Draw 2015

[Perth Red]

Maybe I'm naive but I don't think there's a market for it aside from freebies for employees of the respective sponsors.

I'm glad the NFL wasn't so blinkered when Ch4 requested to show the game in the UK for the first time and Wembley wanted to bring a game to London.

A few years ago people laughed at the thought of Italy in the Union 5 nations, Japan having a pro competition or Argentina being competitive in union

Then again we cant even get teams across Australia so your probably right, best left alone for those sports with vision.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

There's enough willing expats in my smaller city to draw a few thousand + friends. Add in Ghwangzhou, Shenzen, HK and Shanghai and you would draw a decent crowd, just from non Chinese alone. The cheap, high speed rail really is a thing of beauty.

I've been on the cheap, low speed overnight trains. Brutally painful...

 

[Dutchy]

A 5 hour return trip to Beijing on a fast train still only costs around $23 AUD.

 

[The Great Dane]

Maybe I'm naive but I don't think there's a market for it aside from freebies for employees of the respective sponsors.

We'll never know if we don't try.

Besides even if only Huawei employees went for free and a only even one quarter of those in attendance at the game took any interest in RL that'd be 15000 new fans of the sport in china.

Throw in Huaweis offer to help with a marketing campaign in Shenzhen and the surrounding cities, (hopefully) getting Jackie Chan on board to help promote the game through his connections to Canberra, price the tickets very reasonably and I'd be a monkeys uncle if we don't intrigue at least a few thousand locals to come have a look.

Even if all that fails and the game in a massive flop, in my opinion Huaweis offers to introduce the NRL and the Raiders to some people in power in China alone is worth going ahead with the game.

I don't know about you but I think that it is worth the investment, even if we lose millions in the first year and never take a game there again, just to get our pinky toe in the door of the Chinese or even just the Hong Kong market.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

We'll never know if we don't try.

Besides even if only Huawei employees went for free and a only even one quarter of those in attendance at the game took any interest in RL that'd be 15000 new fans of the sport in china.

Throw in Huaweis offer to help with a marketing campaign in Shenzhen and the surrounding cities, (hopefully) getting Jackie Chan on board to help promote the game through his connections to Canberra, price the tickets very reasonably and I'd be a monkeys uncle if we don't intrigue at least a few thousand locals to come have a look.

Even if all that fails and the game in a massive flop, in my opinion Huaweis offers to introduce the NRL and the Raiders to some people in power in China alone is worth going ahead with the game.

I don't know about you but I think that it is worth the investment, even if we lose millions in the first year and never take a game there again, just to get our pinky toe in the door of the Chinese or even just the Hong Kong market.

Easy to say when its not your money....

Yes, they NRL are not backing this, but that is because the teams involved want the ARLC to put up the initial capital. If it goes well, all parties benefit. But if it goes to shit, its the ARLC that takes the loss.

Im sure theyd back it if either of the sponsors acted as backers, but (as we saw with the outsourced Auckland 9s) the ARLC are more interested in a safe investment than taking the risk/reward themselves; which is honestly a good approach from the governing body of a national sport...

 

[The Great Dane]

Easy to say when its not your money....

Yes, they NRL are not backing this, but that is because the teams involved want the ARLC to put up the initial capital. If it goes well, all parties benefit. But if it goes to shit, its the ARLC that takes the loss.

Im sure theyd back it if either of the sponsors acted as backers, but (as we saw with the outsourced Auckland 9s) the ARLC are more interested in a safe investment than taking the risk/reward themselves; which is honestly a good approach from the governing body of a national sport...

I'm sorry but that's incorrect.

I can't find the exact article that I was looking for (I know it was in the Canberra Times and most likely by Tuxworth) which basically showed that apart from a minimal investment from both the Raiders and Manly (that they hoped the NRL would pay, but were willing to pay themselves) that it'd be funded almost entirely by sponsors (mainly Huawei and Kaspersky, but not them exclusively) with the rest being made up by the Shenzhen government.

I did however find this quote.

''We have a Huawei Australia board meeting in China in December, and we're going to invite the CEO of the NRL to come up there and visit Shenzhen, and hopefully finalise the date. We've had many companies keen to come on board with sponsorship and any cost for the NRL would be minimal, it would be self-funding

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/channel-nine-in-favour-of-canberra-raiders-china-match-20131021-2vxcv.html

Everybody wanted this game to go ahead and they all were willing to put some money up to pay for it, except the NRL.

 

[DC_fan]

I'm glad the NFL wasn't so blinkered when Ch4 requested to show the game in the UK for the first time and Wembley wanted to bring a game to London.

A few years ago people laughed at the thought of Italy in the Union 5 nations, Japan having a pro competition or Argentina being competitive in union

Then again we cant even get teams across Australia so your probably right, best left alone for those sports with vision.

We'll never know if we don't try.

Besides even if only Huawei employees went for free and a only even one quarter of those in attendance at the game took any interest in RL that'd be 15000 new fans of the sport in china.

Throw in Huaweis offer to help with a marketing campaign in Shenzhen and the surrounding cities, (hopefully) getting Jackie Chan on board to help promote the game through his connections to Canberra, price the tickets very reasonably and I'd be a monkeys uncle if we don't intrigue at least a few thousand locals to come have a look.

Even if all that fails and the game in a massive flop, in my opinion Huaweis offers to introduce the NRL and the Raiders to some people in power in China alone is worth going ahead with the game.

I don't know about you but I think that it is worth the investment, even if we lose millions in the first year and never take a game there again, just to get our pinky toe in the door of the Chinese or even just the Hong Kong market.

