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Dragons Demand Salary Cap Meeting

Willow

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The Dragons are happy with flexibility such as signing players on backended contracts and having them retire early but not for allowing two NYC players to play in a match that literally means nothing.
And perhaps the Roosters are also happy with their association with the salary cap auditor.

Look, this is nothing new. Saints have been asking for junior compensation before now and were denied.

Good luck to Wests, I hope it signals a changing of attitudes in the NRL regarding the second tier cap. But I suspect there's more to it.
 

Fat Krion

Juniors
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The numbers were not meant to be realistic. They were meant to be nice round numbers that added up to an even million so that school kids like neutralsupporter could understand the maths.

The point is that with a back ended deal, if you retire early, you must get paid so that the years you did play, you were paid the average yearly amount for your entire contract.

People think the salary cap is a year on year thing, but its not. Clubs are constantly doing things, like being under the cap one year, front loading contracts, so that they have more room to move in subsequent years, or ifn they're getting near the top and want to convert success to a premiership, they sign someone on a back ended deal.

Dogs in particular keep doing this. Up/down, up/down.

With regards to Gaz, it was ridiculous that saints had to do what they did. The NRL wouldn't register him because he wasn't signing on for his "market value". Which stinks, because the NRL stops players earning their market value all the time with an artificial salary cap (meaning players have to accept less than what a free market would pay them), but then don't allow the players to voluntarily accept less to play for their junior club.

Can't have it both ways

The dogs were definitely caught out in this regard being unable to top up Barba's contract. He is worth more lot more than the reported 350k he is currently on.
 

Loudstrat

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Lol they seriously gave that as a reason? :?

Surely the Eels should have been allowed to sign Folau if being shit is a good enough reason to cheat the cap?
Exactly. We are denied the calibre of player we need to get off the dungheap, but others get concession becaue they are heading toward our dungheap?

Go Doust on this issue.

Are Brisbane using the same "worse than we expected" line to throw big $ at Barba, Milford, DCE and f*ck knows who else???
 

no name

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f**k I wish that merkin Gaz was still playing, listening to him talk on TV is excruciating.
 

nrlnrl

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If the Tigers are allowed to do this it could hurt $ouff$ and the Cows in their finals run..

No, it's on a week by week basis & they will only be granted permission to use these players against teams NOT in contention for the top 8. So they won't be eligible against the Rabbitohs & round 26 wil depend on whether the Cowboys can make the top 8 or not.
 

madunit

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Dragons need not fear losing. No player can carry Anasta & Marshall in their current form to victory.
 

BigRedV

Juniors
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Cry me a river Dragqueens. The sulkiest NRL supporters of the lot.

awesome contribution d!ckhead. If you actually read any of the posts you would realise that most people agree its a sh!t decision.

Why hasn't Parra been aloud any flexibility?
Why haven't any other clubs been allowed any flexibility?

Answer is simple, the darling media club of the NRL, is an absolute f**king basket case (at best) and they desperately need to do whatever they can to get more than 10 people at their games next year, so f**k the rules.

Its as much of a joke as all of the other mid season rule changes this sport goes through.
 

Delboy

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Shoebox is trying to make some friends after his complete f#@* up on Israel Falou, he should be removed from his position immediately

He authorised Lockyer to be on the books for $250k etc etc, and then made up a "realistic" number for Falou , which saw him go to Yawnion,. He makes sh*t up as he goes along, giving him authority on decisions is leading the NRL into even more dangerous waters.
 

tumbidragon

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Shoebox is trying to make some friends after his complete f#@* up on Israel Falou, he should be removed from his position immediately

He authorised Lockyer to be on the books for $250k etc etc, and then made up a "realistic" number for Falou , which saw him go to Yawnion,. He makes sh*t up as he goes along, giving him authority on decisions is leading the NRL into even more dangerous waters.
This! Shubert is a dead set f**kwitt, and why he still holds a key role within the NRL is a disgrace!
 

gronkathon

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I think the glaring difference in this regard is that it is second tier cap with players already on their books.

Israel was totally different kettle of fish.

It was the plan at the beginning of the year to use Brooks at some stage but the injury toll and in particular the forwards injury toll meant we ate up out second tier cap on those. Hell the previous time we breached was to play Farlow against the Panther because we had nobody else available at the time.

Brooks should be allowed to play just as Moylan was allowed to play with the only difference being it is not to be against teams in a fight for the 8

But hopefully we have a sufficient scope for such common sense in any cap rethink
 

innsaneink

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I dont see the problem

Doust says theyd seek a meeting regardless of who we were playing getting the dispensation....this rule is evolving on the run

No one is clear on it
 

Stagger Lee

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Be aware that with the Dragons ridiculous injury crisis this year we tried to sign Rangi Chase from Castleford but this Shubert demanded that the wage Rangi had already been paid this season by Castleford should go on our salary cap!

I dare say Doust is pissed of about this - and of course the Moltzen shafting
 

Lewish33

Juniors
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Can the Tigers field a team without having to break the cap rules? If so I dont get why they need to blood 2 new players, after all as they keep saying it's a nothing game.
 

Hutty1986

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No, he's not. Tonearm is still crying over what he called 'too much celebration' from Saints fans on October 3, 2010. Poor bastard. Please... cut him some slack.

That sums it up pretty well. Didnt take the bitter, whiny little b*tch long to have a hilarious whinge in this thread
 

happyG

Juniors
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tigers injury list:

Robbie Farah (hand), Rd 25
Eddy Pettybourne (ankle). rd 25
Blake Ayshford (eye), season
Aaron Woods (knee), season
Chris Lawrence (ankle), season
Joel Reddy (groin), season
Tim Moltzen (knee), season
Marika Koroibete (cheekbone), season
Matt Utai (jaw), season

9 out of the top 25.

everyone cried for the rules to change when moylan was held back and the nrl is showing some discretion and letting some young blokes have a run..... its the right decision and the nrl should be changing the rules to be more flexible for next season...

anyone crying about this is a nit picking whinger. we want to see young talented players in the top grade... there should be an exemption for any under 20's who are good enough to play nrl.. nsw cup/qld cup players obviously slightly different - but again, there needs to be more flexibility.
 

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