Eels in the media

[Roadrunner]

Another lost coming up.
Hayne is not a fullback. (not fit, can't tackle one on one) He shouldn't be in the team. The whole structure of the team changes around him. It should be the other way round. He should try to fit into the team.

 

[hineyrulz]

Plus completely different infringements. The Penrith one was trying to save a try.

And was BS.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And yet from all reports Hayne will be fullback this weekend instead of wing. Is it only the “wrong decision” if BA doesn’t agree with you?

He said they'll be sharing the fullback role: https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2018/03/23/brad-arthur-talks-ahead-of-sharks-clash/

What do you think that means Hayne will be doing when he's not playing fullback?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

To assume is to make an ass of u and me. My assumption is that BA has seen the errors of his ways and to his credit is addressing them.

He said we haven't changed anything: https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2018/03/23/brad-arthur-talks-ahead-of-sharks-clash/

We have a number of players who can play a number of positions, and that hasn't changed. They have to play somewhere. Is one formation the 'right' decision and all others 'wrong'? If you think so it means you don't understand the role played by randomness. You also don't get that all options carry some risk.

By your logic above then you have to assume Hayne will perform better at fullback and French will perform better on the wing. Can we look forward to the ending of your constant Hayne to the wing agenda?

Hayne will be spending time at wing this week instead of centre. He will also spend some time at fullback, just like he has done since the Knights trial.

Do you accept that Hayne (and probably French) don't have the work rate for 80 minutes at fullback, or do you still advocate sticking our best player at fullback for 80 minutes despite his limitations? Did you also want Radradra at fullback?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Apparently coaches don't make selection mistakes.

Do punters make mistakes (other than the decision to punt in the first place)? Or do they look at the odds and try to work them in their favour? Were the bookies wrong for offering $1.75 for the Sea Eagles? Does hindsight mean they should've only offered $1.01? Or not taken bets at all?

I don't think you understand how things work.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Another lost coming up.
Hayne is not a fullback. (not fit, can't tackle one on one) He shouldn't be in the team. The whole structure of the team changes around him. It should be the other way round. He should try to fit into the team.

He has strengths and weaknesses that either limit him or waste him at every position. He is a difficult player to fit into a team, but he is probably our best attacking player. We need to get the ball in his hands.

 

[Noise]

Do punters make mistakes (other than the decision to punt in the first place)? Or do they look at the odds and try to work them in their favour? Were the bookies wrong for offering $1.75 for the Sea Eagles? Does hindsight mean they should've only offered $1.01? Or not taken bets at all?

I don't think you understand how things work.

Yes punters make mistakes.

I don't think you understand how things work. Coaches can make mistakes, just like players make mistakes

 

[Happy MEel]

He said we haven't changed anything: https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2018/03/23/brad-arthur-talks-ahead-of-sharks-clash/

We have a number of players who can play a number of positions, and that hasn't changed. They have to play somewhere. Is one formation the 'right' decision and all others 'wrong'? If you think so it means you don't understand the role played by randomness. You also don't get that all options carry some risk.

Hayne will be spending time at wing this week instead of centre. He will also spend some time at fullback, just like he has done since the Knights trial.

Do you accept that Hayne (and probably French) don't have the work rate for 80 minutes at fullback, or do you still advocate sticking our best player at fullback for 80 minutes despite his limitations? Did you also want Radradra at fullback?

Yet Norman said this yesterday:
"Haynesy has had a couple of games now so I'd expect him to play the full 80 minutes there and do a job for us,"

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-set-to-deploy-hayne-at-fullback-20180322-p4z5ni.html

I don’t think he’s smart enough to play smoke and mirrors, whereas BA is certainly capable and keen to throw the media and Sharks off.

I used the word “wrong” because you brought it up in another post. I completely accept that there were reasons for BA’s decisions in rounds 1 and 2. I also think the rationale for the alternatives far outweigh them.

