Dufty v Sloan

[Gardenia]

 

[Kolum Kid]

Take a look at this and there is your answer

Just wondering, Got any highlights of him defending one on one or on the line, or catching the high ball under pressure?

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Just wondering, Got any highlights of him defending one on one or on the line, or catching the high ball under pressure?

Just watch Sloan highlights same same

 

[Kolum Kid]

Just watch Sloan highlights same same

Don't need to. I'm watching a young player who is slowly improving week to week.
Don't get me wrong, Dufty scored some great tries but if anyone was shy of contact it was him.
At least Sloan seems to be taking advice from coaching staff on board.

 

[Nutz]

Take a look at this and there is your answer

What a waste.

 

[Slippery Morris]

People that like Dufty please watch how he handled the bombs when he was at Saints? He was so uch worse than Sloan. Dufty had 80+ games to fix that. I feel Sloan is more safer under the bombs these days and he has just hit 50 games.

 

[Captn]

Sloan at least competes for a bomb. Unlike Dufty. He might have a few arm grabs but he does at least try to tackle instead of look for the intercept. His on line defence is suspect and defiantly needs more work, dufty was a bit more nuggety and closer to the ground with a few more seasons of weights and wrestling under his belt. Unfortunately Sloan’s attack has faltered in open play, but I think overal he is a much better proposition now then last year and at this stage of his career is better then duff man. If Sloan was in another system and available for 25, punters on here would be frothing.

 

[Kolum Kid]

People either recognise the progress he is making or not, however the coach obviously sees something special. I would much prefer him to the wiz kid at the broncs who is also special but has plenty of work, but also has plenty of mistakes in his game.
At least K F is playng smart in that he is choosing to pass to him in the sweep plays which got 2 tries on the weekend but also using his as the decoy and cutting him out as he attracts the defenders for other tries.

 

[TheRev]

its not really that.. I think even his biggest critics see Tyrell's progression.. and if he was 19yrs old and 10 games in.. 1000% understandable... but hes 3yrs in, with over 50 games, he might only be 22yrs old, but thats quite a career already. And ofcourse its not his fault he gets selected..... he probably should have had those 3yrs in NSW Cup first.

But the reason I also try to acknowledge the good stuff.. and the coach does also... is there is literally nobody else in our system that can play fullback better at 1st grade standard.. so either Sloan succeeds or we all fail. It will be very different if we get Talagi into our system however.. then there is an alternative path... and we havent had a tackle-breaker from fullback for a very long time.

 

[rasaint]

This is one of those questions which polarise fans.

All I will say is that Matt Dufty scored trys that very few players ( if any) could score. This includes his 2019 Anzac Day pearler where he broke through the roosters forward pack with power 60 metres out, came to Teddy and hurdled his attempted tackle, accelerated on a swerving run in and out between Cooper Cronk and Latrell Mitchell with high end to score at the Randwick end. Yes I do believe that was the best individual try in the past decade.

Of course, Sloan may end up better overall. Who knows?

 

[Bin Chicken]

its not really that.. I think even his biggest critics see Tyrell's progression.. and if he was 19yrs old and 10 games in.. 1000% understandable... but hes 3yrs in, with over 50 games, he might only be 22yrs old, but thats quite a career already. And ofcourse its not his fault he gets selected..... he probably should have had those 3yrs in NSW Cup first.

But the reason I also try to acknowledge the good stuff.. and the coach does also... is there is literally nobody else in our system that can play fullback better at 1st grade standard.. so either Sloan succeeds or we all fail. It will be very different if we get Talagi into our system however.. then there is an alternative path... and we havent had a tackle-breaker from fullback for a very long time.

Really well said .

 

[Old Timer]

Really well said .

This coach and the one before promised z Lomax a proper shat at FB so yet again we never bothered to find out.

 

[Parko1310]

This coach and the one before promised z Lomax a proper shat at FB so yet again we never bothered to find out.

