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Dragons Skipper In 2013

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Hate to go over old ground, but this was one of the main reasons I looked at Lewis and thought he was the type of player we needed to be throwing money at.
 

Mr Red

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Hate to go over old ground, but this was one of the main reasons I looked at Lewis and thought he was the type of player we needed to be throwing money at.

very good point.
throw in jeremy smith from the sharks into that basket... we really should have planned better and looked for captain material when recruiting at the end of 2011, that way the natural successor to Hornby would already have a year playing with the team under his belt.. there was an obvious gap for choices without Hornby there.

like i said Creagh will be captain, but only for lack of a real option... there are no natural leaders in the squad at the moment, Guys like merrin and Rein maybe in the future but that is years away..
 
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gypsy

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very good point.
throw in jeremy smith from the sharks into that basket... we really should have planned better and looked for captain material when recruiting at the end of 2011, that way the natural successor to Hornby would already have a year playing with the team under his belt.. there was an obvious gap for choices without Hornby there.

like i said Creagh will be captain, but only for lack of a real option... there are no natural leaders in the squad at the moment, Guys like merrin and Rein maybe in the future but that is years away..
In your opinion...for what its worth
 

gypsy

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Yeah in my opinion creagh will be captain. What's your opinion for what it's worth??

I have no opinion, as I dont know the guys and havent spent time in the group.
This is also why I dont bag Price, only those coached by him know what hes like.
Continue basing opinion on a 30 second interview/press conference every now and then though, thats heaps cool man :cool:
 
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RedVDave

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I'd vote Creagh, he is already Captain of leading the victory song anways so it seems like the most logical choice.
 

Mr Red

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I have no opinion, as I dont know the guys and havent spent time in the group.
This is also why I dont bag Price, only those coached by him know what hes like.
Continue basing opinion on a 30 second interview/press conference every now and then though, thats heaps cool man :cool:

so this is where i call you a hypocrite...
1. you dont have an opinion on the captaincy because you dont know the guys (players) personally and havent spent time with them.
2. you dont have an opinion on Price because you havent been coached by him.
3. Yet you have bagged numerous players in other threads... have you played with them? do you know them personally? have you trained with them? spoken to them in order to gauge their mental capacity?

seriously... hypocrite. if you are stating all your comments are based on your personal experience with the team and players then you are truly full of it..
 

Willow

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Weyman? are you serious?
imagine him at a press conference... jesus.....
Yes, captains are chosen because of their public speaking skills. Brad Fittler must have slept with the coach.

thats true, however i think you need both to be a captain.
There's be half a dozen requirements for a good team captain. Speaking to the press should be a long last on that list.

Weyman wouldn't be my choice for skipper btw, but not because of how he sounds in front of a camera. And besides, he is OK in interviews.
 

Mr Red

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Yes, captains are chosen because of their public speaking skills. Brad Fittler must have slept with the coach.


There's be half a dozen requirements for a good team captain. Speaking to the press should be a long last on that list.

Weyman wouldn't be my choice for skipper btw, but not because of how he sounds in front of a camera. And besides, he is OK in interviews.

yes - i agree speaking to the press wouldnt be the highest priority but i still think important when you choosing a captain - you would like to have someone who represents the players and the club in general very professionally.
and the second quote you referred to was my thoughts on needing eloquence in general as a captain, not just for speaking to the press... for all the other captains requirements as well...
 

Lethal25

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Captains are not always picked because they've displayed the best leadership qualities, some players are already leaders in the team and will perform that way regardless. Sometimes a coach will pick a player as captain as the player needs the captaincy to bring them up to that level of leadership, but time will tell. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with several captains which seems to be in vogue
 

64 Dragon

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As long as the new captain doesn't take tips from Pricey. He is like a stunned mullet at press conferences.
 

gypsy

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so this is where i call you a hypocrite...
1. you dont have an opinion on the captaincy because you dont know the guys (players) personally and havent spent time with them.
2. you dont have an opinion on Price because you havent been coached by him.
3. Yet you have bagged numerous players in other threads... have you played with them? do you know them personally? have you trained with them? spoken to them in order to gauge their mental capacity?

seriously... hypocrite. if you are stating all your comments are based on your personal experience with the team and players then you are truly full of it..

Wrong.
So wrong in fact, that it proves your complete lack of idea.

I do criticise players openly and liberally. Why? Because their performance in being a player is there for all to see each game. If you're not performing in a game, or look out of your depth, you probably don't cut it.

The difference with coaches and even captains, is that most of the qualities that make them good/bad in their roles, isn't on display.
How can people bag Price, when there are half a dozen 'other' coaches? How do we know that Hickmans' loss wasn't as important as Bennett's? Answer - we don't. Just easy to blame the guy at the top.


Massive difference. Shouldn't be surprised you don't get it though, mini-choc.
 
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Mr Red

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Wrong.
So wrong in fact, that it proves your complete lack of idea.

I do criticise players openly and liberally. Why? Because their performance in being a player is there for all to see each game. If you're not performing in a game, or look out of your depth, you probably don't cut it. and thus given this example the performance of a player or team week in week out which as you state is there for all to see is also a reflection on the coaches performance... crap performance by the team each week with no improvement can be used to judge a coaches performance as well... once again you = hypocrite.

The difference with coaches and even captains, is that most of the qualities that make them good/bad in their roles, isn't on display.
How can people bag Price, when there are half a dozen 'other' coaches? How do we know that Hickmans' loss wasn't as important as Bennett's? Answer - we don't. Just easy to blame the guy at the top.
hence why he is called the head coach - because the buck stops with him. he is responsible for the performance of the other assistants that report him... its called the hierarchical chain of command...

you = fail.

but anyway..... have double standards or judge whatever way you want. I dont really care - just as long as you respect people are entitled to have their own opinions and not surprisingly they will probably be different to yours......

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possm

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I would like to see the Dragons pick a quick thinking player who can read the mood of the game well and make good on field decisions. this player would also need to have the respect of most players, the coach and fans. Good off and on field behavour, good public speaking skills and plenty of football experience.

I think Soward is the man.
 

jenninga

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I have no opinion, as I dont know the guys and havent spent time in the group.
This is also why I dont bag Price, only those coached by him know what hes like.
Continue basing opinion on a 30 second interview/press conference every now and then though, thats heaps cool man :cool:
My opinion of Price is based on how the team performs on the field each week.Baffling team selections,inconsistent performances tells me that Price is not experienced enought to be a 1st grade coach .We have been extremely poor in too many games and yes while it is the players you could blame ,but we are talking about premiership players who previously set a high standard.His script like press conferences suggests he does not have answers .
 

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