Eels in the media

[Poupou Escobar]

Also has Moses and Brown accepted their PO for 26 yet or are they going to wait as long as they can in 2025 to either accept them or not.. dragging it out causing the season to be derailed.

Would be a shame if they waited till May then decided against it..

Give the club 6-7 months before the pre season to get replacements.. How awesome

They are big money players. They will be in negations with us and other clubs from November, for bigger deals than they’re on. Why would they wait for their option deadline? If they wait too long the better offers will get pulled.

 

[the phantom menace]

It’s just logic. Everything costs money. Nothing is free, including player/club options. What sort of source would even exist for that?

DuH wHeRe Is YoUr SoUrCe FoR tHaT?!?1

 

[hineyrulz]

*wrong

Source???

 

[hineyrulz]

Also has Moses and Brown accepted their PO for 26 yet or are they going to wait as long as they can in 2025 to either accept them or not.. dragging it out causing the season to be derailed.

Would be a shame if they waited till May then decided against it..

Give the club 6-7 months before the pre season to get replacements.. How awesome

I’m sure this is what all the smart clubs do.

 

[Gronk]

It’s a bargaining chip that isn’t counted against the salary cap.

I think the player options to Dylan, Moses, Matto and Penisini simply does two things:-

1. Let's them know that the club values them long term, and
2. By mere fact that they have an option at the end of their contract term, brings them the table to talk about it.

What clubs like us a Storm, Raiders, Titans, Manly have done is gambled that their players will remain an elite and in demand sportsman for at least that part of their careers.

St George have a 7 called Hamish Stewart and whilst he has not played NRL as yet, is under contract until 2026 with a PO. I wonder what they were thinking ? My guess is that they wanted Stewart to sign until 2027+ however the manager said no. So the PO was offered as a sign of confidence and unanimity as they face new teams entering the NRL around that time.

 

[Gronk]

It’s pretty simple really - player options haven’t worked for us.

regardless of whether they work for other clubs or who else does them, they have proved problematic for us and have f**ked our cap, so we need to avoid them.

as a parallel, cheating the cap allowed the dogs and storm each to build squads that they could retain to win a comp within two years - we only built a squad that won spoons! For that reason cheating wasn’t beneficial to us and couldn’t be repeated, regardless of the success others experienced.

plain and simple, it has f**ked our cap so it has not been a successful strategy FOR PARRAMATTA

cue the Pou trolling logic, the Gronk stupidity and emjaycees blind defence…

The bolded bit. If I am stupid, then you must be able to extrapolate on this with significant detail.

Over to you. Your credibility is on the line.

 

[Legal Eel]

The bolded bit. If I am stupid, then you must be able to extrapolate on this with significant detail.

Over to you. Your credibility is on the line.

Its really simple - we have been unable to undertake proper cap management and forward planning on recruitment due to the constraints of player options on our cap.

Players like Sivo have been shopped for over a year but the player options limited our ability to get rid of him - and it has applied to others.

Players with options have frequently delayed the processes, meaning that the money has to be kept aside and we are hamstrung from negotiating with others.

As for credibility, if you can't understand any of this then whatever miniscule credibility you had is gone.

 

[Gronk]

Its really simple - we have been unable to undertake proper cap management and forward planning on recruitment due to the constraints of player options on our cap.

Players like Sivo have been shopped for over a year but the player options limited our ability to get rid of him - and it has applied to others.

Players with options have frequently delayed the processes, meaning that the money has to be kept aside and we are hamstrung from negotiating with others.

As for credibility, if you can't understand any of this then whatever miniscule credibility you had is gone.

Sivo has a MO, so that point is moot.

Put some meat on the bone, instead repeating rhetoric.

If you have specific examples, you need to front up

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Next year it’ll be Rylesy

Hopefully not. I don't want us to be a flash in the pan, if we can make 5 out of the next 6 finals series that'll be another good period

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The bolded bit. If I am stupid, then you must be able to extrapolate on this with significant detail.

Over to you. Your credibility is on the line.

It’s certainly drawing a long bow to say player options have f**ked our cap. We’ll have to wait and see what the 2026 squad looks like before determining the state of our cap that year.

 

[the phantom menace]

What clubs like us a Storm, Raiders, Titans, Manly have done is gambled that their players will remain an elite and in demand sportsman for at least that part of their careers.

This could well be true... gambling that they remain playing worthy of the current salary level offered in the player option year.

