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Noise

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That’s a very good point. 4 “leaders” in the team chose to holiday with Moses after the season...not the kind of thing you would do if you thought he was an arrogant little prick who rubbed people up the wrong way.

Possibly just 2 distinct ‘groups’ in the team. The 4 you mentioned plus Moses then the group with Norman /, Taka, and others???
 

Happy MEel

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It might not be Jackson Hastings bad, but it doesn't have to be to create significant disruption in performance. And even Hastings had supporters in the team. I reckon Moses probably isn't a f**kwit most of the time, but during games he carries on like a pork chop.
Yep I reckon this would be close to the mark. If that is the case then the playing group need to take a good hard look at themselves if this kind of personality is so “divisive”. I can understand it if a bloke is a merkin both on and off the field, but I’ve found on-field porkchops are just that way because they’re overly competitive - which isn’t such a bad thing. In my experience, they often carry on because they’re team mates aren’t putting in as much effort as they are. It just looks particularly bad when the bloke who is putting in effort is performing like a busted arse.
 

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2018 Review: Parramatta Eels
Eelementary | October 15 2018 3:56PM


"Where the bloody hell are ya?"


Riding high, fresh off a Top 4 finish in 2017, the Parramatta club expected big things from season 2018.

Despite the loss of one Fijian superstar in Semi Radradra, the Eels managed to bring home one of their favourite sons in Jarryd Hayne, and the line-up remained mostly unchanged.

Thus, the stage was set for a strong performance - or so it was thought.

Season 2018 began with a dominant first-half display, having Penrith on the ropes 14-4 by half-time, demonstrating crisp attacking play, energetic and aggressive defence, and composure.

After half-time, Penrith turned up the pressure - and the Eels crumbled. Penrith rallied to win 24-14, and the Eels did not physically, or mentally recover, until round 7, going on to lose the first 6 consecutive rounds (including a 54-nil thumping at the hands of Manly in round 2), before snapping their losing streak by exacting revenge on Manly, defeating them 44-10.

From this point forward, Parramatta only won a further 5 games for the remainder of the season, for a grand total of 6 wins out of 24 games, to finish dead last on the ladder.

A mini-revival threated between rounds 7 and 8, when the Eels defeated the Sea Eagles, and the Tigers, in consecutive weeks - but it was not to be.

A procession of losses throughout the season by 10 points or less (most of them due to goal-kicking; in many of those losses, the Eels scored the same number of tries as their opposition, but either missed some conversions, or gifted their opponents penalty kicks at goal, which, in season 2018, turned out to be a sure-fire way to lose a game) broke the camel's back, and the Eels limped into the end of regular season footy by conceding 40 points in the last two rounds.

Turning points
The good
In such a lopsided, negative season, there were not really any good turning points.

The closest thing to a good turning point in season 2018 for the Eels would probably be the round 15 loss to the Rabbitohs, where the Eels lost 42-24 - after that defeat, they: lost to the Dragons 20-18 right on the full-time siren, lost 18-16 to the Knights, defeated the Bulldogs 14-8, lost to the Bunnies 26-20, and defeated the Titans 28-12. It seemed to signal a resurgence of competitive form, of sorts.

The bad
Half-time in round 1.

The first half against Penrith saw the Eels pick up where they left off, using aggressive, mobile forwards to wear out their opponents in blistering conditions. The Eels' attack was smooth, and composed (despite the loss of halfback Mitchell Moses early on to concussion).

But after half-time, the tide inexplicably shifted, and the Eels were not able to recover - and it set the tone for the rest of 2018.

What worked
Playing captain Clinton Gutherson in the centres, and Jarryd Hayne at fullback, reaped some benefits. Gutherson's defence, enthusiasm, and energy were big boosts out wide, and once Hayne was completely recovered from his early season malaise, he showed glimpses of his best form.

What didn't
Simply put, in this reviewer's opinion, the biggest issues in 2018 came from the Eels' 6 and 7.

For reasons only the players themselves, and their coaches and teammates, will ever know, they were unable to gel, and their consistency was well below par.

The Eels' forward pack and hooking options bore the brunt of a lot of criticism in 2018, yet the Eels lost 11 games in season 2018 by 10 points or less, and were continually able to make enough of their attacking opportunities to set raids in opposition 20 metre zones.

Unfortunately, Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman seemed devoid of ideas, and were seemingly unable to create any opportunities, aside from forcing goal-line dropouts.

Best players
Daniel Alvaro, before injury ruined his season, was a phenomenal performer - he finished the season as the Eels' top tackler, with 748 tackles (despite having his season cut short through injury).

He also regularly punched out 100m a game, and played big minutes.

