no say in the operations of the club.
This is a shame because even the NRL would do a better job of running the Wests Tigers than the current management.

Weekend reports that personality player Marty Taupau wants out is the latest of a series of blows that proves the administration is not up to the standards required.

The fact they are still supporting coach Jason Taylor when it is so obvious he is the main cause of their problems is bordering on a scandal.

The fact of the matter is Wests Tigers are struggling in all the key performance indicators.

It would be a blow to lose Campbelltown but the western suburbs of Sydney is already well covered.

Parramatta and Penrith are power forces that will be around forever.

The Canterbury Bulldogs and South Sydney both play out of Olympic Park.

That’s four strong clubs for the people of western Sydney.

Four clubs with much stronger and more appealing credentials than the Wests Tigers.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...565318095?sv=a5597adbb3bbd78858381fa72e1261c1
 

alien

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Balmain Tigers on the brink after more dramas at leagues club site

Foundation club Balmain could fold in five months after Leichhardt Council's attempt to rezone the dilapidated leagues club site on Victoria Road was formally refused.

The Balmain Tigers have a history spanning 107 years, it is one half of the Wests Tigers joint venture. And it was hoped the Rozelle Village site would provide the entity the financial lifeline required to survive. However, the Department of Planning and Environment has knocked back the proposal, meaning Balmain could disappear from the league landscape.

Balmain remain a part of Wests Tigers, but its inability to contribute financially has effectively left it as a silent partner in the marriage, without the right to vote at board level. The NRL has loaned Balmain the outstanding monies, but the foundation club is required to contribute its next funding amount on March 31 of next year. If Balmain remain an unfinancial shareholder beyond that date, its shares are defaulted and placed up for sale.

Leichhardt Council and the site's owner, Rozelle Village, are again at loggerheads and the parties are likely to head to the courtroom.

In an open letter to Leichhardt ratepayers and Balmain Tigers members, Balmain chairman Dr Leslie Glenn slammed the council for not working in with the latest plans of developer Ian Wright.

"What folly and bad faith on the part of council which claims to want the Tigers to return home to Rozelle!" Dr Glenn wrote. "It is to be hoped that the council has not wasted further rate-payers' money on these stalling tactics. 10 years to the day prior to the DPE decision, this site was the centre of the community as sections of Victoria Road and surrounding streets were closed to traffic as the community celebrated the Wests Tigers maiden NRL premiership. Just a decade later, the site of the magnificent celebration of this community has been left to rot by obstructive members of Leichhardt Council. It appears that Leichhardt Council is happy for the rubbish dump on Victoria Road to remain.

"In the meantime, Balmain Tigers struggle to finance junior rugby league despite the support of Rozelle site owner Mr Ian Wright and a strong Junior League Board.

"Despite the moral support extended by the Western Suburbs Magpies, the Independent Board members of the Wests Tigers and the NRL, our 50 per cent ownership of the Wests Tigers joint venture club remains uncertain beyond the beginning of next year.

"The development of the Leagues Club site at Rozelle is crucial to the continuation of these activities."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...mas-at-leagues-club-site-20151008-gk45d2.html
 

magpie4ever

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you actually disagree with that??? :?

Of course I do, parra and the pennies are stronger than Wests in any form - joking.

Of course I would love to see the magpies return as a standalone entity, as I have said a zillion times.
 

siv

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Wests-Tigers continue to try and be a inner West Ashfield-Leichhardt based team

Problem with this is that they are next in the firing line
- Annandale
- Glebe
- Unviversity
- Newtown
- Wests (kicked out in 1984 and again in 1999) but found ways to survive
- now Balmain all but gone
 

alien

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Wests-Tigers continue to try and be an inner west (Ashfield-Leichhardt) based team

Problem with this is that they are next in the firing line
- Annandale
- Glebe
- Unviversity
- Newtown
- Wests (kicked out in 1984 and again in 1999) but found ways to survive
- now Balmain all but gone

starting from 2017, they will be playing all home games in the inner west (anz stadium)
 

siv

First Grade
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With Balmain in so much trouble financially

Wonder if Brisbane Easts want to try again with their bid for Brisbane 2 as the East Coast Tigers and play 3 games at Leichhardt and the rest in Brisbsne

Allowing Wests to take back control and return of the Magpies playing at Campbelltown and Homebush
 

Perth Red

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What's in it for Brisbane easts? Doesn't solve the NRL problem of wanting expansion but not more clubs.
 

paulmac

Juniors
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Just Move the Wests Tigers to the Western corridor already.They won't even have to change their name.Let the Bulldogs take over South-West Sydney by playing 4 low drawing teams at Campbelltown.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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What's with the fixation of Campbelltown? Games there are drawing terrible crowds.

Yeh, the junior development is obviously important, but it's a terrible location for games...

Its basically a massive suburb; there is no centralised CBD for the locals to congregate. And anyway, people living out there expect to travel for events, thats just the nature of living in the outer suburbs of a city.

By all means, play in Liverpool or Blacktown and sell to the SW locals. But CT games will never draw well; people just do travel out and the locals dont seem to want to go on mass.
 
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