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muzby

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Red Heads (Rangas) are another persecuted minority.
Yep this is true..

And whilst it’s not at the same level bigotry, nor has the historical issues as discrimination based on skin colour, it’s still picking on a group of society based on a factor out of their control..

Whilst some people see it as fun to make a joke about red heads, imagine having people joke about you every day..
 

Gareth67

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Don’t try and turn this into another blame muzby thread..

We’ve got someone stating we need to call our racist comments as we don’t want persecution of minority groups on here, yet you say there is a time and a place for everything.

I don’t think that makes me the ignorant one..

I assure you that was not my intent - “ another blame muzby thread “ .

My previous comments were an attempt at trying to prevent the subject becoming ugly and to get everyone to get back to the rugby league .

I do not need to be told anything about racism - being off aboriginal descent myself !
 

muzby

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I assure you that was not my intent - “ another blame muzby thread “ .

My previous comments were an attempt at trying to prevent the subject becoming ugly and to get everyone to get back to the rugby league .

I do not need to be told anything about racism - being off aboriginal descent myself !
Thanks mate, appreciate the level headed reply..

As you can see by the behaviour of another forum member on here today, some folk will take any opportunity to try and bully me off the site.

Glad we are on a similar wavelength & apologies if my comment to you was inflammatory, I was of the opinion that you wanted to just shuffle the racist comments under the rug..

Best way to deal with shit comments like the racist one made earlier is to report it, and call out the bad behaviour (just don’t quote the offensive text as that carries it on..) :thumbsup:
 

Gareth67

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Thanks mate, appreciate the level headed reply..

As you can see by the behaviour of another forum member on here today, some folk will take any opportunity to try and bully me off the site.

Glad we are on a similar wavelength & apologies if my comment to you was inflammatory, I was of the opinion that you wanted to just shuffle the racist comments under the rug..

Best way to deal with shit comments like the racist one made earlier is to report it, and call out the bad behaviour (just don’t quote the offensive text as that carries it on..) :thumbsup:

All is good , no offense was taken .
 

Dragonsamy

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You are a very small minded individual.

On top of racism being flat out wrong as it leads to all kinds of socital issues, do you really want this forum to be associated with being accepting of racist comments?

Which in turn can lead to the fansbase being shown as being tolerant of racists?

But that’s okay, you keep throwing out your insults..


Dickhead
 

Dragonsamy

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Yep this is true..

And whilst it’s not at the same level bigotry, nor has the historical issues as discrimination based on skin colour, it’s still picking on a group of society based on a factor out of their control..

Whilst some people see it as fun to make a joke about red heads, imagine having people joke about you every day..

Imagine there's no redheads it's easy if you try. No more musby wouldn't that be glorious. imagine all the things that could be said without that troll.
 
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muzby

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So let’s just be clear here Samy, you’re disagreeing that racism should not be tolerated?
 

denis preston

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That next coach you refer to will be here before the season starts.
The rumblings around footy club land (and maybe just wishful thinking) is that Mary wont be here that long. But he wont be sacked that is for sure and certain.
That doesn't make sense or is it just me ! He won't be here but not sacked ? He won't resign thats for sure so is the club going to give him a new job ?
 

merahputih

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At the root of most racialism and discrimination is a lethal mixture of ignorance, old fashioned tribalism, fear and insecurity. I first saw examples of it when I was a kid growing up in inner Sydney in the late 40's and 50's. My parents and our neighbors were forever whinging about the Italians and Greeks moving into our street and buying up our houses and 'not speaking English' (even though a lot of them spoke better English than them). I can't remember the issue of 'our culture' and 'way of life' being raised, but it probably came up in some form or other. Later came the South Vietnamese refugees escaping the mess in Vietnam after the US handed it over to the Communist North. Again the same rhetoric about our 'unique' culture and values etc., supposedly inherited from the 'Motherland' far away. I guess the original Australians thought the same thing when the British 'Boat People' started turning up without papers at Botany Bay and Sydney Cove- there goes the neighborhood! (and almost the entire original inhabitants of Tasmania in one of the world's worst cases of genocide).

These days I struggle to see what 'unique way of life' or 'culture' we had was lost because of the arrival of people from somewhere else, unless it was the inequality and discrimination that I clearly remember in the 50's -women denied employment for any reason you could think of, religious discrimination at work ( bad luck if you were a Catholic and the boss was a Mason). Six o'clock closing! I am sure many people of my vintage remember being sent by their mother to the pub, dodging the brawling drunks on the footpath, to collect their father at dinner time as he tried to stuff one more schooner in before last drinks, before coming home for a drunken argument over a dinner of over cooked mutton and soggy vegetables washed down with a couple of bottles of warm D.A.

