DRAGONS team vs panthers

[evil_p091280]

Bring back Hornby and Gaz...

Surely they are both still under some sort of contract.

Chuck in Big Dell at prop while we are at it.

 

[Black Forest Dragon]

He opted for him on the player market. You interpreted it your own way. I am not going to argue semantics with you willow.

Price was 'comfortable' with his options and since then he has managed to mismanage Jamie and persist with the impossible in Nathan Fien whilst trying to sign Rangi and desperate attempts for others if rumors are correct. He needed depth when Kyle went down, turned his nose up at Drinkwater and couldn't handle Soward. Now he won't have depth again next year if injuries hit because he's failed to give anyone with a future a go in the halves.

The quote only confirms what I said that DW was considered part of the solution to our halves. Now he sits with Harry Siejka in the dug out scratching his head.

IMO an accurate assessment - very regrettably.

 

[TheRev]

1 does anyone have a link to the coach's press conference

You can just watch any of the 16 press conferences for the same responses, but here:
http://www.dragons.com.au/news-display/Press-Conference-Round-16/78285

Basically we just have to keep trying harder is the key tactical message for the squad.

 

[dragonv]

bravo steven, bravo

somebody pay out his contract and be gone with him.

 

[Lethal25]

Quite simply they had more desire when it came down to it. By no stretch did Penrith play well last night, their opening 20 minutes was diabolical. Net result we scored one try in that period and another loss loomed as soon as Penrith got some ball.

Unfortunately coach much like the players is probably trying hard and that's why he's so accepting of these losses. He can only measure the players by his own standards, clearly his standards are not at the level required to be a successful nrl coach.

Only problem for supporters is coach Price doesn't have to do anything no matter how much we bleat. This thing is rotting from the inside out, since mid 2011 it's 20 wins vs 33 losses. In 2013 they've only scored more than three tries twice out of 14 attempts.

Frustrating,boring and to be honest exhausting

 

[FlameThrower]

You can just watch any of the 16 press conferences for the same responses, but here:
http://www.dragons.com.au/news-display/Press-Conference-Round-16/78285

Basically we just have to keep trying harder is the key tactical message for the squad.

....missed the game, was at a party. I think Greagh responses are the most frank I've seen all season. There was a question about why he got the guys in a huddle after the game on the field, he replied that they needed to stick together, mistakes from old and new heads was another common theme.

 

[Twenty10]

Price must be sacked. The team selections have been diabolical. The players clearly believe the season is gone and they are playing accordingly. That's unacceptable. It's a coaches job to man manage and get the best out of his team. Obviously that's not happening

 

[FlameThrower]

Price must be sacked. The team selections have been diabolical. The players clearly believe the season is gone and they are playing accordingly. That's unacceptable. It's a coaches job to man manage and get the best out of his team. Obviously that's not happening

Perhaps the 1 year extension was a each way bet by the Club, if Price went well then they got a bargain, if he fails, then the $250K he is on would be easier to pay out, season end and have a new coach in mind? Mind u if he has lost support of the players who claim he is "a great bloke" then they are no longer listening anyway.. and will just get really ugly....

 

[Twenty10]

Surely the extension was designed to stabilize the club.... All the speculation was hurting the culture. It's also because the club couldn't find another coach.
But I seriously don't think the club can honour the 1 year contract.
We have the players to be much higher on the ladder. Something ain't right.
My post was deleted when I questioned Matt coopers situation but I have heard he is definitely unhappy with the club. Starting to make sense.

 

[Elias1983]

There was no other option other than price after bellamy, plain and simple.

If there was, Price would not be the coach for next year.

Doust made that clear by going so hard for bellamy in the off-season and Price still could claim the benefit of the doubt then because it was only his first year etc... He wanted Price gone.

Man, last night was the clincher for me with Price. I have been sitting on the fence with him but the team is just a frigging rabble, and as far as I'm concerned it comes back to the coach because the players have no confidence or belief. They have tried his "structure" for 18 months now and it's just not catching, it just isn't.

I'm not com[aring him to Bennett, but I will compare him to brown as they were rookie coaches at the time. At least in Brown's 2nd year there was an improvement, this year IMO is worse than last year both statistically (if you look at the ladder) and just in general. The players are not responding to the coach, there is no fear or intensity about them.

The team just doesn't like they are enjoying themselves, they look lifeless.

Was watching the game with my old man last night and the Dragons were attacking the panthers line in the 2nd half, he just threw his hands in there and said "what the f**k am I watching??? I can't watch this any more because it's so bloody painfull, this is not st george!!!"