St George have a 7 called Hamish Stewart and whilst he has not played NRL as yet, is under contract until 2026 with a PO. I wonder what they were thinking ? My guess is that they wanted Stewart to sign until 2027+ however the manager said no.

But could it also be possible that all of our POs were offered on the same basis? that is that we wanted Brown, Moses etc for longer term, but they/their managers said no thanks?

No skin off their nose for us to sling a PO their way as a sign of our intent - as we have to budget for that option salary in our future cap anyway. But also it is no proof that the PO reduced the salary they were wanting/would have taken for the confirmed years of the contract either....

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hopefully not. I don't want us to be a flash in the pan, if we can make 5 out of the next 6 finals series that'll be another good period

The ‘average’ club should make the finals in 8 out of 17 seasons, so less than half the time. Given there’s a handful of super clubs that almost never miss the finals, the outlook for the rest of us isn’t so great. I think if we can make the finals two thirds of the time we are doing well.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This could well be true... gambling that they remain playing worthy of the current salary level offered in the player option year.

But could it also be possible that all of our POs were offered on the same basis? that is that we wanted Brown, Moses etc for longer term, but they/their managers said no thanks?

No skin off their nose for us to sling a PO their way as a sign of our intent - as we have to budget for that option salary in our future cap anyway. But also it is no proof that the PO reduced the salary they were wanting/would have taken for the confirmed years of the contract either....

The sign of our intent is wanting them to stay longer. The player option says nothing about our future intentions other than that we are happy for them to stay if they can find nothing else. It is a bargaining chip offered by us to them. It is worth money, like any insurance.

 

[the phantom menace]

The sign of our intent is wanting them to stay longer. The player option says nothing about our future intentions other than that we are happy for them to stay if they can find nothing else.

True. Happy for them to stay longer at the salary offered (and accepted by them) for the confirmed seasons.

It is a bargaining chip offered by us to them. It is worth money, like any insurance.

Not necessarily.

 

[Gronk]

After Origin heroics, Moses may return from injury for Kangaroos call

Mitchell Moses is out with a biceps injury – but his season is not done just yet.

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After Origin heroics, Moses may return from injury for Kangaroos call​

Mitchell Moses’ injury-plagued season may not be over with Australia coach Mal Meninga reaching out to the Parramatta halfback over his availability for the Test series at the end of the season.

Moses ruptured his biceps while helping NSW clinch a memorable Origin series at Suncorp Stadium in July.

The injury ruled him out of the remainder of the Eels’ forgettable season, but Moses has continued training and will be fit when the Kangaroos play their first Test against Tonga on October 18.

The NRL will confirm their Pacific Championships schedule on Friday, with the Kangaroos to play against Tonga and New Zealand in Brisbane and Christchurch respectively, ahead of the November 10 final at Parramatta’s CommBank Stadium.

With uncertainty surrounding Nathan Cleary, and whether he will require end-of-season shoulder surgery – and with Cameron Munster all but certain to undergo double hip surgery – Meninga has spoken with Moses

Mitchell Moses may still play this year.CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

At the very least, Moses will get the chance to press his green-and-gold claims in a Prime Minister’s XIII game against Papua New Guinea, which will be held after the NRL grand final.
The clash with the Kumuls will fall about three months after Moses’ injury. Brisbane skipper Adam Reynolds returned from the same injury in 11 weeks this year.
“Mitch will be back from injury before we play the internationals,” Meninga told this masthead.

“He deserves an opportunity if he’s available. I’ve had a good yarn to him, he’ll keep training, and he’s certainly keen to play.

“The PM’s will happen after the grand final, so we’ll probably need a camp with the guys who aren’t playing [finals football].

“He killed it in Origin, he was very influential. He’s no certainty to debut, but I like Mitch’s maturity, he has a great kicking game, and I just think he’s a smart player.”

Should Moses feature for Australia, it means incoming Eels coach Jason Ryles will have to wait until after Christmas to work with his most-important player.

Daly Cherry-Evans is now 35 and has been the Australian vice-captain in the past. He is leading a finals-bound Sea Eagles team with aplomb in 2024.

Meninga knows he will need to carry a backup playmaker in his 21-man squad. North Queensland’s Tom Dearden and St George Illawarra skipper Ben Hunt are halfback options, although Hunt is likely to feature regardless, provided he stays fit, because of his utility value.

“We got beaten 30-0 last year in the final against New Zealand, and that’s not going to happen again,” Meninga said.