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Do you want Andrew Voss back

Do you want Andrew Voss back

  • Yes

    Votes: 426 83.5%
  • No

    Votes: 84 16.5%

  • Total voters
    510

undertaker

Coach
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Watching a Broncos game last night without Hadley was a joy, he is so monotone and boring.

And Warren and Gould are SHITFUL in the extreme, I mean last night it was clear live that Hodges injured himself, yet they both completely missed it (it wasn't until Wally chimed in 5 mins later that they realised).

But I would still take that over Hadley's boring monotone any day, f**k Id take Terry Kennedy over Hadley.

Your joy is going to be short lived when Hadley returns to call Donkey night football in Rd 5 vs Gold Coast.

Ray Hadley + Queenslanders (especially Brisbane) is a match made in heaven. You guys deserve a bully like him
 

DMS

Juniors
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121
I don't think this whole thing has anything to do with Ray Hadley and Andrew Voss commentating abilities, I believe Andrew Voss has his fanbase as has Hadley, but I believe they are both at th the top of the game, I think the real underlying problem is the treatment of Andrew by channel 9 which has really put Hadley offside with a lot of viewers......I believe at the end of the day the blame shouldn't be put on Hadley......it should be put on the nine boss, he is the guy who left Vossy out in the cold and relegated him to call a competition below his standard...... Gyngell is the man escaping the criticism here but at the of the day it has worked out, viewers are given a wider range of announcers due to the fact we can still see Vossy on fox sports calling warrior home games thanks to sky sports nz, As fans we are all winning here, 4 great callers in Warren, Hadley, Vossy & Smith......plenty of room in the pool for them all to swim.
 
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undertaker

Coach
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I don't think this whole thing has anything to do with Ray Hadley and Andrew Voss commentating abilities, I believe Andrew Voss has his fanbase as has Hadley, but I believe they are both at th the top of the game, I think the real underlying problem is the treatment of Andrew by channel 9 which has really put Hadley offside with a lot of viewers......I believe at the end of the day the blame shouldn't be put on Hadley......it should be put on the nine boss, he is the guy who left Vossy out in the cold and relegated him to call a competition below his standard...... Gyngell is the man escaping the criticism here but at the of the day it has worked out, viewers are given a wider range of announcers due to the fact we can still see Vossy on fox sports calling warrior home games thanks to sky sports nz, As fans we are all winning here, 4 great callers in Warren, Hadley, Vossy & Smith......plenty of room in the pool for them all to swim.

Long post disclaimer:

100% disagree with the part in bold.

Hadley played a far bigger role in Voss's demise at Ch9 than you think, starting with the Rab's statue incident. Before that, Hadley was relatively out of favour at Ch9 for quite sometime and had constant run-ins with Ch9's sport director Steve Crawley (or whatever his name is). Then, Hadley - being the sycophant he is (hint: look up the recent link posted on here regarding his influence on NSW Police and NSW Government to see what I mean) - tried to suck up to Gyngell with the Rabs statue at Junee.

This was clearly orchestrated to try and get back in the good books of Ch9 management, paying homage to their 2nd most famous sporting commentator (behind Richie Benaud) since it was in 2011, Ch9 had one more year to go on their tv rights deal and there was a lot of talk about Rabs potentially retiring and hence Voss would be the heir-apparent given he has been calling RL at Ch9 since 1994 (after leaving Hadley's CCT in acrimonious circumstances before crossing over to Ch9). The one thing that always ate up Hadley was that up until that point, Voss had 'made it' on tv; Hadley didn't (after being given the arse from TFS in 1998). This was payback time in Hadley's mind to superscede Voss and when Voss came out with the harmless, accurate comment "the statue looked nothing like Rabs", Hadley pounced at the first opportunity by kicking up a big stink to try and paint Voss as the bad guy. To add to Voss's woes, Gyngell, who was good friends with Hadley by that stage, came out and supported Hadley by criticising Voss's comments. SURELY, Voss must've seen this as the 'writing on the wall' (regarding his future at Ch9) when he lost the support of the man that mattered the most - his boss. And, within 7 months after that incident, people tuned into Rd 2 FNF between Broncos/Cowboys and are astonished to find Hadley calling the game instead of Voss and to confirm beyond all doubt that Voss had been demoted, Tim Gilbert fronted the Sunday Roast a couple of days later instead of Voss, who was confined to calling the QLD Cup later that afternoon in stinking hot and humid weather in a tent rather than the air-conditioned commentary box that he had been accustomed to in the past.

