Difference for NZ in winning union and league World Cups

[Dav0c]

RL fans are embarrassing sometimes.. I'm glad we don't get much attention.

 

[Springs]

How could they not at least be bloody close? Sitting on consecutive win streaks of 19-1 and 14-0 against 11 different legitimate full-time teams. The idea that a team that plays about 4 games a year mostly against 2 full-time legitimate teams is better than them is pretty hilarious.

As for world sport as a whole, I don't know who else achieves what they do on a consistent basis in such a global sport. Maybe the US basketball team would go close but even they don't face the consistent challenges that the All Blacks do.

If that's the only criteria, not the actual talent and performance of the team, then the top team of FIFA is much better because they play against many more 'legitimate full-time teams' than the All Blacks do.

 

[Rod]

Obviously talent and performance is a factor and I cited as much in mentioning the AB's winning record in my first sentence.

The difference between whoever is currently the top football team in the world and the AB's is that the top football team changes pretty often. The All Blacks have been the number 1 ranked team pretty much since the IRB started doing rankings in 2003 and would have been for a lot of time before that had rankings existed.

Granted the lack of a consistent top football team is due to the huge competiveness of international football and much larger participation levels among countries, making it next to impossible for an international football team to match the AB's, I do get that.

 

[royce10]

Who?

Well there's no point participating in a discussion about both rugby codes if you know nothing about the other.

 

[hutch]

The Kangaroos are the best rugby team on the planet and if the Wallabies had access to their players then Australia would win every Rugby World Cup, only rivalled by NZ and England if they had access to their league players.

Hmm, a big three! Sounds familiar! Union is lucky league exists to make their sport more competitive!

 

[royce10]

The Kangaroos are the best rugby team on the planet and if the Wallabies had access to their players then Australia would win every Rugby World Cup, only rivalled by NZ and England if they had access to their league players.

Can you list the Kangaroo players that'll pack down in the scrum and compete at the lineouts?

 

[parraparraparra]

All Blacks would get owned prison style by the Kangas.

 

[Kurt Angle]

Can you list the Kangaroo players that'll pack down in the scrum and compete at the lineouts?

Can you name an All Black who can beat Chris Paul off the dribble or dunk over Dwight Howard?

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

:lol:

Not only are the AB's the best rugby team in the world you could make a pretty convincing argument they're the best sports team on the planet period.

But this is planet Earth...

 

[royce10]

Can you name an All Black who can beat Chris Paul off the dribble or dunk over Dwight Howard?

Was there a point? :?

 

[Kurt Angle]

The point is RL players don't learn how to do lineouts, the same as All Blacks don't learn to dribble the ball.

The point is obvious.. except to the most dim-witted.

 

[Perth Red]

But this is planet Earth...

I think the Planet period sounds about the right place for Rugbu Union!

 

[royce10]

The point is RL players don't learn how to do lineouts, the same as All Blacks don't learn to dribble the ball.

The point is obvious.. except to the most dim-witted.

LOL! Then how are they supposed to win every RWC as Springs suggested they would if the Wallabies had access to Kangaroo players???

Since rugby has scrums and lineouts...

I don't mind being called dim-witted, but not by an illiterate.

 

[LJC]

Difference between RU and RL world cups:

One code has a lot more tackles and therefore runs(RL) and the other just doesn't cut it as a real rugby spectacle(RU).

 

[shiznit]

All I know is I want to keep hold of both of them...

 

[Kurt Angle]

LOL! Then how are they supposed to win every RWC as Springs suggested they would if the Wallabies had access to Kangaroo players???

because of the playing roster of the NRL, where the kangaroos are drawn from... played RU instead, the playing talent would booster the Wallabies no end.

They would THEN be able to compete in lineouts and scrums, because the are taught how to.

Since rugby has scrums and lineouts...

I don't mind being called dim-witted, but not by an illiterate.

Illiteracy isn't the core here, the core is logical fallacy. Stop trying to outwit people, you're woefully out of your league.

 

[shinobi]

why are league fans such a bitter lot?

 

[Kurt Angle]

When you you stop bashing your girlfriend?

 

[ltd2001]

And yet Brad Thorn, a near 40 year old broncos reject, waltzed onto their team. Lol! He sure as shit wouldn't have been given a Kiwi or Kangaroos jumper at that stage in his career.

The best rugby based sports team on the planet are the kangaroos. There are at least 6 players currently on the team better than any all black ever in history. Besides maybe SBW the nrl player, and Lomu, who was a legit nrl-star-calibre rugby player, but the only one.

You got no idea mate,i take it you don't no shit about the all blacks,you do know that sbw never owned a postion in the all black team don't you??He was a bench warmer the whole 2011 world cup lol,he wasn't even our second choice centre,kahui who played on the wing for the tournament would of filled the spot if Smith or Nonu got an injury,and sbw mite of got on the wing if lucky,not taken nothing away from sonny hes a class player but played no part for us in the world cup and that's a fact,being a ab and kiwis fan im glad hes playing for the kiwis,the all blacks can cope without him.
As for brad thorn do a bit of research,from memory he came and played a couple of seasons of union and went back to nrl for a season and walked back into queensland team didn't he before coming back to union,not that it matters hes was a beast regardless of what code he come from.
As a fan of both codes its a waste of time comparing the two,there completely different games,both with pros and cons.it just seems to be one eyed league fans bitching about union and how shit it is.funny that sonny played a code for 5 years that most on here think to be so inferior to league yet in his first year back hes up for international player of the year,helped roosters win a grand final and was a major reason the kiwis got past England in the semi,work that one out?
Anyway who cares about the rugby union world cup,this league world cups been a blast and the bests yet to come,id love for the rlwc get to the level where union is but bitching about another code anit gona get it there,especilly when you don't no shit about the code.its dumb people like you that hold the game back.Go the kiwis

 

[royce10]

because of the playing roster of the NRL, where the kangaroos are drawn from... played RU instead, the playing talent would booster the Wallabies no end.

They would THEN be able to compete in lineouts and scrums, because the are taught how to.

You do realize that a lot of players that go through the junior warriors system are more than likely drawn from the rugby union talent pool, right? A lot of them would have RU on their resumes. Yet they've enjoyed a heap of success (two premierships) against aussie teams full of RL nurtured players. Might I add, that the talent pool is only a tiny, little city called Auckland.

If you watched any RU, instead of being a RL supremacist, you would know that RU is very position specific and rarely is anyone ever played out of position, as is rife in RL. By the time a player (especially forwards) reaches NRL standard, you'll be hard pressed to find a position for him in union.

As good as SBW was in union, he lacked the kicking skills to be a world class outside centre or to take gamble on in a rwc final. But he'd be a walk-in start for any international league side.