Disappointing players
Mitchell Moses. For whatever the reason, Moses' play in 2018 regressed - opting more for highlight reel plays than taking the more composed play on offer, missing simple kicks at goal, and generally, not directing the team around like he did in 2017.

Rookies
Marata Niukore, Jaeman Salmon, and Reed Mahoney all made their debuts in 2018, and all three kids were solid, but unspectacular.

Of the lot, Mahoney showed the most promise, showing strong, aggressive defence at hooker, and a crisp passing game to his halves.

Niukore and Salmon proved to be serviceable NRL players, but having played in more challenging positions, will likely take longer to develop at this level.

Feeder club round-up
Parramatta's Intrust Super Premiership side, the Wentworthville Magpies, finished in 10th position. Their inconsistency was their downfall - the side was being changed around constantly, and the results showed on the field. First grade signing Kane Evans spent the majority of the season at Wentworthville, struggling for form and fitness in the early season.

In response to a club-wide review, the Eels' agreement with Wentworthville will conclude at the end of next season, with the Parramatta club taking the reins of the ISP side from 2020.

Meanwhile, the Eels' Under 20's Jersey Flegg Cup side finished sixth and were eliminated in the first week of the finals by arch-rivals Canterbury.

Looking ahead
Truthfully, there is nowhere to go from here but up - when you reach rock-bottom, any slight improvement is still an improvement.

The Eels have recruited intelligently for 2019, adding Blake Ferguson, Junior Paulo, Shaun Lane, and Maika Sivo.

Lane should add some line-breaking ability, and attacking threat, to an otherwise uninspiring Eels pack; Paulo will add some brute power; and Ferguson was 2018's leading metre-eater, and was in the top 5 for tackle breaks.

Maika Sivo is an interesting, and exciting prospect - listed at 192cm and 103kg, his highlight reels show a very similar running style to a certain Fijian now-rugby superstar, and his blistering pace, and raw power, may just be a benefit to the Eels in 2019.

With a host of fresh faces, the disappointment of a disastrous 2018 campaign, and shrewd signings (which targeted some of the Eels' biggest weaknesses in 2018), an improvement should be a no-brainer - a Top 8 finish should be achievable.

2019 potential lineup
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Blake Ferguson
3. Clint Gutherson (C)
4. Michael Jennings
5. George Jennings
6. Corey Norman
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Daniel Alvaro
9. Kaysa Pritchard
10. Junior Paulo
11. Manu Ma'u
12. Shaun Lane
13. Nathan Brown

14. Reed Mahoney
15. Peni Terepo
16. Tepai Moeroa
17. Tim Mannah (C)

https://leagueunlimited.com/news/32661-2018-review-parramatta-eels/
 
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Eelogical

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2018 Review: Parramatta Eels
Eelementary | October 15 2018 3:56PM


"Where the bloody hell are ya?"


Riding high, fresh off a Top 4 finish in 2017, the Parramatta club expected big things from season 2018.

Despite the loss of one Fijian superstar in Semi Radradra, the Eels managed to bring home one of their favourite sons in Jarryd Hayne, and the line-up remained mostly unchanged.

Thus, the stage was set for a strong performance - or so it was thought.

Season 2018 began with a dominant first-half display, having Penrith on the ropes 14-4 by half-time, demonstrating crisp attacking play, energetic and aggressive defence, and composure.

After half-time, Penrith turned up the pressure - and the Eels crumbled. Penrith rallied to win 24-14, and the Eels did not physically, or mentally recover, until round 7, going on to lose the first 6 consecutive rounds (including a 54-nil thumping at the hands of Manly in round 2), before snapping their losing streak by exacting revenge on Manly, defeating them 44-10.

From this point forward, Parramatta only won a further 5 games for the remainder of the season, for a grand total of 6 wins out of 24 games, to finish dead last on the ladder.

A mini-revival threated between rounds 7 and 8, when the Eels defeated the Sea Eagles, and the Tigers, in consecutive weeks - but it was not to be.

A procession of losses throughout the season by 10 points or less (most of them due to goal-kicking; in many of those losses, the Eels scored the same number of tries as their opposition, but either missed some conversions, or gifted their opponents penalty kicks at goal, which, in season 2018, turned out to be a sure-fire way to lose a game) broke the camel's back, and the Eels limped into the end of regular season footy by conceding 40 points in the last two rounds.

Turning points
The good
In such a lopsided, negative season, there were not really any good turning points.

The closest thing to a good turning point in season 2018 for the Eels would probably be the round 15 loss to the Rabbitohs, where the Eels lost 42-24 - after that defeat, they: lost to the Dragons 20-18 right on the full-time siren, lost 18-16 to the Knights, defeated the Bulldogs 14-8, lost to the Bunnies 26-20, and defeated the Titans 28-12. It seemed to signal a resurgence of competitive form, of sorts.