We will never know the other details of what happened within that 7 month period, but I've already highlighted the main points. One of two ways an employer will try to get you to 'piss off' without directly telling you is: 1) to significantly cut your salary or 2) demote you to a lesser position. For Voss, it was definitely 2) and wouldn't be surprised if it was also 1). For Voss, 'so close, but yet so far'. To come oh so close to having the no.1 commentary position in the NRL (hence being able to call Origin and GFs) and then to have your dream squashed by the very person who had been your enemy for so many years and whom you shat upon from up high after supersceding him after crossing to Ch9 from 2UE, is a very bitter pill to swallow (akin to being cheated on by your gf, then you split up with her and try to apply for the dream job, only to find you got pipped at the post by her of all people because she brownosed her way or having connections with the management deciding the job application).
 
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Hooch

Juniors
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You reckon even stooges like Gyngell and Crawley will baulk at anointing Hadley as Rabs successor?

At some point the fact that he is shit at his job will have to come into it.
 

bobmar28

Bench
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You reckon even stooges like Gyngell and Crawley will baulk at anointing Hadley as Rabs successor?

At some point the fact that he is shit at his job will have to come into it.

Maybe that is why Rabs is still there even though he is past retirement age.
 

Evil_Mush

Juniors
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1,037
I for one am absolutely thrilled to have him commentating Warriors home games. Even though he's still got Darryl Halligan (the destroyer & creator of words), it's still infinitely better than what we've had for many years.

So selfishly, I hope he stays for a bit.
 

deemac77

Juniors
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133
I reckon Vossys a great commentator. Calls it down the middle with a little bit of not to serious humour chucked in.
So sick of Rabs and his dribble. He just shouts at the best possible opportunity. Absolutely painful. Hes gotta go. He was a great commentatot.Hes hard to listen to now. And dont get me started on Hadley.
Someone should sign up Greame Hughes again, he was brilliant...
 

undertaker

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Raaaay is a f**king grub

You should all have a read of this when Ray tells you that your mouths can be removed from scipione's lap

http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/03/06/hypocrisy-is-the-greatest-luxury/

Chris Murphy has been giving it to Raaaaay on twitter for ages. Raaaay has done nothing because Murphy will tear the f**king germ to shreds

regarding that wixxyleaks link, two further articles on this issue have been written since then:

http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/03/28/over-the-radio/
http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/04/02/all-the-right-friends/

And yes, love the Chris Murphy tweets on Ray. Like when Raymondo backed down in the typical cowardly manner after Andrew Voss got the reputable Stuart Littlemore to handle the defamation case Voss proceeded with against him, Ray is definitely shitscared over Murphy.
 
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PARRA_FAN

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I for one am absolutely thrilled to have him commentating Warriors home games. Even though he's still got Darryl Halligan (the destroyer & creator of words), it's still infinitely better than what we've had for many years.

So selfishly, I hope he stays for a bit.

Who's the second commentator in the U20s match? Only saw about 10 minutes of it, and he sounded better than Halligan.
 

undertaker

Coach
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I reckon Vossys a great commentator. Calls it down the middle with a little bit of not to serious humour chucked in.

Agreed

So sick of Rabs and his dribble. He just shouts at the best possible opportunity. Absolutely painful. Hes gotta go. He was a great commentatot.Hes hard to listen to now.

Funny how Rabs has been mentioned by several ppl (especially Brutus) over his botched pronunciation of the surnames of Polynesian NRL players. I found this link:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/Random-Olympic-stuff-which-is-becoming-quite-annoying/

Ray Warren is the greatest rugby league caller on the planet and is above all a polite and intelligent man. His pronunciation at the swimming, however, has been abysmal. We’ll let him off the tricky Chinese names, but Ray has made an absolute omelette of the French names. That fast French dude Agnel is “An-yel”, not “A-nel”. Camille Muffat should be pronounced “Moo-fa”, not “Moo-fay”. And what’s with the endless rugby league references? Seriously, Ray could work Darren Lockyer into a conversation about Shakespeare


Someone should sign up Greame Hughes again, he was brilliant...

Agreed, but at 60 I highly doubt he will get another shot (especially since he was also on bad terms with the NRL whilst Gallop was CEO), which is a shame because it is a lot of wasted talent whilst we have to put up with the likes of you know who. It's hard to believe he hasn't called any RL matches since 2000. Graeme Hughes even made that inaugural T20 international cricket match between NZ and Australia in 2005 listenable (I believe he also played Shield cricket for NSW IIRC).
 
