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"Double try" rule to be used in All-Stars game

Jono1987

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It's hard to pass judgment on the 8 point try scenario until it is fully explained. However at least intially I think it could be an interesting concept and provide more tactical play to the game. The only problem I see is that with not allowing kicks I can't see it being used often if at all. I'm fine with the other concepts as well, should be a really entertaining game.
 

Firey_Dragon

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The 8 point try rule has got it all wrong IMO. It should be that you have the option for an 8 point try if you score the first try through the hands, for the 2nd try you can score through any means.

It encourages teams to run the ball in general play, and it also encourages teams to go for the extra 4 points. The 2 point conversion adds alot of thrills to an NFL game, if we can have something similar that works, I'd be all for it.
 

Jono078

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As a fan of the NFL, I like this idea.

You get to take the more automatic 2 points of a conversion or take the big risk and go for 4 points.

Will the team converting start on the 10m line and get 1 play to score a try?
 

Angry_eel

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If this rule is ever implemented it will have some major upsets and come backs. How many times have we seen a team score with 4 minutes to go and they're a try down and they can do nothing.
 

Jono078

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In theory a 16 point lead could be useless if the other team was able to score 2 quick tries and convert them both with this "double try".

Would be amazing though knowing your team is still in the game with 5 minutes to go even if theyre down by 16 lol.
 

Jankuloski

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If you want to create upsets than the more logical thing to do is to first let the team finish their set after the hooter sounds, not just end it on the next tackle.
 

Angry_eel

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If you want to create upsets than the more logical thing to do is to first let the team finish their set after the hooter sounds, not just end it on the next tackle.

logical? hardly. What if its zero tackle. the team has more than 2 minutes after the buzzer to score. Might as well not have a buzzer. lets keep the game going.
 

Gaba

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Refs talking to the Crowd you mean, our referrees have been miked up for TV viewers (and those with sports ears) since 1997.

For the second time, Coaches with Mics ISN'T the same as Coaches with Mics who can be heard on TV.
refs dont talk to the crowd over a mic explaining thier decisions, in the american boring football refs do they stop the play explaining why they give a decision, to the crowd.


And the coaches arent really going to give too much away, all we will hear is encouragement and the odd blast if the player isnt playing well.

And bringing these offensive and defensive replacement players on is starting to be a joke too ,

Too much american influence if they bring it into the nrl it will make the game too predictable

Nrl should be smarter then copying off the americans , only in america a game was suppose to go for 80 mins or so last 4 hours


the way nrl bringing american influence a nrl game could be heading that way , not good
 
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Canard

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refs dont talk to the crowd over a mic explaining thier decisions, in the american boring football refs do they stop the play explaining why they give a decision, to the crowd.

NFL Umpires announce there decisions to the crowd via microphone. (often explaining it in brief also, "i.e. after reviewing the play, the reciever stepped out and the ruling on the field stands etc.)
 

adamkungl

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8 point try has some merit....big gamble though. Would take some pissweak defence or absolute attacking brilliance to get through when the defence knows that a kick is definitely not on
 

God-King Dean

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The only time I can see people going for it is with only a few minutes remaining & they are down by 4 after the try.
 

milchcow

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The rules quoted say
"Any stoppage other than a try will see the match restart with a kick-off from halfway."

How does the match restart if a try IS scored? DO they get a chance to convert/triple try?

What happens if a try is scored by the defensive team after an intercept?
 

gottabegood

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The rules quoted say
"Any stoppage other than a try will see the match restart with a kick-off from halfway."

How does the match restart if a try IS scored? DO they get a chance to convert/triple try?

What happens if a try is scored by the defensive team after an intercept?

That's what I was thinking.

So potentially you could score 3, 4 or more tries according to that rule...hmm a 16 point avalanche.

And if there was an intercept try, they would then have the option to enforce the new rule.
 

milchcow

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Also, I'm assuming the clock is running while the double try is attempted.
If a team scores to hit the lead by say 1-4 points with 3 minutes to go, they could take the tap, then run backwards, trying to keep the ball alive and waste plenty of time before taking it dead in their own in-goal, then get the ball back from the kick off afterwards.

Obviously this wouldn't happen in an exhibition game like the all-stars, but would be a legitimate and risk free way of running down the clock in a close competitive game.
 

gottabegood

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Also, I'm assuming the clock is running while the double try is attempted.
If a team scores to hit the lead by say 1-4 points with 3 minutes to go, they could take the tap, then run backwards, trying to keep the ball alive and waste plenty of time before taking it dead in their own in-goal, then get the ball back from the kick off afterwards.

Obviously this wouldn't happen in an exhibition game like the all-stars, but would be a legitimate and risk free way of running down the clock in a close competitive game.

A coaching gig awaits you.
 

Gaba

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Also, I'm assuming the clock is running while the double try is attempted.
If a team scores to hit the lead by say 1-4 points with 3 minutes to go, they could take the tap, then run backwards, trying to keep the ball alive and waste plenty of time before taking it dead in their own in-goal, then get the ball back from the kick off afterwards.

Obviously this wouldn't happen in an exhibition game like the all-stars, but would be a legitimate and risk free way of running down the clock in a close competitive game.
To counter that they may bring in a rule like , like taking the shot for the penalty goal you have to be genuine going for the goal, if not the ref will give a penalty .

If the team who scored is taking the tap or what ever for the bonus try, from the 20 metres to the line, if they ran backwards more then 20 metres the ref will blow his whistle ,then the restart will be the kick off
 
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Jankuloski

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logical? hardly. What if its zero tackle. the team has more than 2 minutes after the buzzer to score. Might as well not have a buzzer. lets keep the game going.

Well no. It just extends the game for 2 minutes. 2 minutes extension on an 80 minute game is really not a lot, and it would give the attacking team a genuine opportunity of a turnaround. It would also prevent the dreadfull way the game usually ends now - desperate passing 'till someone cuts the pass or smuthers the ball - just let them get to the end of their set!

As for the 3-4 tries in a row - it's called an EIGHT POINT try attempt- you can do it only once.

And instead of the judge measuring how many meters they run in which direction - just have a turnover at the end of that attack - if you choose to take the attempt at an 8 pt try you are already desperate and you don't care about the future attacks - if you did - you'd kick the conversion and get the ball back.
 
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bobmar28

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If you want to create upsets than the more logical thing to do is to first let the team finish their set after the hooter sounds, not just end it on the next tackle.
Bad idea. The siren goes after 80 minutes and the game is over.
 

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