The bad
Half-time in round 1.

The first half against Penrith saw the Eels pick up where they left off, using aggressive, mobile forwards to wear out their opponents in blistering conditions. The Eels' attack was smooth, and composed (despite the loss of halfback Mitchell Moses early on to concussion).

But after half-time, the tide inexplicably shifted, and the Eels were not able to recover - and it set the tone for the rest of 2018.

What worked
Playing captain Clinton Gutherson in the centres, and Jarryd Hayne at fullback, reaped some benefits. Gutherson's defence, enthusiasm, and energy were big boosts out wide, and once Hayne was completely recovered from his early season malaise, he showed glimpses of his best form.

What didn't
Simply put, in this reviewer's opinion, the biggest issues in 2018 came from the Eels' 6 and 7.

For reasons only the players themselves, and their coaches and teammates, will ever know, they were unable to gel, and their consistency was well below par.

The Eels' forward pack and hooking options bore the brunt of a lot of criticism in 2018, yet the Eels lost 11 games in season 2018 by 10 points or less, and were continually able to make enough of their attacking opportunities to set raids in opposition 20 metre zones.

Unfortunately, Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman seemed devoid of ideas, and were seemingly unable to create any opportunities, aside from forcing goal-line dropouts.

Best players
Daniel Alvaro, before injury ruined his season, was a phenomenal performer - he finished the season as the Eels' top tackler, with 748 tackles (despite having his season cut short through injury).

He also regularly punched out 100m a game, and played big minutes.

Disappointing players
Mitchell Moses. For whatever the reason, Moses' play in 2018 regressed - opting more for highlight reel plays than taking the more composed play on offer, missing simple kicks at goal, and generally, not directing the team around like he did in 2017.

Rookies
Marata Niukore, Jaeman Salmon, and Reed Mahoney all made their debuts in 2018, and all three kids were solid, but unspectacular.

Of the lot, Mahoney showed the most promise, showing strong, aggressive defence at hooker, and a crisp passing game to his halves.

Niukore and Salmon proved to be serviceable NRL players, but having played in more challenging positions, will likely take longer to develop at this level.

Feeder club round-up
Parramatta's Intrust Super Premiership side, the Wentworthville Magpies, finished in 10th position. Their inconsistency was their downfall - the side was being changed around constantly, and the results showed on the field. First grade signing Kane Evans spent the majority of the season at Wentworthville, struggling for form and fitness in the early season.

In response to a club-wide review, the Eels' agreement with Wentworthville will conclude at the end of next season, with the Parramatta club taking the reins of the ISP side from 2020.

Meanwhile, the Eels' Under 20's Jersey Flegg Cup side finished sixth and were eliminated in the first week of the finals by arch-rivals Canterbury.

Looking ahead
Truthfully, there is nowhere to go from here but up - when you reach rock-bottom, any slight improvement is still an improvement.

The Eels have recruited intelligently for 2019, adding Blake Ferguson, Junior Paulo, Shaun Lane, and Maika Sivo.

Lane should add some line-breaking ability, and attacking threat, to an otherwise uninspiring Eels pack; Paulo will add some brute power; and Ferguson was 2018's leading metre-eater, and was in the top 5 for tackle breaks.

Maika Sivo is an interesting, and exciting prospect - listed at 192cm and 103kg, his highlight reels show a very similar running style to a certain Fijian now-rugby superstar, and his blistering pace, and raw power, may just be a benefit to the Eels in 2019.

With a host of fresh faces, the disappointment of a disastrous 2018 campaign, and shrewd signings (which targeted some of the Eels' biggest weaknesses in 2018), an improvement should be a no-brainer - a Top 8 finish should be achievable.

2019 potential lineup
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Blake Ferguson
3. Clint Gutherson (C)
4. Michael Jennings
5. George Jennings
6. Corey Norman
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Daniel Alvaro
9. Kaysa Pritchard
10. Joseph Paulo
11. Manu Ma'u
12. Shaun Lane
13. Nathan Brown

14. Reed Mahoney
15. Peni Terepo
16. Tepai Moeroa
17. Tim Mannah (C)

https://leagueunlimited.com/news/32661-2018-review-parramatta-eels/
Looks borderline top 8. However, it will all start falling apart once Pritchard trips over his loosely tied bootlaces or they take vanity mirrors out of the dressing room. I'm over excited!!!
 

Happy MEel

First Grade
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Great write up Eele!! It’s a decent side on paper. Having one Jarryd Hayne at fullback makes us an infinitely better attacking side than what we put on the park this year.