Lomax was absolutely never, ever, promised fullback from Flanagan. No idea where that's come from

 

[TheRev]

Lomax had the pre-season to compete for that fullback position but overall it was just a better team to have him on the wing... Lomax doesnt really have speed or a decent passing game.. but he has big physicality, tenacity and aerial skill... he could be a good fill-in fullback, but not someone you would build around long-term.

Its rly hard.. if you could somehow merge Sloan & Lomaxes strengths into 1 player.. youd have a superstar fullback.. it just doesnt work like that.. and its similar with most player selections.. player x brings something, but they always give up something else..

 

[Old Timer]

Lomax was absolutely never, ever, promised fullback from Flanagan. No idea where that's come from

I said he was promised a shot at it not the spot

NRL 2023: Zac Lomax to be given St George Illawarra fullback shot

amp.smh.com.au

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

If its not a Pinky Promise it doesn't count...

 

[Adolf_Spritzer]

This is one of those questions which polarise fans.

All I will say is that Matt Dufty scored trys that very few players ( if any) could score. This includes his 2019 Anzac Day pearler where he broke through the roosters forward pack with power 60 metres out, came to Teddy and hurdled his attempted tackle, accelerated on a swerving run in and out between Cooper Cronk and Latrell Mitchell with high end to score at the Randwick end. Yes I do believe that was the best individual try in the past decade.

Of course, Sloan may end up better overall. Who knows?

A bit off topic but best individual try goes to Inglis vs the donkeys

 

[BLM01]

This coach and the one before promised z Lomax a proper shat at FB so yet again we never bothered to find out.

When did this coach promise Zac a proper shot at fullback, or are you interpreting newspaper articles again. What Flanno did say was that he was training there as every off season teams / players train in different positions in case of times of need / injury to see how they go. So to me that is a proper shot. If you are not up to ion in summer no good throwing in there in winter.
He also said with hindsight before a ball was kicked Sloan would have first crack at fullback after reviewing the off season and it was reviewed and seen winger was best for our team. What is wrong with that and it has been best for our team.
Let it go..he does not have the pace to cover fullback. I got it wrong too, I said he was an out and out centre.

 

[Old Timer]

When did this coach promise Zac a proper shot at fullback, or are you interpreting newspaper articles again. What Flanno did say was that he was training there as every off season teams / players train in different positions in case of times of need / injury to see how they go. So to me that is a proper shot. If you are not up to ion in summer no good throwing in there in winter.
He also said with hindsight before a ball was kicked Sloan would have first crack at fullback after reviewing the off season and it was reviewed and seen winger was best for our team. What is wrong with that and it has been best for our team.
Let it go..he does not have the pace to cover fullback. I got it wrong too, I said he was an out and out centre.

It might be a proper shot to you but I’m sure many would disagree and see it no more than lip service

I am merely making the point that for 52 games we have seen Sloan who is getting more than a fair go and we have seen Zac picked there for how many maybe 1 game under Hook.

Am I relying on the media yes I am but I also remember seeing S F interviewed and saying Zac would get his chance.

You say he can’t be a F B where I simply suggest he had many of the attributes of a F B not sure if he has them all but we should have bothered to find out because sure as eggs he has adapted to wing when that seemed impossible.

His high raking torpedo bomb the other week also suggests he has other things in his locker that could ultimately be used to our advantage but here we are with 7 games to go and we are just finding out that we have a Matt Burton boot in our midst.

 

[Hound of Dracula]

It might be a proper shot to you but I’m sure many would disagree and see it no more than lip service

I am merely making the point that for 52 games we have seen Sloan who is getting more than a fair go and we have seen Zac picked there for how many maybe 1 game under Hook.

Am I relying on the media yes I am but I also remember seeing S F interviewed and saying Zac would get his chance.

You say he can’t be a F B where I simply suggest he had many of the attributes of a F B not sure if he has them all but we should have bothered to find out because sure as eggs he has adapted to wing when that seemed impossible.

His high raking torpedo bomb the other week also suggests he has other things in his locker that could ultimately be used to our advantage but here we are with 7 games to go and we are just finding out that we have a Matt Burton boot in our midst.

If only he was fast enough to utilise his spectacular high aerial catching skills, off his own torpedo bomb!
Awesome!