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nrlnrl

First Grade
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I reckon Vossys a great commentator. Calls it down the middle with a little bit of not to serious humour chucked in.
So sick of Rabs and his dribble. He just shouts at the best possible opportunity. Absolutely painful. Hes gotta go. He was a great commentatot.Hes hard to listen to now. And dont get me started on Hadley.
Someone should sign up Greame Hughes again, he was brilliant...

I agree with you re Ray Warren, but as for Graeme Hughes, the key word is was. I used to enjoy his commentary for Channel 10, but that was over 20 years ago. I don't know if you listen to Talkin' Sport, but it's terrible.

After giving it a try, they seem to be grumpy old men who spend a lot of time complaining about things. It's as though they can't wait to finish the show as they sound bored when talking to callers or guests - eg when they continually say yep, yep, yep as a caller or guest is talking. To me that translates as "stop talking as I'm not really interested or don't have time to listen".

In comparison the shows from 6pm on Triple M ( The Rush Hour ) & 2UE ( Sports Today ) are far more professional & interesting. They both belong in the current era of sports media, but Talkin' Sport is like something from the 80's or 90's.

Back on topic, Andrew Voss is an excellent caller. As others have said, he has a terrific mix of knowledge & humour. When I listen to him, he always seems genuinely enthusiastic. He also seems to have a good feel for the pace of the game & knows when to throw in an odd piece of trivia.
 
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undertaker

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One of my favourite moments from The Roast, when the show was at its peak (Geyer, M Johns, Gus and Vossy was undoubtedly the best lineup they had):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qngjiq3pF5w

If you want to see how much of a shadow the current format has become of its former self, look no further than this clip. Tim Tam ain't got nothing on Vossy as a host. I really do hope that Sky Sports NZ do take up Vossy on his suggestion of developing more show with RL content in NZ and hopefully over time, they can eventually revive a show of this format over there. If it bears any similarity to Vossy's version of The Roast, I will definitely try to find a way to watch every episode.
 
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Tone83

Juniors
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I don't think this whole thing has anything to do with Ray Hadley and Andrew Voss commentating abilities, I believe Andrew Voss has his fanbase as has Hadley, but I believe they are both at th the top of the game, I think the real underlying problem is the treatment of Andrew by channel 9 which has really put Hadley offside with a lot of viewers......I believe at the end of the day the blame shouldn't be put on Hadley......it should be put on the nine boss, he is the guy who left Vossy out in the cold and relegated him to call a competition below his standard...... Gyngell is the man escaping the criticism here but at the of the day it has worked out, viewers are given a wider range of announcers due to the fact we can still see Vossy on fox sports calling warrior home games thanks to sky sports nz, As fans we are all winning here, 4 great callers in Warren, Hadley, Vossy & Smith......plenty of room in the pool for them all to swim.
Are you ray himself? no one could possibly have this pov. Vossy should be calling on friday night and sunday arv, and we should never ever, ever, have to listen to hadley, not on 9 or fox sports or on the radio. He should simply drop dead.
 
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I don't think this whole thing has anything to do with Ray Hadley and Andrew Voss commentating abilities, I believe Andrew Voss has his fanbase as has Hadley, but I believe they are both at th the top of the game, I think the real underlying problem is the treatment of Andrew by channel 9 which has really put Hadley offside with a lot of viewers......I believe at the end of the day the blame shouldn't be put on Hadley......it should be put on the nine boss, he is the guy who left Vossy out in the cold and relegated him to call a competition below his standard...... Gyngell is the man escaping the criticism here but at the of the day it has worked out, viewers are given a wider range of announcers due to the fact we can still see Vossy on fox sports calling warrior home games thanks to sky sports nz, As fans we are all winning here, 4 great callers in Warren, Hadley, Vossy & Smith......plenty of room in the pool for them all to swim.
So much derp in one post.

 

Dogs Of War

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One of my favourite moments from The Roast, when the show was at its peak (Geyer, M Johns, Gus and Vossy was undoubtedly the best lineup they had):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qngjiq3pF5w

If you want to see how much of a shadow the current format has become of its former self, look no further than this clip. Tim Tam ain't got nothing on Vossy as a host. I really do hope that Sky Sports NZ do take up Vossy on his suggestion of developing more show with RL content in NZ and hopefully over time, they can eventually revive a show of this format over there. If it bears any similarity to Vossy's version of The Roast, I will definitely try to find a way to watch every episode.

After watching that clip. I want Vossy back now!
 
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