We need to get this done because it looks more like a bottom 4 side with French there instead.

Wouldn’t it be nice to offload both French and Jennings, bring the fish into the centres and bring in a quality prop and either a hooker (Seggy?) or perhaps Peachy (to play in the centres and have the fish on the bench), to replace Kaysa and Mannah/Peni in that side.

That would make us very competitive.

Wishful thinking:

1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Blake Ferguson
3. Clint Gutherson (C)
4. Tyrone Peachey
5. George Jennings
6. Corey Norman
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Daniel Alvaro
9. Reed Mahoney
10. Junior Paulo
11. Manu Ma'u
12. Shaun Lane
13. Nathan Brown

14. Jaeman Salmon
15. Peni Terepo
16. Tepai Moeroa
17. Quality prop signing
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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Great write up Eele!! It’s a decent side on paper. Having one Jarryd Hayne at fullback makes us an infinitely better attacking side than what we put on the park this year.

We need to get this done because it looks more like a bottom 4 side with French there instead.

Wouldn’t it be nice to offload both French and Jennings, bring the fish into the centres and bring in a quality prop and either a hooker (Seggy?) or perhaps Peachy (to play in the centres and have the fish on the bench), to replace Kaysa and Mannah/Peni in that side.

That would make us very competitive.

Wishful thinking:

1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Blake Ferguson
3. Clint Gutherson (C)
4. Tyrone Peachey
5. George Jennings
6. Corey Norman
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Daniel Alvaro
9. Reed Mahoney
10. Junior Paulo
11. Manu Ma'u
12. Shaun Lane
13. Nathan Brown

14. Jaeman Salmon
15. Peni Terepo
16. Tepai Moeroa
17. Quality prop signing

Swap Jaeman and Peachey. Tyrone is ordinary over an 80 minute period but outstanding in a 20 minute burst.
 

Happy MEel

First Grade
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Swap Jaeman and Peachey. Tyrone is ordinary over an 80 minute period but outstanding in a 20 minute burst.
That could work too but I think playing Peachey in the centres and then a stint at hooker to give Reed a break if he needs it would work. I don’t think you get enough value for Peachey’s asking price by playing him for less than half a game.
 

Bolgeel

Juniors
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Great write up Eele!! It’s a decent side on paper. Having one Jarryd Hayne at fullback makes us an infinitely better attacking side than what we put on the park this year.

We need to get this done because it looks more like a bottom 4 side with French there instead.

Wouldn’t it be nice to offload both French and Jennings, bring the fish into the centres and bring in a quality prop and either a hooker (Seggy?) or perhaps Peachy (to play in the centres and have the fish on the bench), to replace Kaysa and Mannah/Peni in that side.

That would make us very competitive.

Wishful thinking:

1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Blake Ferguson
3. Clint Gutherson (C)
4. Tyrone Peachey
5. George Jennings
6. Corey Norman
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Daniel Alvaro
9. Reed Mahoney
10. Junior Paulo
11. Manu Ma'u
12. Shaun Lane
13. Nathan Brown

14. Jaeman Salmon
15. Peni Terepo
16. Tepai Moeroa
17. Quality prop signing
Good squad :thumbsup:
 

Twizzle

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Agree that Peachey is great in a short stint but 80min of Peachey centre is still better than 80min of Salmon at centre.

given their ages that's a pretty unfair comparison

wait till Salmon is Peachy's age (27) then compare them
 

Obscene Assassin

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That could work too but I think playing Peachey in the centres and then a stint at hooker to give Reed a break if he needs it would work. I don’t think you get enough value for Peachey’s asking price by playing him for less than half a game.

I don't think you're gonna get value out of Peachey now that he's an origin player regardless of position. But if you were to play him like you suggest he's open to making more mistakes than he does now playing only one position for 80 minutes.

For mine he's at his best coming in for a short burst, like Austin did against canterbury last season.
 

Happy MEel

First Grade
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I don't think you're gonna get value out of Peachey now that he's an origin player regardless of position. But if you were to play him like you suggest he's open to making more mistakes than he does now playing only one position for 80 minutes.

For mine he's at his best coming in for a short burst, like Austin did against canterbury last season.
What mistakes are you referring to? Here is a list of the top 50 players in the NRL in 2018 for total and average errors and Peachey doesn’t feature. He also doesn’t feature in the missed tackles list.

https://www.nrl.com/stats/players?competition=111&season=2018&stat=37

Edit: he does give plenty of penalties away.
 

Twizzle

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well given that next season is not here yet, the statement remains pertinent

he was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread at the beginning of this year but after seeing him play a few games I'm yet to be impressed

we'll have to wait and see how he goes
 

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