Ed Cowan, 2nd worst Aussie ever.

[herbert henry1908]

I'm confident he'd be averaging more over his past five tests than Hughes or Watson.

He is just the scapegoat for an all around shitty batting lineup.

Why are you so confident of that ?

Fact is , cowan has never had much of a FC record either.

 

[madunit]

I'm confident he'd be averaging more over his past five tests than Hughes or Watson.

He is just the scapegoat for an all around shitty batting lineup.

Well it's hardly a strong argument is it. It's like trying to determine whats harder, diahorreah or vomit.

Just for fun, I checked and you were right:

Last 5 tests:
Cowan - 10 Inns, 0 NO, 279 runs @ 27.90 - 1 x 50's, 0 x 100's, HS 86, 1 duck
Watson - 9 Inns, 0 NO, 241 runs @ 26.78 - 1 x 50's, 0 x 100's, HS 83, 0 ducks
Hughes - 10 Inns, 1 NO, 228 runs @ 25.33 - 2 x 50's, 0 x 100's, HS 81*, 3 ducks

and to think, thats half our top 6 batsmen there.

Sack all 3 I say.

 

[herbert henry1908]

When the rest of the side is crumbling around you, averaging 30 is decent. Especially considering pea hearts like Watson and Hughes averaged in the f**king teens. Yet somehow Cowan is more deserving of the axe then them, after one bad game? They had an entire series of shit!

You can't seriously take an Indian tour and apply it to the ashes.

Two totally different environments.


Hughes for all his flaws has a better test record than Cowan , and he's been dropped several times.

Cowan just isn't a test standard player.

 

[BDR]

Hughes and Watson have at least shown they have quality in them at times.

Cowan has always been awful.

 

[unbreaK]

I'd happily sack Watson and Cowan, purely because they're both 30+ and don't have much time left to improve before they start to decline due to age more than anything, Hughes is still young and has a high skill ceiling.

If I was planing for the future they would be the first two I would look to cut.

1) Warner
2) Rogers (Old as well, but he's temporary until we find another young opener)
3) Khawaja (Give him another couple of test matches, his technique will prevail eventually)
4) Clarke
5) Hughes
6) S.Smith
7) Haddin (Temporary, until Wade or someone else truly steps up)
8) Agar (Permanent, he's got bowling, batting and fielding potential, and he's extremely young)
9) Siddle
10) Pattinson
11) Bird

Sorry to Starc, he needs to work on his consistency a bit more before he's a regular in test matches.

 

[some11]

When the rest of the side is crumbling around you, averaging 30 is decent.

0 & 14.

He's part of the crumble.

 

[eagles4eva]

Cowan has to go and Clarke to five

 

[Timbo]

To be honest, I'd probably retain him for one more test however I'm torn. Yesterday I was full steam ahead to get Khawaja in there but the fact is the above stats are correct. He has been a better batsman over the last twelve months than Hughes or Watson, and was probably our most consistant after Clarke in India.

He's averaged 37 in all first class matches (Australia + Nottinhamshire) since arriving in England from India, where he managed to average 35 in first class matches.

It's not what we want from an Australian top order player but it's better than some of the other blokes.

 

[Moffo]

Warner
Rogers
Khawaja
Hughes
Clarke
Haddin
Agar
Pattinson
Siddle
Harris
Bird

Sorry but don't see enough value in our all rounders at the moment (smith a bit unlucky)

 

[Timbo]

Smith is not an all-rounder, he's a batsman and he's a batsman coming off of a 50.

Everyone who is picking Agar to bat higher than 8 needs to calm the f**k down. His second innings proved he's not ready for higher honours yet.

 

[Moffo]

What? He survived out there for longer than a lot of the other twats?

 

[Moffo]

Smith is not an all-rounder, he's a batsman and he's a batsman coming off of a 50.

Everyone who is picking Agar to bat higher than 8 needs to calm the f**k down. His second innings proved he's not ready for higher honours yet.

He is an all rounder...tell me how he isn't one?

 

[Twizzle]

Warner
Rogers
Khawaja
Hughes
Clarke
Haddin
Agar
Pattinson
Siddle
Harris
Bird

Sorry but don't see enough value in our all rounders at the moment (smith a bit unlucky)

Smith is not an all rounder

HE didn't bowl in the first test at all

What? He survived out there for longer than a lot of the other twats?

Survived being the operative word, he is not an all rounder or a batsman as yet.

All rounders take wickets and he is struggling in that area on a turner, should have done better.

This kid is nothing more than a work in progress atm.

 

[Jason Maher]

He's already better than Lyon.

 

[Moffo]

Smith is not an all rounder

HE didn't bowl in the first test at all



Survived being the operative word, he is not an all rounder or a batsman as yet.

All rounders take wickets and he is struggling in that area on a turner, should have done better.

This kid is nothing more than a work in progress atm.

Oh right...so I instantly stop being an all rounder based if I don't bowl for one match. Makes sense

 

[oldmancraigy]

So being one of our top batsman on our most recent Test tour 'isn't taking his chance'?

I guess Hughes and Watson absolutely obliterated their chances then because if numbers dont lie, Cowan was well above them.

Cowan should get another chance, and will get one.

He's the worst top 3 batsman ever to have played for Australia at this stage of his career.

Plain and simple he doesn't score runs.

There's no reason he should get another chance - and he is far and away the worst batsman on tour.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I'm confident he'd be averaging more over his past five tests than Hughes or Watson.

He is just the scapegoat for an all around shitty batting lineup.

Yes, I suppose he's also the scapegoat of Australian cricket since 1877.

There has never ever been a worse batsman in the top 3 representing our country.

That's not an opinion piece, that's judging them all on their deeds.

 

[Gidley Up]

Smith is not an all rounder

HE didn't bowl in the first test at all

Survived being the operative word, he is not an all rounder or a batsman as yet.

All rounders take wickets and he is struggling in that area on a turner, should have done better.

This kid is nothing more than a work in progress atm.

Bowling O M R W Econ
GP Swann 44 10 105 2 2.38
AC Agar 35 9 82 2 2.34

 

[Twizzle]

Oh right...so I instantly stop being an all rounder based if I don't bowl for one match. Makes sense

one match ?

you dont watch much cricket do you Moffo ?

Bowling O M R W Econ
GP Swann 44 10 105 2 2.38
AC Agar 35 9 82 2 2.34

pretty much backs up what I said, or are you saying he is OK because Swan was shit as well ?

should have done much better on that pitch and so should Swan

 

[JW]

Overs Smiths bowled per innings so far in Test Cricket.

0
21
1
9
0
0
18
13
10
0
0
0
0
0

With 4 wickets @ 70.

All-rounder for sure.