I was lucky, my old man was a gentle man at heart and never laid a hand on my mother despite the demons that haunted him from his war service. Some of my mates were not so lucky. No use calling the cops, it was a 'Domestic Matter'- part of our 'unique values'. Restaurants? Forget it. Maybe a few decent ones in the flash suburbs or King's Cross. The rest served food that you would not give a dog these days.

Thankfully, the Italians, Greeks and Asians took this bit of 'unique' culture from us and opened up their own restaurants so that now Australian cuisine is world renowned for its fusion of different flavors from all over the world with local food and flavors (including Aboriginal).

And so, the dream of a little piece of Britain in the South Pacific has faded over the years. Bring on the Republic and finish the job!
 
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TruSaint

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At the root of most racialism and discrimination is a lethal mixture of ignorance, old fashioned tribalism, fear and insecurity. I first saw examples of it when I was a kid growing up in inner Sydney in the late 40's and 50's. My parents and our neighbors were forever whinging about the Italians and Greeks moving into our street and buying up our houses and 'not speaking English' (even though a lot of them spoke better English than them). I can't remember the issue of 'our culture' and 'way of life' being raised, but it probably came up in some form or other. Later came the South Vietnamese refugees escaping the mess in Vietnam after the US handed it over to the Communist North. Again the same rhetoric about our 'unique' culture and values etc., supposedly inherited from the 'Motherland' far away. I guess the original Australians thought the same thing when the British 'Boat People' started turning up without papers at Botany Bay and Sydney Cove- there goes the neighborhood! (and almost the entire original inhabitants of Tasmania in one of the world's worst cases of genocide).

These days I struggle to see what 'unique way of life' or 'culture' we had was lost because of the arrival of people from somewhere else, unless it was the inequality and discrimination that I clearly remember in the 50's -women denied employment for any reason you could think of, religious discrimination at work ( bad luck if you were a Catholic and the boss was a Mason). Six o'clock closing! I am sure many people of my vintage remember being sent by their mother to the pub, dodging the brawling drunks on the footpath, to collect their father at dinner time as he tried to stuff one more schooner in before last drinks, before coming home for a drunken argument over a dinner of over cooked mutton and soggy vegetables washed down with a couple of bottles of warm D.A.

I was lucky, my old man was a gentle man at heart and never laid a hand on my mother despite the demons that haunted him from his war service. Some of my mates were not so lucky. No use calling the cops, it was a 'Domestic Matter'- part of our 'unique values'. Restaurants? Forget it. Maybe a few decent ones in the flash suburbs or King's Cross. The rest served food that you would not give a dog these days.

Thankfully, the Italians, Greeks and Asians took this bit of 'unique' culture from us and opened up their own restaurants so that now Australian cuisine is world renowned for its fusion of different flavors from all over the world with local food and flavors (including Aboriginal).

And so, the dream of a little piece of Britain in the South Pacific has faded over the years. Bring on the Republic and finish the job!

Good read and well said mate.
 

BLM01

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That doesn't make sense or is it just me ! He won't be here but not sacked ? He won't resign thats for sure so is the club going to give him a new job ?
Lets review this early next season. How sure are you he wont resign..or step aside?
 

denis preston

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Lets review this early next season. How sure are you he wont resign..or step aside?
IMO he won't forgo a million dollars in his pocket and resign because we can be sure that he hasn't got another coaching role to go to ( no one would be that stupid ? ) so this is it for him. Dont know what other role he can be given without getting in the way. Although taking your line of thought and a suspicion that i have had how about this for a scenario : Club tells Mary to resign with a years pay or suffer the humiliation of getting sacked early or mid year because his new contract has clauses way in the clubs favor. If he refuses he is unofficially put aside and the side during the off season preparations is run by Young, the new assistant coach & Flanagan. Club waits for best time in the new season to terminate his contract for non performance clauses.This is all to save a years salary and the Board saves face.

WE CAN ONLY HOPE !!
 

denis preston

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At the root of most racialism and discrimination is a lethal mixture of ignorance, old fashioned tribalism, fear and insecurity. I first saw examples of it when I was a kid growing up in inner Sydney in the late 40's and 50's. My parents and our neighbors were forever whinging about the Italians and Greeks moving into our street and buying up our houses and 'not speaking English' (even though a lot of them spoke better English than them). I can't remember the issue of 'our culture' and 'way of life' being raised, but it probably came up in some form or other. Later came the South Vietnamese refugees escaping the mess in Vietnam after the US handed it over to the Communist North. Again the same rhetoric about our 'unique' culture and values etc., supposedly inherited from the 'Motherland' far away. I guess the original Australians thought the same thing when the British 'Boat People' started turning up without papers at Botany Bay and Sydney Cove- there goes the neighborhood! (and almost the entire original inhabitants of Tasmania in one of the world's worst cases of genocide).

