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Poupou Escobar

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The President has had an enormous influence on both of those events.
He has been blocked by state governments in both. His opponents actively exacerbated both situations to torpedo his presidency after it was clear he would be re-elected. So you could blame him for having opponents in an election year, but that would've been the case for any president.
 
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Gary Gutful

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He has been blocked by state governments in both.
I know that. It’s evidence that he doesn’t get his way all the time but I still believe what I said.

There is so much fear and anger in the population regarding who is President and the country is so divided that I think it is dangerous to have a leader with significant influence. It’s self-perpuating and seems a little out of control.

Too much governance has it’s problems as well, but I’d take that over massive change and fear every time the opposition gets into power. Stability is underrated.
 

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I know that. It’s evidence that he doesn’t get his way all the time but I still believe what I said.

There is so much fear and anger in the population regarding who is President and the country is so divided that I think it is dangerous to have a leader with significant influence. It’s self-perpuating and seems a little out of control.

Too much governance has it’s problems as well, but I’d take that over massive change and fear every time the opposition gets into power. Stability is underrated.
The majority of this fear is due to how much power merkins erroneously think the president has. The only way to combat this is to educate the silly pricks that POTUS isn't some omnipotent god-king. But then they would be faced with the realisation that problems are bigger than the power of one person to solve. People obsessed with institutional scapegoats would have to accept that sacking one person won't solve anything. That's as true of national politics as it is of NRL clubs.
 
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You’ve picked a favourite. I think they are both so deplorable that I can’t pick either of them.

I don’t trust them and can also consume media knowing where their biases lie and assess accordingly.

Sure, there are large parts of the media that are against Trump but I think he’s a bit of a snowflake. There have been countless times where he has been asked legitimate questions that an elected official has a duty to answer and he pulls the “media is out to get me” line.

The best insight we’ve seen was his interview with Jonathan Swan who was one of the few people who was able to get him to respond because of his calm and calculated approach. Anyone who watches that and thinks he is a leader who is in control is kidding themselves.

Also, you should be smarter than to just willingly believe Trump’s assertions that he is the purveyor of truth and the media are lying. That’s Propaganda 101 and we’ve seen countless dictators use the same tactics over time.

If you can believe that Biden is dodgy (which he is) then it isn’t hard to see that Trump is also dodgy.

The only hope in the future for the US is to consider winding back the power that the President has. There is genuine fear and panic amongst the population all because of who might get in and what they might do. Trump fans think it’s the end of the world if Biden gets and vice versa. It shouldn’t f**k with people’s lives like that and is the sign of an unhealthy democracy.

See I could take what you assert about Trump seriously if you could show a real example of his CORRUPTION, not his loud mouth crap or his obnoxious behaviour. That means FA in the real scheme of things as far as food on the table for people goes. The raising of our standard of living is what really matters to people. Not how Trump offended lefties because he is so mean. Or that he sleeps with women that throw themselves at him or that he pays for sex or that he even propositions women. Show me a powerful person that doesn't take full advantage of being a powerful person when it comes to sex. Hell I know I would be ploughing whoever I could If I had that type of opportunity. I'm just being honest. I might start off saying no, no, no I shouldn't, but in the end I will break I know I would. I love beautiful women. Most of us do. Trump is no different.

However no matter what you say, you can't prove that Trump is CORRUPT and the simple fact of how I know that is that 99% of the MSM and every Democrat and even some Republicans would have been on it like a flash and nailed his arse to the wall. But like I said years of parliamentary and Special Counsel Investigations didn't find anything. So what now I am to believe you know something that the rest of the world doesn't?

Whereas when it comes to Biden, well the proof is unfolding as we speak. It is there for anyone who reads the emails, text or sees the photos or videos. My prediction is that if Biden does win, he will try to Pardon himself, justifying it by saying that no sitting President can be convicted and taken to prison and the majority of the MSM will try to go along with that. Whether he can get away with that will depend on how much the American citizens let them all get away with.