I have been a supporter of a move into China and other parts of Asia for over five years now so I would be saying lets do it, let's take the game to China. It's time to think about the future, the long term future of the game and for mine that future in includes China.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I'm sorry but that's incorrect.

I can't find the exact article that I was looking for (I know it was in the Canberra Times and most likely by Tuxworth) which basically showed that apart from a minimal investment from both the Raiders and Manly (that they hoped the NRL would pay, but were willing to pay themselves) that it'd be funded almost entirely by sponsors (mainly Huawei and Kaspersky, but not them exclusively) with the rest being made up by the Shenzhen government.

It's expected the matter will be resolved at the next ARLC board meeting, scheduled for this month. Because of the cost, the NRL would have to underwrite the project. ARLC chief executive Dave Smith said the idea, which had the backing of Manly sponsor Kaspersky and Raiders counterpart Huawei, warranted investigation.

"Raiders and Manly are working through the concept from a marketing and promotional perspective and they have just engaged me," Smith said. "Anything that takes the game to a wider audience is worth thinking about. Whether we do or don't, you'd have to consider very carefully the priorities ... there's not that many opportunities and you have to make the most of the ones we have."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/china-in-nrls-hands-as-manly-eye-history-20130711-2pqqu.html

I also remember an article (which i cant find), written by Mascord (i think), saying the ARLC were unwilling to put that much of their own money into it and therefore it could not go ahead.

 

[Rabbits20]

Email the club and ask them when they requested their byes if your so concerned

Stop being stupid. You know how the draw works. That's out of the clubs control. Clubs can request what they wish for but there will always be issues with byes in Origin.

Madge said it isn't ideal but nothing can be done.

 

[Rabbits20]

JMoz and Jennings will be NSW centres. Walker was truly woeful for Aus

I know J. Morris and Jennings will obviously be 1st choice centres. Rightly so.

But if one of them is injured Walker will play origin if in good form. He will learn a lot from the 4 nations.

There's a reasonable chance Morris or Jennings could be injured. Morris especially is injury prone.

I expect Dylan to at least play in 1 origin game.

Dylan won't play all 3.

 

[Rabbits20]

Leliua impressed far More in the 4N then walker did, Dugan and hopoate will be seen as center options plus ferguson coming back. After walkers poor 4N he would be long odds to play origin next year.

If you're talking about Samoan centre and Knights player Joey Leliua he had quite an ordinary tournament too. His defence was poor and he kept knocking on as well.

Dugan will play fullback in origin. Ferguson does not at all deserve to play origin.

Hopoate won't necessarily play origin it depends on his form. Same as Walker.

Anyway if Jennings and J. Morris are fit other options won't need discussing.

 

[Rabbits20]

Lol Walker only played 4N because of injuries to the 100 players who were in front of him for a position.

Souths will lose Inglis and possibly McQueen for Origin - that's it

Lol@ you.

Walker is only 20. In a couple of years he will be a superstar.

His average 4 nations tournament will teach him a lot. It's actually a positive for Dylan to remind him he still has lots of room for improvement.

 

[Rabbits20]

No the Bye's should always go to the teams most effected during this time, having 3 players there is nothing. Broncos will supply Hodges, Boyd ( if fit ), Parker, Thaiday, Gillett and could also have McGuire and Hunt or Milford playing as well. Cowboys will supply more than their fair share, as will the Dogs. These are the teams that should be having both their bye's during origin.

Fair enough give those teams 2 bye's. I agree on that fully I feel the same. I have done for many years as it strongly disadvantages those teams.

I didn't say Souths should get bye's.

I said on one of my posts Souths should get 1 bye. Surely you agree with that.

This year Souths had no byes as well. Had to play 3 games without Inglis, Te'o and McQueen.

 

[Rabbits20]

And Walker did himself no favours in his games, he's a long way off rep footy.

Surely Mcqueen wont get picked again either, not that it'd matter much if he did though, he's only a bit part bench player at Souths these days anyway.

Souths are laughing, in the Origin period they get Parra without Watmough, a Titans side with Bird, Myles & possibly Taylor backing up & a Tigers side without Woods & Farah.

As far as Origin periods go they've got it pretty good. I can't imagine there's too many better.

He's not far off more rep footy. You're jealous he will learn a lot from his mistakes in that tournament. In 2 years he will be a superstar. Ask experts and previous players of the game who actually know the game.

McQueen will play for QLD in 2015. McQueen had a few ankle problems this year and didn't play well consistently as it was a stop start year for him. When he started to play better he got injured with his ankle again. With Te'o leaving a fully fit McQueen will start for Souths in 2nd row with Sutton. Uneducated from you again.

Souths don't play Gold Coast before origin game. Souths play Penrith round 17 at Penrith which will be very very tough. Uneducated from you yet again.

If Souths players are in form and Blues have injuries Souths could be missing a couple more players to Origin.

 

[Rabbits20]

RWB yet another Roosters fan with uneducated facts.

If I didn't know different things on Roosters players/draw/origin I wouldn't post.

Even though I strongly dislike Roosters I wouldn't post pointless info.

 

[Rabbits20]

Lambretta Sunday games are great.

Should boost Roosters crowd numbers.

Oh wait! There's no other supporters to attend:lol::lol:

Don't always need to have a beer before and after the game to have a good time.

The footy should be good enough and enjoyable not always the drinking part of it.

 

[POPEYE]

Bulldogs can't be that popular after all, seems having them travel the second least in '15 means no-one gives a shit outside SWS . . . when they do win the cup it should be made out of a kebab

See if fresh bait works