 

[Drain the Dragon]

Man, last night was the clincher for me with Price. I have been sitting on the fence with him but the team is just a frigging rabble, and as far as I'm concerned it comes back to the coach because the players have no confidence or belief. They have tried his "structure" for 18 months now and it's just not catching, it just isn't.

I don't think you've been sitting on the fence. I've felt much the same, in that, sure, 12 months wasn't long enough, but now 18 months in, we aren't seeing him react to the situation any differently. He hasn't changed things up at all.
I always believe in giving someone a chance to prove themselves, but I think it's clear now that this coach has lost the dressing room.

 

[Elias1983]

I don't think you've been sitting on the fence. I've felt much the same, in that, sure, 12 months wasn't long enough, but now 18 months in, we aren't seeing him react to the situation any differently. He hasn't changed things up at all.
I always believe in giving someone a chance to prove themselves, but I think it's clear now that this coach has lost the dressing room.

+1.

 

[The Cobra]

Was one of the things that stood out for me,nobody in the dressing room seemed the slightest bit interested in what Price was waffling on about! He MUST step down or be shown the exit door.NOW.

 

[Willow]

He opted for him on the player market. You interpreted it your own way. I am not going to argue semantics with you willow.

And yet you follow up by arguing semantics.

So Price was 'comfortable' with his options, including Drinkwater. I still can't see where he says Drinkwater was the solution. But OK, you feel Price said Drinkwater was the go but then Price didn't give him a go (well actually he did, but let's not get too involved with the facts).

So what is your point? Are you upset because you feel Price lied to you?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're actually saying that Price is shit... a revelation, without the semantics.

 

[Willow]

Was watching the game with my old man last night and the Dragons were attacking the panthers line in the 2nd half, he just threw his hands in there and said "what the f**k am I watching??? I can't watch this any more because it's so bloody painfull, this is not st george!!!"

IMO it was worse when they were defending. The amount of cheap yards the Panthers were making while the defence just stood there was more painful to watch. It cost us on the scoreboard more than once.

 

[nrlnrl]

IMO it was worse when they were defending. The amount of cheap yards the Panthers were making while the defence just stood there was more painful to watch. It cost us on the scoreboard more than once.

yeah the Panthers rolled down the field easily with Masoe a standout. Despite that, the Dragons did defend well inside their own 20. There was a period early in the 2nd half when they had only about 2 sets in 10 minutes. I know they're all worth 4 points, but the first 3 tries all came from kicks.

 

[Father Ted]

IMO it was worse when they were defending. The amount of cheap yards the Panthers were making while the defence just stood there was more painful to watch. It cost us on the scoreboard more than once.

As painful as it is , for guys like you and I and many others here It's a contract of "Dragons ,Cradle to the grave".

 

[BennyV]

Only got around to watching the game last night. Same old same old - we look useless once we get into attacking position, I'm not sure if thats because Price hasn't given the team options for attacking plays or if its because Fein and Stanley aren't enough of a threat to create attacking moves.

If that game doesn't show that we need more speed in the centres (particularly that right edge), I dont know what will. They scores several tries but just slotting a kick in behind our line and Green/Nightingale werent quick enough to turn and get onto it.

The ONLY good thing to come from that was Runciman, he look fairly comfortable for a young kid on debut, sure it was helped by having Creagh/Morris next to him but he is clearly a smart player and it was great to see him getting a run.

 

[Godz Illa]

I doubt even the quickest centres in the game would have prevented those tries. To turn and chase on such a slippery surface was always going to be difficult, the chasers won the race comfortably on all occasions. It was smart play by Penrith, playing to the conditions.

We failed in this department dismally. I have refrained from being overly ciritical of Price but this was an obvious coaching failure. On that surface some good angle cutback runners, and smart kicks are what you want in the red zone. And the thing is, this style actually suits our play because we're not a flamboyant attacking unit at all. Cam King tried to create some of those angles occasionally but was let down by the runners. Other than that there was zero. It was a tactical failure by the coach, no doubt.

 

[Mr Red]

Panthers were average but played to the conditions, we were pathetic.. but sadly played as i expected based on what i have seen the last month.
no doubt we have dropped even further into disorganised chaos since Soward was axed...
and i will bet money that Stanley will be gone from five eighth within 1 or 2 matches, which once again makes Price look like a supreme goose given it was only last week he was stating he was happy with how Stanley was developing, and it was the rest of the team that needed to apapt to play to Stanley's strengths.. clueless!!

at least at the start of the season when we were losing you could see the players were all having a real dig, but just lacked execution, however now its at the point where i can see some players simply arent putting their bodies on the line and are simply being out enthused by teams who have execution just as poor...
when you get to this situation its time for the coach to go...no matter what the players say to the media its quite obvious they arent prepared to play for the coach anymore..