Eels in the media

[emjaycee]

In the 13s-16s, the junior leagues are jointly run - all divisions have teams from each junior league

it’s that simple. It has been administered this way for the last two seasons.

However, there is genuine unrest and discontent form all sides - I can see the theoretical benefits but I do know of a scenario playing out in at least one age group where two excellent div 1 players in one club want to go to another club in the other junior league to play in a stronger team- which would enhance rep prospects of those kids in the other junior league

at rep level we each pick our own squads from “our” clubs for what it’s worth.

Thanks.

 

[TheRam]

In the 13s-16s, the junior leagues are jointly run - all divisions have teams from each junior league

it’s that simple. It has been administered this way for the last two seasons.

However, there is genuine unrest and discontent form all sides - I can see the theoretical benefits but I do know of a scenario playing out in at least one age group where two excellent div 1 players in one club want to go to another club in the other junior league to play in a stronger team- which would enhance rep prospects of those kids in the other junior league

at rep level we each pick our own squads from “our” clubs for what it’s worth.

What would the theoretical benefits be mate in your opinion?

 

[Eelementary]

Phil Gould, General Manager of the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs pays us a visit

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Why are the Bulldogs promoting themselves in Parramatta territory?

Most likely because Parramatta aren't promoting themselves...

 

[Eelementary]

Yes they did- and after two years I am yet to strike a parent or volunteer on either side who is thrilled with it!

Well, stop going around hitting people, then, ffs!

 

[emjaycee]

What would the theoretical benefits be mate in your opinion?

After getting @Legal Eel's reply (thanks again), I did some research and it seems that this was a NSWRL approach to join junior leagues into "conferences".

Mon 19 Dec 2016, 04:30 PM

The NSWRL has announced a game-changing junior league conference system, to ensure higher quality and sustainable competitions at the grass roots level.​

With a currently disjointed and disorganised junior Rugby League landscape, the new system will consolidate smaller competitions into larger and stronger conferences, also allowing for more even and exciting competition. The make-up of this concept has been determined following extensive consultation with clubs and key stakeholders.

It appears that Parramatta and Canterbury junior leagues form the Central West Conference.
There are 11 competitons between U13's - U16's (2 or 3 divisions at each age), 2 under 18 competitions, and 1 each at U20 and Opens.

At the under 12's where still in respective junior districts, Parramatta Junior League has 20 teams (not clubs) across 3 divisions, and the Canterbury Junior League has 8 teams in total.

WHAT!!!?

Other than maybe saving a few pennies, I can't see where there is any justification or advantage for us as a club. Fu*k we are so freaking dumb. Short term gain(maybe) from long term massive pain.

Watch how they will just totally dominate the juniors and start to siphon the majority of the best kids into joining them in the higher levels.

We already have a hard time in attracting the best players to our club, now we have set ourselves up for our junior kids coming through to have mixed loyalties and feel that they belong and are part of one of our major competitors nursery and one of them.

My God can a club be run any stupider? Even the Tigers haven't gone down this route. We are officially now a club that doesn't want to win an NRL premiership and just considers itself a feeder club for junior footballers for the wider rugby league community.

You can't f**king serve two f**king masters FFS!!!!!!!

Can't make this sh*t up!

I'd say this post is probably an over-reaction to something that wasn't in our control as it seems the NSWRL used us to help save the Canterbury Junior League from collapsing with only 8 teams.

 

[IFR33K]

What would the theoretical benefits be mate in your opinion?

our club is at fault. The Canterbury district needs us more then we need them.

We have to many clubs stockpiling juniors.

for instance, you may have Cabramatta with 4 teams in under 12’s, yet a neighbouring club can barley field 1 under 12’s team. If u have 3 or 4 stockpiling players, who will they play?

if parramatta looks at spreading players across the district, there’d be no need to merge juniors.

 

[Legal Eel]

What would the theoretical benefits be mate in your opinion?