My prediction if it goes down that way is that Harris will end up being sworn in as President and the shit will then really hit the fan.

Trump isn't perfect, but he isn't a globalist. That at this point in time is enough for me.
 

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See I could take what you assert about Trump seriously if you could show a real example of his CORRUPTION, not his loud mouth crap or his obnoxious behaviour. That means FA in the real scheme of things as far as food on the table for people goes. The raising of our standard of living is what really matters to people. Not how Trump offended lefties because he is so mean. Or that he sleeps with women that throw themselves at him or that he pays for sex or that he even propositions women. Show me a powerful person that doesn't take full advantage of being a powerful person when it comes to sex. Hell I know I would be ploughing whoever I could If I had that type of opportunity. I'm just being honest. I might start off saying no, no, no I shouldn't, but in the end I will break I know I would. I love beautiful women. Most of us do. Trump is no different.

However no matter what you say, you can't prove that Trump is CORRUPT and the simple fact of how I know that is that 99% of the MSM and every Democrat and even some Republicans would have been on it like a flash and nailed his arse to the wall. But like I said years of parliamentary and Special Counsel Investigations didn't find anything. So what now I am to believe you know something that the rest of the world doesn't?

Whereas when it comes to Biden, well the proof is unfolding as we speak. It is there for anyone who reads the emails, text or sees the photos or videos. My prediction is that if Biden does win, he will try to Pardon himself, justifying it by saying that no sitting President can be convicted and taken to prison and the majority of the MSM will try to go along with that. Whether he can get away with that will depend on how much the American citizens let them all get away with.

My prediction if it goes down that way is that Harris will end up being sworn in as President and the shit will then really hit the fan.

Trump isn't perfect, but he isn't a globalist. That at this point in time is enough for me.
There is no point providing you with evidence and arguments because you’ll believe anything Trump tells you to.

That’s fine and that’s your prerogative, but what you think is true is almost certainly not. With so much bullshit flying around from all sides I’m suspicious of anyone who is so certain about one side of the debate.
 

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Yeah...anyone who thinks Trump is a dick, loves Biden. How did you come up with that one?

I reckon if you polled most people in Aus they would think that they are both f**king imbeciles. They are embarrassing mate. The US is going down the f**king toilet.
I disagree.

I reckon most aussies know f**k all about Biden. Only whatever small bits MSM tell them, which is mostly nothing except that he is old and was Obamas sidekick.

As opposed to the ridicule Trump endlessly gets here. Sure its warranted, but i am amazed how much people deeply care so much to hate him so deeply.
 

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The point is if inner city clubs like the Storm and Roosters can't help Jaguar or Zurich sell their products why would we? The exception is the Cowboys, who evidently have a bit of traction with the Hilux buying demographic. Eels fans are more the useless whiny merkin demographic, which is why we get dodgy real estate developers and ambulance chasers sponsoring us. What you seem to want, without realising it, is for the club to cater more to people like Gronk, and less to people like you. Be careful what you wish for.
I wonder how much Toyota give the Cowboys? ... Compared to say what Aland give us?
 

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I disagree.

I reckon most aussies know f**k all about Biden. Only whatever small bits MSM tell them, which is mostly nothing except that he is old and was Obamas sidekick.

As opposed to the ridicule Trump endlessly gets here. Sure its warranted, but i am amazed how much people deeply care so much to hate him so deeply.
That’s a fair point mate. Maybe I was giving Australians too much credit.
 

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That’s a fair point mate. Maybe I was giving Australians too much credit.
Just as there is a sizeable number of merkins voting for Biden who are actually just voting against Trump, I'd say the majority of Trump voters are in reality only voting against the Democrats. It's why media criticism of Trump doesn't stick.
 

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My prediction if it goes down that way is that Harris will end up being sworn in as President and the shit will then really hit the fan.

Why will shit hit the fan ? Because Biden is a old guy and people didn’t know that or because Harris is not who she appears ?
 

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