Eels release Kieran Foran

Poorly. You avoided my differentiation between Edwards' and Tep's runs for run metres and their differing attacking effectiveness, which was your whole argument - runs for run metres is the sole measure of attacking onfield contribution.

Don't forget this doozy:
"You can tell the effectiveness of Scott's attack with one simple and very telling statistic - number of carries."

 

Two blokes can be 'comparable' without being equals.

 

There a 30 minute interview between Rothfield and Foran on the DT website. I can't work out how to post the link.

Firstly, the bloke loves a good lip smacking. Secondly, it's baffling that BA made him captain after he was booked into a mental health clinic before Christmas. And lastly, the merkin will be at the Bulldogs next year.

Not one thankyou to the club, fans or team mates that stood by him when he was at his worst.

 

Moeroa is a better attacking player than plenty of people. But he was less effective in the middle than Watmough, even though he was more effective than Scott.

Agreed. And we went downhill very quickly last year without Watmough. We might be doing the same thing right now without Scott, but we are without so many other key players that it's impossible to judge the cause.

 

It is indeed a small sample. And as I've already pointed out, Scott's absence has coincided with some other important absences, including a number of top 17 edge defenders. I think our defence in the middle hasn't been too shoddy, but our edge defence has been poor, plus our lack of key attackers has led to higher risk play, more turnovers, and therefore more pressure on our defence. I'm sure Scott would have improved things on the defensive side, but our attack has lost nothing without him.

 

No Scott, no win again.

But yeah, Watmough made more of an overall contribution, lol.

#spinituntilyouwinit

 

At their respective positions (edge forward) it is a massive indicator of importance and impact. Of course game changers like offloads, linebreaks, tries and their assists are very important when comparing edge forwards too. I find tackle breaks another telling stat (especially for forwards) and Edwards leads out pack (if not our team) in that statistic most weeks.

That's right.

 

Or Radradra, Jennings or Norman.

We lost a lot more games without Watmough.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ite-of-shooting-incident-20160730-gqhdxz.html

 

I can't see it listed... could you describe how/where the link from the DT appears on the screen?

 

Its is on the DT website.

 

Here ya go:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/vi...die---Buzz-s-full-interview-with-Kieran-Foran

 

Or Ma'u

 

Yeah I forgot him. Cheers

 

Thanks... I'm just not seeing it anywhere when I look at the DT website myself. Maybe it's been taken down?

 

Thanks, got it now *thumb emoticon*

 

So we were missing Radradra, Jennings, Ma'u and Norman. That's our entire left side. Not only is it our most dangerous attacking edge, but isn't it the defensive side that Mitch Moses attacks against?

 

Yes it is merkin. But we lost because Beau Scott.

 

I actually feel for the guy.

Diagnosis bipolar, weekly psychologist sessions, weekly skype psychiatrist sessions, daily medication etc.

Speaks openly about how bad things got for him, breakup of releationship from November, asking BA for help in December and doing a three week stint in a hospital clinic, child born and things still swirling around such that he attempts suicide by tablets in April, does another three week clinic stay in May.

He can only answer the questionsbuzz qasks him, so I don't care that he didn't mention our players - they've been his teammates for what seven months of a seven year plus career. Foran is obviously close to Brad Arthur, and as we've seen this season, BA is "the club" - why would Foran credit anyone else in our joint for the support?

Clearly isn't thinking about his next contract yet, sounds like he's come a long way reigning in his drinking, gambling, approach to depression, and management of his condition. So much came from the breakup of his long-term relationship, including 3 hour round trips to attend training, lack of sleep and it's impact on not being able to maintain things at a new club in the face of what was unfolding for him.

I wish the guy all the best, must be good to be able to address the rumours, and sounds like time away from league is the best outcome for all concerned.

 

You're having your usual strawman discussion.

Your original treatise was that Watmough made a better contribution to the team than Scott - not the reasons why Wests outscored us. Again, you've failed to construct an evidence base in support of your original choice of pre-determined agenda - chalk up another failed experiement in logic!