Theoretically the aim is to provide stronger opposition and varied opposition in each division - but however minimally this manifests, it is far outweighed by the issues

 

[T.S Quint]

Deleted - not relevant.

 

[emjaycee]

Deleted - not relevant.

That is very "cancel culture" of you.

 

[T.S Quint]

That is very "cancel culture" of you.

I triggered myself.

 

[T.S Quint]

Not a euphemism.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

at rep level we each pick our own squads from “our” clubs for what it’s worth.

What is the mechanism for preventing the Bulldogs (or any other NRL club) from poaching players from "our" junior clubs?

 

[Legal Eel]

What is the mechanism for preventing the Bulldogs (or any other NRL club) from poaching players from "our" junior clubs?

There is none at all - but to be fair, if the players aren’t contracted anyone can poach them

Whilst a kid is under 16, most stay in the system that will pick them as they don’t want to give up a rep jumper - but as they get really good the dollars come into it at about 16 and they can be swayed by anyone theoretically - unless contracted

 

[Legal Eel]

There is none at all - but to be fair, if the players aren’t contracted anyone can poach them

Whilst a kid is under 16, most stay in the system that will pick them as they don’t want to give up a rep jumper - but as they get really good the dollars come into it at about 16 and they can be swayed by anyone theoretically - unless contracted

The real issue is that it ceases to be poaching when they are in a joint junior league - it just becomes a hybrid style pathway and I’m not confident our guys have the gravitas or persuasion to match the ninja that is Phil gould

for goodness sake, the bloke somehow just got pangai junior to RETIRE and clean canterburys cap!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

There is none at all - but to be fair, if the players aren’t contracted anyone can poach them

Whilst a kid is under 16, most stay in the system that will pick them as they don’t want to give up a rep jumper - but as they get really good the dollars come into it at about 16 and they can be swayed by anyone theoretically - unless contracted

What are the legalities of minors breaking contracts?

 

[Legal Eel]

What are the legalities of minors breaking contracts?

Parents sign the contracts but I don’t think a club would be game to take a minor from court - would destroy the marketplace

 

[Noise]

The real issue is that it ceases to be poaching when they are in a joint junior league - it just becomes a hybrid style pathway and I’m not confident our guys have the gravitas or persuasion to match the ninja that is Phil gould

for goodness sake, the bloke somehow just got pangai junior to RETIRE and clean canterburys cap!

I’m sure MON is just as capable as Gus….

 

[T.S Quint]

The real issue is that it ceases to be poaching when they are in a joint junior league - it just becomes a hybrid style pathway and I’m not confident our guys have the gravitas or persuasion to match the ninja that is Phil gould

for goodness sake, the bloke somehow just got pangai junior to RETIRE and clean canterburys cap!

"Somehow".

Lol, money.
Somehow = paid him off with under the table money.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

"Somehow".

Lol, money.
Somehow = paid him off with under the table money.

Something like this. It's not an even playing field. Even where teams have similar resourcing, the one that is willing to bend or break the rules has a huge advantage. Our club has too long a history of internal backstabbing to think it can get away with anything. There are too many within the club and fanbase who want to see us fail (in the short term only, of course) to suit their agendas.

 

[T.S Quint]

Something like this. It's not an even playing field. Even where teams have similar resourcing, the one that is willing to bend or break the rules has a huge advantage. Our club has too long a history of internal backstabbing to think it can get away with anything. There are too many within the club and fanbase who want to see us fail (in the short term only, of course) to suit their agendas.

Whe you have stories coming out like James Maloney talking about his third party deals organsied by the Panthers, and Tino getting offered shares in a major sponsor's pub at Canterbury, but the NRL just looks the other way then you can get really disillusioned by it all.

Seems unless a major newspaper does an investigation and uncoveres all the evidence for the NRL (like they did with us in '16 and the Dogs in '02) then they choose to do nothing.