These days I struggle to see what 'unique way of life' or 'culture' we had was lost because of the arrival of people from somewhere else, unless it was the inequality and discrimination that I clearly remember in the 50's -women denied employment for any reason you could think of, religious discrimination at work ( bad luck if you were a Catholic and the boss was a Mason). Six o'clock closing! I am sure many people of my vintage remember being sent by their mother to the pub, dodging the brawling drunks on the footpath, to collect their father at dinner time as he tried to stuff one more schooner in before last drinks, before coming home for a drunken argument over a dinner of over cooked mutton and soggy vegetables washed down with a couple of bottles of warm D.A.

I was lucky, my old man was a gentle man at heart and never laid a hand on my mother despite the demons that haunted him from his war service. Some of my mates were not so lucky. No use calling the cops, it was a 'Domestic Matter'- part of our 'unique values'. Restaurants? Forget it. Maybe a few decent ones in the flash suburbs or King's Cross. The rest served food that you would not give a dog these days.

Thankfully, the Italians, Greeks and Asians took this bit of 'unique' culture from us and opened up their own restaurants so that now Australian cuisine is world renowned for its fusion of different flavors from all over the world with local food and flavors (including Aboriginal).

And so, the dream of a little piece of Britain in the South Pacific has faded over the years. Bring on the Republic and finish the job!
Yes, old farts talk about the "good old days " but if you were a minority or a women it was a shit creek of a life to get ahead.
 

41yearsaint

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At the root of most racialism and discrimination is a lethal mixture of ignorance, old fashioned tribalism, fear and insecurity. I first saw examples of it when I was a kid growing up in inner Sydney in the late 40's and 50's. My parents and our neighbors were forever whinging about the Italians and Greeks moving into our street and buying up our houses and 'not speaking English' (even though a lot of them spoke better English than them). I can't remember the issue of 'our culture' and 'way of life' being raised, but it probably came up in some form or other. Later came the South Vietnamese refugees escaping the mess in Vietnam after the US handed it over to the Communist North. Again the same rhetoric about our 'unique' culture and values etc., supposedly inherited from the 'Motherland' far away. I guess the original Australians thought the same thing when the British 'Boat People' started turning up without papers at Botany Bay and Sydney Cove- there goes the neighborhood! (and almost the entire original inhabitants of Tasmania in one of the world's worst cases of genocide).

These days I struggle to see what 'unique way of life' or 'culture' we had was lost because of the arrival of people from somewhere else, unless it was the inequality and discrimination that I clearly remember in the 50's -women denied employment for any reason you could think of, religious discrimination at work ( bad luck if you were a Catholic and the boss was a Mason). Six o'clock closing! I am sure many people of my vintage remember being sent by their mother to the pub, dodging the brawling drunks on the footpath, to collect their father at dinner time as he tried to stuff one more schooner in before last drinks, before coming home for a drunken argument over a dinner of over cooked mutton and soggy vegetables washed down with a couple of bottles of warm D.A.

I was lucky, my old man was a gentle man at heart and never laid a hand on my mother despite the demons that haunted him from his war service. Some of my mates were not so lucky. No use calling the cops, it was a 'Domestic Matter'- part of our 'unique values'. Restaurants? Forget it. Maybe a few decent ones in the flash suburbs or King's Cross. The rest served food that you would not give a dog these days.

Thankfully, the Italians, Greeks and Asians took this bit of 'unique' culture from us and opened up their own restaurants so that now Australian cuisine is world renowned for its fusion of different flavors from all over the world with local food and flavors (including Aboriginal).

And so, the dream of a little piece of Britain in the South Pacific has faded over the years. Bring on the Republic and finish the job!
You missed hatred at the top.
 

BLM01

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IMO he won't forgo a million dollars in his pocket and resign because we can be sure that he hasn't got another coaching role to go to ( no one would be that stupid ? ) so this is it for him. Dont know what other role he can be given without getting in the way. Although taking your line of thought and a suspicion that i have had how about this for a scenario : Club tells Mary to resign with a years pay or suffer the humiliation of getting sacked early or mid year because his new contract has clauses way in the clubs favor. If he refuses he is unofficially put aside and the side during the off season preparations is run by Young, the new assistant coach & Flanagan. Club waits for best time in the new season to terminate his contract for non performance clauses.This is all to save a years salary and the Board saves face.

WE CAN ONLY HOPE !!
Dont discount Matt Head coaching 1st grade until Flanno can take over. :oops:
Ssshhh maybe I should not put the cart before the horse. ;)
 

41yearsaint

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I think you’ll find that hatred is essentially born of the other 4 factors..

You generally don’t have hatred just for the hell of it..
Exactly, so how can our govt demonise and kill people of a certain nation and then expect the public to welcome them. As long as we send people to war, there will always be racism and hatred and the do gooders that say open the gates haven't been touched.
Apologies in advance for any grammer or spelling errors.
 

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