 

[Noise]

double

 

[Noise]

He said we haven't changed anything: https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2018/03/23/brad-arthur-talks-ahead-of-sharks-clash/

We have a number of players who can play a number of positions, and that hasn't changed. They have to play somewhere. Is one formation the 'right' decision and all others 'wrong'? If you think so it means you don't understand the role played by randomness. You also don't get that all options carry some risk.

Hayne will be spending time at wing this week instead of centre. He will also spend some time at fullback, just like he has done since the Knights trial.

Do you accept that Hayne (and probably French) don't have the work rate for 80 minutes at fullback, or do you still advocate sticking our best player at fullback for 80 minutes despite his limitations? Did you also want Radradra at fullback?

So are there any other teams who have fullbacks that don't have the work rate for 80 minutes? Or is it just us?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes punters make mistakes.

But they know the odds. Their job is just to guess which odds represent better value. Whether they win or lose nobody knows until the result comes in. Were the Cowboys no chance of winning last night? Was Melbourne no chance of beating the Tigers the week before? And if so, what kind of genius could have known in advance?.

I don't think you understand how things work. Coaches can make mistakes, just like players make mistakes

I'm sure they make mistakes, but those mistakes would never be as simple as the kind of shit discussed by idiots on the internet, like not knowing which positions a player can play.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yet Norman said this yesterday:
"Haynesy has had a couple of games now so I'd expect him to play the full 80 minutes there and do a job for us,"

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-set-to-deploy-hayne-at-fullback-20180322-p4z5ni.html

I don’t think he’s smart enough to play smoke and mirrors, whereas BA is certainly capable and keen to throw the media and Sharks off.

I guess we'll see on Saturday.

I used the word “wrong” because you brought it up in another post. I completely accept that there were reasons for BA’s decisions in rounds 1 and 2. I also think the rationale for the alternatives far outweigh them.

If they outweighed them then Arthur would have run with the alternatives. Or do you know better than him?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So are there any other teams who have fullbacks that don't have the work rate for 80 minutes? Or is it just us?

It's like anything - any player can play 80 minutes if he drops his work rate. The question is whether a reduced work rate from that player helps or hurts the team. But all the top teams have hard working fullbacks rather than some big outside back they are trying to get more involved. It's a desperation move used by weaker teams.

 

[Happy MEel]

If they outweighed them then Arthur would have run with the alternatives. Or do you know better than him?

What a silly comment.....of course I do!!

 

[Noise]

It's like anything - any player can play 80 minutes if he drops his work rate. The question is whether a reduced work rate from that player helps or hurts the team. But all the top teams have hard working fullbacks rather than some big outside back they are trying to get more involved. It's a desperation move used by weaker teams.

So Arthur is desperate now? After 2 rounds? But he never made one selection error in the first 2 rounds....ok

 

[Happy MEel]

But I seriously believe the side with the changes a few of us have proposed would have been stronger in round 1 at least.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So Arthur is desperate now? After 2 rounds? But he never made one selection error in the first 2 rounds....ok

If Hayne plays 80 minutes at fullback then it is a desperation move, but then after the attitude we've shown since leading Penrith by three tries it would be understandable if he is feeling desperate. I reckon there's definitely an issue within the group.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

But I seriously believe the side with the changes a few of us have proposed would have been stronger in round 1 at least.

I would've preferred not losing Mannah, Alvaro and Brown all at the same time, but I don't think it was Arthur's intent. I think his hand was forced.

But Brown has had a sit down early in both games this year after finishing 2017 playing 80 minutes every week. Is this the new normal, or just the heat forcing us to modify our gameplan in early rounds?

 

[Gazzamatta]

Eels are being trained and approaching the season like a Prize Fighter. You win the fight in the final rounds. Condition will build as will form to allow us to peak at the right time. No point peaking early. Players being rested and given shorter game time reflects this strategy. As does Gutho being given extra time off. Kenny rested early and Beau given last week off.
Convincing or clutching at straws. You decide.

 

[parra pete]

After two losses,some are prepared to write the team off....!!!!
I'm not one of them..Just sayin'